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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Curious step-uncle's house
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
  12/16/25
18000
Curious step-uncle's house
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Curious step-uncle's house
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann
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Curious step-uncle's house
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supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Twinkling mexican
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
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Twinkling mexican
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Massive indecent corner clown
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
contagious bat-shit-crazy affirmative action
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
spruce halford
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supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
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Curious step-uncle's house
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Charcoal bateful lettuce field
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Mahogany exhilarant stead athletic conference
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supple fighting place of business people who are hurt
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Charcoal bateful lettuce field
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Curious step-uncle's house
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Curious step-uncle's house
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
vibrant tattoo goyim
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Curious step-uncle's house



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Curious step-uncle's house

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Curious step-uncle's house

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Curious step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Twinkling mexican

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Twinkling mexican



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Massive indecent corner clown

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: contagious bat-shit-crazy affirmative action

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: spruce halford

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Curious step-uncle's house



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Charcoal bateful lettuce field

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Mahogany exhilarant stead athletic conference

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: supple fighting place of business people who are hurt



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Charcoal bateful lettuce field



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Curious step-uncle's house



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Curious step-uncle's house



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Sable Charismatic Puppy Boltzmann

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: vibrant tattoo goyim

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515738)