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Observed my first DUI trial this week
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:05 PM Author: lake private investor Re-trial from this summer.
VERY liberal jurisdiction.
Def. atty is the "DUI King" for the jurisdiction.
Brought in experts to say the Intox machine was flawed and inaccurate.
jury was out for 9 min.
Guilty.
Taking ?'s |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:06 PM Author: Excitant sneaky criminal hominid I stopped practicing law 4 years ago, and lost 8lb's doing it. Shitlaw will kill you. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849633) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:12 PM Author: 180 location what are you doing now breh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849654) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:09 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian DESCRIBE the defendant's face when the verdict was read.
RATE his disappointment.
Also, what sentence?
Edit: also, did this guy have an accident, hit something, how did he get got? |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:11 PM Author: lake private investor Stone cold expression, at least from where I was sitting.
disappointment was probably 7, parents had to been a 9.8 since they paid DEM BIG FACE HUNNIDS for a re-trial.
$1,000 fine 14 Day jail 60 hrs community service Random Drug Screening 24 months probation |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:13 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian BAC level?
How did he get caught?
What would he have expected to get from a judge? Any record? |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:16 PM Author: lake private investor .113
Leaving bowling alley parking lot, did a burn-out.
2nd DUI in 5 years. He probably expected the "DUI King" to get him a not guilty.
The only winner in this situation was the attorney who got paid RACKS ON RACKS ON RACKS. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:17 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian How does it feel to have put someone in jail for a status crime breh? This guy didn't do shit and now he's got the man coming down on him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849687) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:19 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office how is this a status crime? he is driving a fucking vehicle on a public road. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849702) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:23 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian He hasn't hurt anyone. His only "crime" is the status of alcohol concentration in his blood. It's a totally preemptive arrest, the prior restraint of the criminal world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849730) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:24 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office so there should be no inchoate crimes? lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849738) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:26 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian No, that is not what I'm saying at all. There's a difference between an inchoate crime and a status crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849747) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:28 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office your focus in that post was that there was no real "harm." hence my response. being under the influence is a status. driving a vehicle under the influence is not a status. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849757) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:30 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian They didn't arrest him for his driving. His driving was fine. They arrested him for the status of being drunk when he happened to be driving. Fuck ironiquotes, there was no harm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849768) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:31 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office its not a status crime if you are doing something dipshit. OH MY GOD STATUTORY RAPE IS A STATUS CRIME! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849774) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:33 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian He wasn't doing anything. He was driving in a lawful fashion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849780) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:33 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office not if he was pulled over idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849784) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:35 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian First LOFUCKINGL. Spoken like a credulous true believer.
Second, he "did a burnout" or whatever SoLaw said. Whatever the punishment is for a burnout, that should have been the crime he was charged with. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:36 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office that's a violation of law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849804) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:38 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian Yes, and the law criminalizes his status, which is bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849814) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:41 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig You don't see the social benefit in preemptively taking drunken drivers off of the street? At some point, law has to serve a social function in addition to being merely reactionary or completely punitive. In this case, the social function is protecting lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849831) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:44 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian I see the social function in sterilizing addicts and imbeciles, but I don't support that. Why should I support a law that throws someone in jail for neither causing nor intending any harm whatsoever. It's pure speculation that the driver MIGHT hurt somebody. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849849) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:46 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig It's not an unreasonable assumption or speculation, under the circumstances. It doesn't help that fact that there *appears* to be a correlation between people driving drunk and people getting hurt or killed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849855) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:48 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian It's completely unreasonable. Tens of thousands of people drive drunk every Friday and Saturday. A handful cause accidents, so they should all be guilty of a crime? We don't accept that kind of TTT reasoning in any other arena. It's sheer nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849867) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:41 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office you must be a ttt grad or a 1l. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849832) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:45 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian Not even close bro. I just know a boondoggle when i see it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849853) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:14 PM Author: Provocative trailer park ladyboy agreed. Fuckin MADD has ruined things with their fear-mongering and dishonest statistics. the fact that their own founder quit b/c of this nonsense says a lot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850031) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:11 PM Author: bronze impertinent sex offender church there are about 6-10 guys in my county who do DUIL defense work. if they can't get it dismissed before trial, they almost always lose at trial (@90% losses). other lawyers never get it dismissed before trial then lose 99% at trial, unless the cop fails to appear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849650) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:12 PM Author: lake private investor Dismissed?
My office will give a Reckless Driving if the case is shitty, but we hardly dismiss a DUI.
Shit looks bad if the guy gets drunk again and kills somsone. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:16 PM Author: bronze impertinent sex offender church dismissal is rare. "wet reckless" is sometime achievable. dismissal after ten AA meetings is possible too, if the proof is weak. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849676) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:18 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office yea you only come off a dui charge to reckless when there are proof issues. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849694) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:20 PM Author: bronze impertinent sex offender church you have more experience than me, bro. i'm strictly second-hand. so i defer to you judgment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849708) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:21 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office fair enough. if you start handing out wet reckless pleas the defense attorneys smell blood never leave you alone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849716) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:39 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig Also you have to worry about your boss being like "wtf." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849819) |
Date: January 27th, 2012 9:17 PM Author: Soul-stirring Harsh Ticket Booth Gaming Laptop first time DUI? if so, YIKES (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849683) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:18 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office nah bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849697) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:20 PM Author: beady-eyed chestnut nursing home but that prosecutor had to carry a BURDEN. oh the difficulty! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849712) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:21 PM Author: Soul-stirring Harsh Ticket Booth Gaming Laptop BEYOND any reasonable doubt! BEYOND (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849721) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:26 PM Author: beady-eyed chestnut nursing home jfc how do prosecutors EVER get convictions in this country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849746) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:27 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian They're so OVERBURDENED and have so few resources! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849752) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:29 PM Author: beady-eyed chestnut nursing home and think of all the constitutional rights defendants have! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849760) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:30 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office weird flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849769) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:33 PM Author: beady-eyed chestnut nursing home I'm mocking SoLaw's position that the job of a prosecutor is extraordinarily difficult compared to the defense attorney (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849783) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:34 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office it is more difficult. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849793) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:36 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian ROFL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849803) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:37 PM Author: beady-eyed chestnut nursing home no one who has done both jobs would ever say this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849810) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:17 PM Author: sick rose site holy fuck lol every prosecutor's office is filled with cocksuckers who think they're the best lawyer ever because they are 20-2 or whatever, completely ignoring the fact that juries are aching to convict. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:21 PM Author: lake private investor uh. . .have you read a Def atty's website lately?
I'll admit that PD's are probably the most humble, but that's because not even their own CLIENTS like them.
I was doing jail-clearing today and a guy had DUI drugs. I asked him if he was going to represent himself or get an attorney.
Him: Shiiiiit, I'm gettin' a paid attorney. You know them State-appointed ones don't ever do nuthin'
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:32 PM Author: sick rose site what the fuck are you even talking about here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850182) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 5:04 PM Author: mildly autistic weed whacker fat ankles SHITFLAME EXPOSED.
IRL, that "guy" would actually say, "Shiiitt, I'm gettin' a paid lawy-uh.'
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:58 PM Author: internet-worthy big-titted public bath LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850353) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:43 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig It is more difficult. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849841) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:45 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian (guy with no defense experience) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849854) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:47 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig Actually, now that I think about it, you may be right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849860) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:48 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian TY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849871) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:49 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office its a shittier job. not more difficult though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849876) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:53 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian How can you say this with a straight face? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849891) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:55 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office you haven't offered an explanation for why it is more difficult. its shittier because you have to talk to shitbag criminals all day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849898) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:59 PM Author: lake private investor Def. atty get paid a HELLUVA a lot more than Pros to talk to shitbag criminals all day.
Plus, a lot of Def Bros do Civil cases, too. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:00 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig What? You realize most defense attorneys are publicly-paid public defenders, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849942) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:04 PM Author: lake private investor Assuming there is a State-run centralized PD's office.
My State just recently established a State-wide PD's office. Before that, they just had a "List" of attys that took on indigent defendants and they'd be reimbursed by the Gov't.
Now they've created a centralized agency that handles all PD's in the state. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:08 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig Yeah, I suppose in jurisdictions where defense attorneys are subsidized by the government, they would get paid to talk to shitbag defendants. But trust me... usually, it's not a LOT of money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849989) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:04 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian LOL, I've pwned SoLaw before on exactly this point. The pumo down below hits the high points. Way more resources for prosecution, unjustified credibility for prosecution, etc. Also, lots of judges are former prosecutors and favor their old team. Finally, LOL, prosecutors have to spend more time than defense attorneys talking to shitbag criminals? You're really reaching.
I'm going to the bar man. Get your head on straight. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:08 PM Author: lake private investor 1) You didn't pwn anybody the last time I brought this up, jackass.
2) A lot of judges are former prosecutors WHO WENT INTO PRIVATE/DEFENSE PRACTICE FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO MAKE REAL MONEY before running for office. You might want to include that in your rant next time.
3) When did I say Pros spent more time talking to shitbag criminals? I said Def attorneys get paid more to deal with shitbag criminals. Hell, in my jurisdiction the PD's make AT LEAST 5k more than the Bros in my office.
4) What "extra" resources are you talking about? Prosecutors don't control Cops. The evidence the cops recover is open to both sides, or did your school not teach Brady?
5) Credibility, well, that depends on jurisdictions. Minority-Majority jurisdictions ain't cakewalks unless you have solid evidence and a sympathetic victim. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:19 PM Author: sick rose site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850066) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:58 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig I am a former prosecutor. Have never been a defense attorney. In hindsight, when I think about the fact that I had police doing all the investigative work gathering evidence I need to convict, the fact that most people on a jury are instinctively inclined to convict someone of a crime so long as the evidence is there, the fact that when defendants actually invoke their constitutional rights to not testify, juries usually hold that against them despite an instruction not to do so, and the fact that as a general proposition, the odds are stacked in the prosecutor's favor, a defense attorney's job seems more difficult. As a prosecutor, you generally are not fighting an uphill battle. As a defense attorney, you almost always are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849918) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:03 PM Author: lake private investor TBF,
You'd agree that the jury is less likely to convict on certain crimes:
1. Simple possession
2. Non-violent rapes
3. Bar fights
4. DUI cases where the guy "looks sober"
5. Any domestic violent case where the victim refuses to cooperate. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:04 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig I'd disagree that the juries are less likely to convict in all of those scenarios.
1. Agree
2. Maybe
3. Agree
4. Don't agree
5. Don't agree |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:06 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig Also this is besides my point. The point is you have an easier job as a prosecutor to do your job than a defense attorney does. Example: Defense attorney's have investigators to, in theory, help investigate. Problem is, most witnesses don't want to talk to the defense attorney or his investigator. Meanwhile, as a prosecutor, you simply just send the cops to do follow-up. Most people who are victims or witnesses to a crime don't really have a problem talking to them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849971) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:13 PM Author: lake private investor HAHAHA, good luck trying to get a cop to admit that he left out something or fucked up an interview.
ME: YEah, I don't see a witness statement.
Him: Really? I'm sure I put it in the box that statements are supposed to go in when I turned in the case.
Me: DO you think you could go back to the victim and get their statement.
Him: Yeah, sorry, I would, but I'm off tomorrow and won't be back on until 10:00 on <insert random day>
Me: Well, could you go back over there when you come back?
Him: Yeah, well, I'll have to see when I get back.
*click*
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:27 PM Author: sick rose site oh shit that sounds terrible much worse than cross examining a cop (in uniform) who remembers in explicit detail a bunch of events that happened 18 months ago even though they aren't in the police report disclosed to you prior to trial. lol lol |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:16 PM Author: lake private investor "Most people who are victims or witnesses to a crime don't really have a problem talking to them."
HAHAHAHAHA!
I can't tell you how many times witnesses have given me the classic:
"Do I have to come to Court, I gotta take off of work that day. Can't I just give a written statement?"
OR
Once they get on the stand they give this response,
"Well. . .i can't really remember what happened."; or
"Well, I was there, but I didn't see <DEFENDANT> do xyz, Joe Blow TOLD ME what happened, and then I called 911."
Nobody likes Prosecutors until THEY are the victim and they want blood/revenge. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:31 PM Author: sick rose site lol, try comparing this to a defense attorney trying to get a statement out of witness scenario 1: Hi, I'm a cop, I need to talk to you about XYZ crime. OK! scenario 2: Hi, I am defending the guy who attacked you, I want to talk to you about the crime *hangup*
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:52 PM Author: lake private investor or
Scenario 3:
Cop: Hi, I'm a cop, I'm looking for Jamal.
Jamal: Nah, he ain't here.
*hangs up* |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:06 PM Author: beady-eyed chestnut nursing home tell me the conviction rate in your jurisdiction and then we can talk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849972) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:06 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office also, he fails to mention that the defense has all of the evidence the state plans to put on. the opposite is not true. and i agree with you - the burden is a very real thing in most types of cases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849974) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:10 PM Author: beady-eyed chestnut nursing home fuck the defense even has the right of discovery! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849999) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:13 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office i'm not complaining about that. i'm just saying that there is no discovery the other way around a lot of the time. and that makes your job much more fucking difficult. there are no fucking surprises for defense counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850021) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:11 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig Dude, come on. "The burden" is hard, but the odds are highly stacked in a prosecutor's favor. In a lot of jurisdictions, for instance, the prosecutor gets to make the first argument to the jury and the last. That's a tangible strategic advantage. Primacy and recency. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850004) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:12 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office i don't think the odds are stacked at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850010) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:20 PM Author: sick rose site you are delusional and wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850084) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:07 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Hot Senate International Law Enforcement Agency Depends on the jurisdiction. Where I work, juries are not inclined to convict. There's deep-seated distrust of law enforcement. We also have lots of hugely incompetent defense attorneys thanks to the local TTTT. Jurors tend to be sympathetic to the defendants who end up with the really bad ones. As a prosecutor you end up having to both prosecute the case and do most of the defense in order to protect the record. Huge uphill battles, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849980) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:12 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig I can understand this, as well. I still feel that as a general proposition, a prosecutor has it easier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850007) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:13 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Hot Senate International Law Enforcement Agency I would agree with you generally, but there are most definitely exceptions, which is all I wanted to point out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850017) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:20 PM Author: Mind-boggling Bearded Mad Cow Disease Rigpig We can agree on that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850078) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:22 PM Author: sick rose site small exceptions. the vast VAST majority of the country are strongly pro-prosecution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850102) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:23 PM Author: sick rose site titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850113) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:17 PM Author: sick rose site defense is so much harder, it is fucking laughable that anyone (even a prosecutor) wouldn't see this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850057) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:31 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian Damn hippie courts and ACTIVIST JUDGES, can't even beat a confession out of a suspect anymore without the ACLU getting it's panties in a bunch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849772) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:34 PM Author: abnormal pit When PDs can just have their guy NOT TESTIFY, and also have INVESTIGATORS! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849788) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:36 PM Author: beady-eyed chestnut nursing home the defendant doesn't have to say a single thing! the defense can rest RIGHT AFTER the prosecution and not even put on a case! I mean seriously! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849802) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:39 PM Author: abnormal pit The defense can sit there PLAYING CARDS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849818) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:41 PM Author: Motley bull headed pozpig persian It's Miranda that's hamstringing law enforcement so badly. One day will get the votes to change that law.
Also, who says that fruit is really poisonous? |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:23 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office solaw bro, i thought you've been doing this for a while? haven't done one yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849729) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:57 PM Author: lake private investor THAT FUCKER had 2 trials with me for this month.
He got a Continuance on one, but kept the other one in Trial STatus.
1st Calendar Call: Trial Status
2nd Calendar Call: Trial Status
FINAL Calendar Call: Trial Status
???
You have a trial going on RIGHT NAO!
So I go up to him during one of the breaks.
Me: So what is the deal with our trial?
Him: Oh, it'll go forward on Wed.
Me: But your expert just left to fly out to New York.
Him: Oh, well, I. . uh. . .hopefully he'll be back by Wed, or else I"ll have to ask for a Continuance.
Me: . . . .?
This FUCKER knew he wasn't going to try my case, but he kept the shit in Trial STatus KILLING my weekend b/c I had to prep for the trial.
So I finally ask the judge (in front of Def and on the record) for determination on what to do since the FUCKER had asked for a Continuance on ANOTHER CASE.
The Judge "instructed" both of us that the two cases would either be tried next month during trial week or they'd be disposed. No more Continuances.
I doubt the FUCKER will try both of them, he only tries cases when the clients cough up the $$$ for trial. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:05 PM Author: electric fuchsia feces office shit that sucks bro. defense attorneys and their fucking continuances... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849964) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:08 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Hot Senate International Law Enforcement Agency Shiyyyat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849985) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:19 PM Author: lake private investor Look, I understand if the client hasn't paid the retainer yet.
But don't waste my time/life by playing dumb games.
If you know you need a Continuance, then tell me AHEAD OF TIME then you can request it and I can move on tot he next case.
Why be an asshole? |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:58 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Hot Senate International Law Enforcement Agency I thought you'd been working as a prosecutor for four or five months now, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19849913) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:22 PM Author: lake private investor Nah, that's the other guy who posted the Pros. post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850103) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:37 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Hot Senate International Law Enforcement Agency Nah, bro. You were posting about working as a prosecutor back in the fall. Why'd it take you so long to sit in on a DUI trial? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19850219) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:55 PM Author: lake private investor MOST DUI's in my jurisdiction don't go to trial because:
1) The bulk of them are taken by the "DUI King".
2) and he'll only try a case if the number is low and the client pays at least $10k for experts and trial.
The last DUI trial I observed was laughable b/c the Def tried to run the "He's a great guy and here are all of his community/friends to testify to that fact" Defense. |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 5:06 PM Author: Mentally Impaired Hot Senate International Law Enforcement Agency You must be in a small jurisdiction. We have typically have two or three bench DUI trials a day and another two to three go to a jury on appeal every month. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859625&forum_id=2#19853888) |