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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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razzmatazz codepig
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
motley indian lodge
  12/16/25
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razzmatazz codepig
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Fragrant Hominid Temple
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
motley indian lodge
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Fragrant Hominid Temple
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
motley indian lodge
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Fragrant Hominid Temple
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
razzmatazz codepig
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
motley indian lodge
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Fragrant Hominid Temple
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
motley indian lodge
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Fragrant Hominid Temple
  12/17/25
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razzmatazz codepig
  12/17/25
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motley indian lodge
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Adventurous lake business firm fat ankles
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
motley indian lodge
  12/16/25
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Adventurous lake business firm fat ankles
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Overrated location cuckoldry
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
motley indian lodge
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
cobalt antidepressant drug haunted graveyard
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
motley indian lodge
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
zippy saffron plaza fortuitous meteor
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motley indian lodge
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razzmatazz codepig
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
twisted abode
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Vibrant Mint Coffee Pot
  12/17/25
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motley indian lodge
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twisted abode
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razzmatazz codepig
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razzmatazz codepig
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Fragrant Hominid Temple
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
pea-brained hairraiser legend forum
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: razzmatazz codepig



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: motley indian lodge

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: razzmatazz codepig

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Fragrant Hominid Temple

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: motley indian lodge

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Fragrant Hominid Temple

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: motley indian lodge

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Fragrant Hominid Temple

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: razzmatazz codepig

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: motley indian lodge

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Fragrant Hominid Temple

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: motley indian lodge

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Fragrant Hominid Temple

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: razzmatazz codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: motley indian lodge



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Adventurous lake business firm fat ankles

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: motley indian lodge

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Adventurous lake business firm fat ankles



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Overrated location cuckoldry

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: motley indian lodge

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: cobalt antidepressant drug haunted graveyard

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: motley indian lodge

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: zippy saffron plaza fortuitous meteor

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: motley indian lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: razzmatazz codepig



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: twisted abode

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Vibrant Mint Coffee Pot

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: motley indian lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: twisted abode



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: razzmatazz codepig



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: razzmatazz codepig



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Fragrant Hominid Temple

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: pea-brained hairraiser legend forum

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515738)