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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: amber embarrassed to the bone nursing home Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#23393887) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: floppy demanding state lettuce (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#48969813) |
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Date: May 21st, 2026 5:25 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#49893306) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Hilarious base love of her life Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Low-t Racy Dopamine Sandwich Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Hilarious base love of her life (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Low-t Racy Dopamine Sandwich They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Hilarious base love of her life read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Exhilarant Bat Shit Crazy Keepsake Machete Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#49065184) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: charcoal menage what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#48970037) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Curious chartreuse theater I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Exhilarant Bat Shit Crazy Keepsake Machete teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Appetizing self-centered foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Startling property clown i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Magical pocket flask Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: coiffed alcoholic deer antler jew really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Passionate International Law Enforcement Agency Halford It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: aquamarine shrine coffee pot it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Passionate International Law Enforcement Agency Halford Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: coiffed alcoholic deer antler jew actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Rough-skinned partner faggot firefighter 13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails
you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Rough-skinned partner faggot firefighter "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2в#49838410) |