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Founding Fathers by Clique

George Washington — Prep/Jock Alexander Hamilton &mda...
effete mind-boggling temple trust fund
  12/22/25
I really like it here
Vermilion Dead Boistinker
  12/22/25
Were there any notable scumbags during the Revolution?
razzmatazz reading party
  12/22/25
Francis Marion was a High Loser who commanded an irregular a...
effete mind-boggling temple trust fund
  12/23/25
Washington is the greatest prep/jock in world history
out-of-control toilet seat
  12/22/25
In a 1807 letter to Benjamin Rush, Adams listed Washington&r...
effete mind-boggling temple trust fund
  12/23/25
Aaron Burr called Washington an idiot who couldn't "spe...
bright excitant sound barrier location
  12/23/25
yup dumb people lead thousands of men to upset victories ove...
out-of-control toilet seat
  12/23/25
plenty of high iq commanders (eg burr, hamilton, von steuben...
bright excitant sound barrier location
  12/23/25
not saying he had a high iq. he was far too socially aware -...
out-of-control toilet seat
  12/23/25
The fun part is discussing the rage he brings out in Losers....
effete mind-boggling temple trust fund
  12/23/25
far outweighed by his enormous accomplishments - of which we...
out-of-control toilet seat
  12/23/25
Paine’s published “Letter to George Washington&r...
effete mind-boggling temple trust fund
  12/23/25
nobody liked paine, including paine. he was a beligerant ass...
out-of-control toilet seat
  12/23/25
He basically was one of the people who kicked the whole thin...
effete mind-boggling temple trust fund
  12/23/25
no scumbags?
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  12/23/25
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effete mind-boggling temple trust fund
  12/23/25
James Madison wrote the Constitution. He is obviously a Lose...
swollen step-uncle's house
  12/23/25
James Madison was born into wealth, land, and inherited auth...
effete mind-boggling temple trust fund
  12/23/25
He is best known for writing a legal document. He is a Loser...
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  12/23/25
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drab shrine fanboi
  12/23/25
He was a Nerd and also basically a High Loser
effete mind-boggling temple trust fund
  12/23/25
you really have to give up your clique expert card. really o...
Opaque roast beef codepig
  12/23/25
He wasn’t a Jock at all iirc
effete mind-boggling temple trust fund
  12/23/25
george mason was a bit of an odd fellow apparently - I&rsquo...
Henna offensive native private investor
  12/23/25


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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:10 PM
Author: effete mind-boggling temple trust fund

George Washington — Prep/Jock

Alexander Hamilton — Loser

James Madison — Prep

Gouverneur Morris — Prep

James Wilson — Loser

John Jay — Prep

Thomas Jefferson — Prep

John Adams — Loser

Benjamin Franklin — Nerd

Samuel Adams — Loser

Patrick Henry — Loser

Thomas Paine — Low Loser

Nathanael Greene — Loser

Henry Knox — Nerd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49532774)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:21 PM
Author: Vermilion Dead Boistinker

I really like it here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49532801)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: razzmatazz reading party

Were there any notable scumbags during the Revolution?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49532809)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 8:30 AM
Author: effete mind-boggling temple trust fund

Francis Marion was a High Loser who commanded an irregular army of Scumbags. Marion’s men were not produced by the Revolution, they were exposed by it. Clique Theory orthodoxy holds that Scumbags exist prior to ideology and become operational when hierarchy loosens, and the Carolina swamps functioned as a solvent that stripped away residual restraint. These were bodies already trained by deprivation, dampness, and casual violence, for whom liberty was not an idea but a temporary suspension of consequence. Scumbags do not metabolize abstraction, they respond to permission, grievance, and proximity to force. The swamp rewarded endurance, disappearance, and predation while dissolving discipline, paperwork, and permanence. Marion did not reform this material, orthodoxy forbids reform, he merely vectored it outward through scarcity, silence, and selective tolerance. Violence was not condemned, it was aimed. The effectiveness of the force derived from its incompatibility with institutions. When the republic congealed into law, property, and legibility, these bodies became excess matter. History then performed sanitation, recoding Scumbags as rustic patriots, preserving the myth while erasing the mechanism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533244)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:36 PM
Author: out-of-control toilet seat

Washington is the greatest prep/jock in world history

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49532831)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 8:18 AM
Author: effete mind-boggling temple trust fund

In a 1807 letter to Benjamin Rush, Adams listed Washington’s “talents” in a way that is clearly sarcastic about what made him admired: focusing on looks, height, and fortune rather than intellect or learning:

Adams described Washington’s qualities as including a “handsome Face,” a “tall Stature,” “elegant Form,” and “graceful Attitudes and Movement,” then concluded without mentioning reading, thinking, or writing — implicitly mocking the idea that Washington’s greatness came from intellect.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533237)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: bright excitant sound barrier location

Aaron Burr called Washington an idiot who couldn't "spell a sentence of common english"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533785)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:45 AM
Author: out-of-control toilet seat

yup dumb people lead thousands of men to upset victories over the worlds greatest army and then create a presidency from scratch all the time...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533816)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:49 AM
Author: bright excitant sound barrier location

plenty of high iq commanders (eg burr, hamilton, von steuben). Washington just wasn't one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533826)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:54 AM
Author: out-of-control toilet seat

not saying he had a high iq. he was far too socially aware - people that smooth rarely break 120. but to say he was an idiot or lacked intellect is silly and speaks more about the insecurities Washington brought out in others than of Washington.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533838)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: effete mind-boggling temple trust fund

The fun part is discussing the rage he brings out in Losers. But with that said you should consider his many Blunders:

Fort Necessity (1754): Surrendered a poorly sited fort.

Jumonville Affair: Helped ignite a global war through rash action.

Misreading French intentions (1754): Diplomatic naiveté.

Braddock Campaign: Failed to adapt to frontier warfare early.

Overconfidence in militia: Repeatedly disappointed.

Long Island (1776): Allowed himself to be badly outflanked.

Failure to fortify Brooklyn Heights adequately.

Loss of New York City: Strategically catastrophic.

Harlem Heights pursuit: Nearly overextended after success.

White Plains indecision.

Fort Washington: Refused evacuation; lost 3,000 men.

Fort Lee abandonment: Supplies lost.

New Jersey retreat mismanagement.

Reliance on short-term enlistments.

Poor intelligence networks early war.

Quebec campaign support (indirect).

Over-centralized command style.

Valley Forge logistics failures.

Monmouth command confusion.

Charles Lee tolerance too long.

Rhode Island campaign (1778): Failed Franco-American coordination.

Staten Island raid failures.

West Point security lapse (Arnold affair).

Southern strategy delays.

Overtrust in some political generals.

Slow adoption of guerrilla methods.

Poor cavalry integration early.

Supply system corruption tolerance.

Underestimating British naval mobility.

Dependence on French intervention for decisive victory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49534827)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: out-of-control toilet seat

far outweighed by his enormous accomplishments - of which we owe our very existence. He is the greatest man ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49535225)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: effete mind-boggling temple trust fund

Paine’s published “Letter to George Washington” of 1796:

You knew enough of my character to be assured that I could not have deserved imprisonment in France, and without knowing anything more than this you had sufficient ground to have taken some interest for my safety.

Every motive arising from recollection of times past ought to have suggested to you the propriety of such a measure.

But I cannot find that you have so much as directed any enquiry to be made whether I was in prison or at liberty, dead or alive…

In the progress of events you beheld yourself a President in America and me a prisoner in France. You folded your arms, forgot your friend, and became silent.

…you have not served America with more disinterestedness, or greater zeal, or more fidelity, than myself…

…you rested at home to partake of the advantages.

As everything I have been doing in Europe was connected with my wishes for the prosperity of America, I ought to be the more surprised at this conduct…

…the presence of a man who might disapprove, and who had credit enough with the Country to be heard and believed, was not wished for…

This was the operating motive…

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533658)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: out-of-control toilet seat

nobody liked paine, including paine. he was a beligerant asshole through and through. Any slander by him is a compliment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533812)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: effete mind-boggling temple trust fund

He basically was one of the people who kicked the whole thing off iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49535013)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 8:25 AM
Author: pale range corn cake

no scumbags?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533240)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: effete mind-boggling temple trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533518)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: swollen step-uncle's house

James Madison wrote the Constitution. He is obviously a Loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533660)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: effete mind-boggling temple trust fund

James Madison was born into wealth, land, and inherited authority, a Prep calibrated before thought. Clique Theory reads this clearly: pedigree, property, and social networks are primary signals, not adornments. He did not hustle for prestige, pen letters to insist on virtue, or plead for recognition. He moved within elite structures preordained to receive him, drafting the Constitution, engineering compromise, and writing the Federalist Papers with quiet authority. Compare this to John Adams, a man of modest birth, constantly performing, anxious to claim his station, forever trying to assert relevance; the archetypal Loser energy. Madison’s power was structural, inherited, and effortlessly exercised, Adams’s was scrabbling, visible, and contingent. Whereas Adams wrote, argued, and campaigned for recognition, Madison built the framework upon which republics operate, invisible yet indispensable. In Clique Theory terms, wealth and pedigree convert Madison’s Prep energy into permanent influence; he did not need to try, and history rewarded him accordingly imho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533755)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 12:12 PM
Author: swollen step-uncle's house

He is best known for writing a legal document. He is a Loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533891)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 11:54 AM
Author: drab shrine fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49533839)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: effete mind-boggling temple trust fund

He was a Nerd and also basically a High Loser

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49535017)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 6:03 PM
Author: Opaque roast beef codepig

you really have to give up your clique expert card. really only preps and losers in your assessment. and how ben franklin isn't a jockgineer is beyond me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49535024)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 6:18 PM
Author: effete mind-boggling temple trust fund

He wasn’t a Jock at all iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49535069)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 6:27 PM
Author: Henna offensive native private investor

george mason was a bit of an odd fellow apparently - I’ll bet he’d be in the drama club group

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5813332&forum_id=2#49535087)