So this "Ukraine war" is going to end in a stalemate?
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 7:23 PM Author: Tan Wonderful Tank Sweet Tailpipe
you’re an ugly dork with an even uglier wife and fake baby living in a swamp
not to mention that you’ve been getting blown out RE Russia for going on two years now
maybe take a break from even commenting on Russia at all
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46875338) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 7:35 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
"you’re an ugly dork with an even uglier wife and fake baby living in a swamp"
Now do yourself and your family
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46875407) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 7:40 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Yep I'm a total loser with no friends or family
OK, back to you!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46875434) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:54 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
To be fair,
REMINDER to future TBF when he bumps this thread: This monicker is TDNW.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880997) |
Date: October 1st, 2023 11:24 PM Author: fear-inspiring toilet seat
stalemate yes
Russia stronger? no, not even the biggest Russia hack could claim that. Russia is already far far weaker for it
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46871386) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 9:09 PM Author: Trip tanning salon lettuce
$33 trillion in debt. Cold War reserves in both the US and the EU largely spent down and a population that is sick of this BS.
China is going to attack Taiwan no matter what. But now the US population is sick of endless wars and no one has any desire to fight China, let alone Russia.
All of this stupid neocon bullshit is going to end in predictable disaster (Russia will win in Ukraine, China will win in Taiwan, and we'll still have all the debt which we have no ability to repay).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46881116) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:22 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Look, they literally have endless volunteers begging to go die on the battlefield fighting these disgusting Ivan Orcs. *Literally* endless volunteers, trust me, TDNW has provided assurances, and he knows these things -- he wouldn't lie, he's not like that.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5168011&forum_id=2#44978531
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880777) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:10 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
LMAO
Well you got one part right
And hey at least you aren't an overtly partisan retard who happily swallows obvious propaganda just as long as it fits into your worldview, unlike those stupid Russiacucks, haha yeah ;)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880684) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:22 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Oh well if the *NYT* said it (I mean, except for that NYT link I dropped on you below where they were wrong, but that was obviously totally different for reasons so that doesn't count)
Lol you guys are hilarious
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880776) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:30 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Hey, who am I to argue with someone who basically just proved that Russia has lost 3-4x as many soldiers in a few key areas alone as Ukraine has lost across the entire breadth and duration of this war. It's settled political science, sorry Trumpkins... no wonder Ukraine is now dominating the battlefield!
Lmao I mean what can you even say to this shit
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880828)
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:35 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
"Do you even have a *single* NYT article to support that? A WaPo link? Hell, even a CNN segment?!"
Lol well this was fun... hope you die in a house fire, my kike "friend" ;)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880856) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:43 PM Author: Trip tanning salon lettuce
You realize most of the shit delivered to Ukraine is ancient shit from ex-Warsaw pact countries, right?
Also, that Iranian stuff has caused endless tears for Ukrainians and Western advisors. It is drone tech that turned out to be shockingly effective while being very cheap.
Meanwhile, it isn't clear what NK is giving Russia.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880917) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:51 PM Author: low-t pale half-breed site
Ukrainian counter artillery work has been pretty amazing. Admittedly with a big helping hand from the US.
Crazy that just western tech and western intel is so fucking deadly we can turn it over to a bunch of half trained Slavs and this is what they can achieve.
Fucking AMERICA BABBBBYYYYYY yeahhhhhhh
- Obeezy
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880976) |
Date: October 2nd, 2023 11:31 AM Author: Mint twisted mental disorder
The premise of the link in OP is 1) US is on the verge of pulling its support, which is retarded, 2) Poland is pulling its support, which is retarded, 3) Slovakia being some kind of major player in Ukraine, which is retarded. Russia has one hope to escape from this conflict with merely a badly weakened military reputation and permanent crippled economy, which is Trump winning next year and not kicking them while they’re down (a weirdly underappreciated possibility, given how gleefully Putin has sucked Xi’s micropeen for the last two years). Putin, like all boomers, needs a succession plan but is too much of a megalomaniac to ever actually put one in place. Sometime in the next 7 years that will be his downfall, probably having little to do with Ukraine directly, though it is 100% his Iraq War already.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46872602) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 2:14 PM Author: Trip tanning salon lettuce
1) https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1708874955352318149
2) they are similarly sick of Ukraine
3) It is a NATO and EU member that is another country that will block anything of benefit to Ukraine. Pretending like this is nbd is incredibly dumb. Further, it is one of 4 EU/NATO countries that directly border Ukraine. As of today, 2 are now pro-Russian to various degrees.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46873592) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 7:16 PM Author: irradiated whorehouse
JFC is there an intelligent Russiacuck on this planet? Probably not, because if they were, they wouldn't be a Russiacuck. Anyway,
1) If a standalone bill on aid to Ukraine went to the floor of Congress today, it would easily pass both houses. The only reason that hasn't happened is because McCarthy has refused to let a bill come to the floor to try to save his own ass. But it's going to happen eventually.
2) Holy shit seriously? Because everyone knows that Poland is famously pro-Russia and doesn't have any history of being bullied by Russia or any reason to be afraid of them. One Polish official threatened to cut military aid after a trade dispute. The walked back the statement like two days later. Absolutely nothing to see here. If anything, the EU has been increasing its support for Ukraine.
3) ROFL this is some true copium. "The wealthy countries of the West remain united against us, but at least almighty Slovakia is on our side." Even if you believe that Slovakia matters, Fico's party got under 23% of the vote. And no other party supports cutting aid to Ukraine other than a couple fringe neo-Nazi parties. If Fico wants to form a government, he's going to have to change his stance. Otherwise he will lose his shot and we will get another PS government. Either way, it is pretty unlikely that it will actually result in a big result in a big shift in Ukraine policy, much less the war itself.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880479) |
Date: October 2nd, 2023 11:57 AM Author: electric rehab deer antler
The basic premise of the tweet in OP is that Russia keeping territory it invaded is a win for it. It's actually a very ambiguous result. Putin's stated war aims at the start of the invasion were to "demilitarize and denazify" Ukraine. In other words, make it a docile puppet state.
Even if Russia keeps the Donbas, as seems likely, it will face a Ukraine armed to the teeth whose citizens will despise Russia for generations. In fact, the loss of the Donbas means that the Ukraine which remains will be far more united- no Russian sympathizers in the east to worry about messing with their internal politics.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46872704) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 3:45 PM Author: Tan Wonderful Tank Sweet Tailpipe
this is the dumbest take of many dumb takes, namely because it will never happen
Europe absolutely does not want Russia on its border in another spot and they 100% want Ukraine in the EU (more than Ukraine wants to be in the EU)
the money and guns will not stop until Ukraine itself decides to stop fighting, which is not even close to being the case
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46874150) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 4:04 PM Author: Tan Wonderful Tank Sweet Tailpipe
no, Europe as a whole is not pulling back. Poland is the Ho Chi Minh trail of this war and that will not stop no matter what. and that’s their biggest contribution
Slovakia is like Chicago population wise
most of Europe is ramping up their MIC to support Ukraine long term, and EU has long term plans to back them up fiscally
the US is a large player but by no means the end all be all
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46874291) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 4:20 PM Author: Trip tanning salon lettuce
So Ukraine and Poland publicly beefing is nbd.
Slovakia electing an anti-Ukrainian and explicitly pro-Russian government is nbd.
The recent US budget being passed only after ALL Ukraine funding got stripped out and being the showstopper is nbd. It is especially nbd since the US remains by far the largest source of funding for Ukraine and our taxpayer dollars pay for Ukraine's government salaries and pensions, which is stopping. But people in Ukraine no longer having money is nbd.
The summer offensive being a total disaster and Ukraine ending the summer losing more land than they gained is nbd (this is per the New York Times, by the way).
I'm glad I'm not a paid Ukrainian propagandist because you guys don't have an easy job lately.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46874402) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:40 PM Author: Tan Wonderful Tank Sweet Tailpipe
we killed 2 million Vietnamese, and Russians killed 1 million Afghans
but those were unwinnable wars with impossible objectives against very determined foes
here Russia at best has military parity with Ukraine, but the latter has 100x better backing and infinitely more motivation
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880894) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:43 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Don't forget that Ukraine also literally (not figuratively, literally) has an endless stream of happy volunteers who can't wait to go fight in the field!
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5168011&forum_id=2#44978531
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880920) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 4:51 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Weird... I see the part where you call him a dumb faggot... and I see the part where you say he makes constant excuses for Russia and it's pathetic and gay...
...but I'm not seeing the part where you actually poin out all of the lies he included in this long poast which purports to detail a whole bunch of shit that has gone really really badly for Ukraine over the last six months.
Did you forget to include that part in your response? I'm sure he was lying through his teeth as usual and you just forgot to actually call out the lies and expose them, right?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46874592) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 4:50 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
TDNW October 2022: "This war will be over by Summer, Russia is not only going to lose but it's going to get pushed out of all Ukrainian territories and good chance that it descends into civil war when that happens."
TDNW October 2023: "No, ackkkkshually, when you step back and take a broader look, Europe *as a whole* is not pulling back from supporting Ukraine, per se..."
Haha wow what a different a year makes, life comes at you fast sometimes haha yeah ;)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46874589) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 5:33 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
"I didn't poast that, but also, even if I did, you're the one who should really be embarrassed. Pwned!"
Lmao Juan jfc
Just for the record, did you poast this thread, or should I also somehow suffer the embarrassment here, too?
http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417672&mc=100&forum_id=2
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880001) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:25 PM Author: irradiated whorehouse
Yeah, Ukraine has moved tanks and other heavy Western gear to within 10-15 miles of Tokmak, but it is in "absolutely no danger." This is going to be fun to bump when Tokmak falls (which it almost certainly will in the near future barring some unforeseen game changer).
And almost all of Russia supplies go via rail. Yes, if Tokmak falls, they could still theoretically resupply their troops via truck, but that went absolutely brilliantly when they tried it outside Kyiv. And even the remaining highways outside of Kyiv would be within the range of tube artillery once Ukraine controls Tokmak. So, yes, if (when?) Tokmak falls, that's very bad news for Russia.
And where do you get this nonsense about "human wave attacks" and why do you believe it? Just because Russia is willing to sacrifice tens of thousands of troops at Bahkmut and Vuhledar doesn't mean that Ukraine is stupid enough to try the same thing. Actually Ukraine has been engaging in a very slow war of attrition in their Tokmak offensive precisely because they don't want unnecessary casualties.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880798) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:32 PM Author: irradiated whorehouse
Is your argumentation style just to keep repeating lies and hope your Russiacuck buddies believe them? Any military buff who has followed this war understands why Tokmak is so important. Here is some more "Jewish propaganda" about Tokmak's strategic importance for anyone interested in reading:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/18/2164565/-Quick-Explainer-Why-Tokmak-is-as-important-as-Izium-Lyman-or-Kupiansk
By the way, does your head hurt even a little when you see that Israel is also supporting Russia? Interesting that you keep accuse the pro-Ukraine side of being Jewish when the Jews are actually supporting your side.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880842) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:34 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Your "argumentation style" ITT has been to ignore all of my links below, misrepresent the entire thesis of my argument (pretending I based it on whatever the fuck Kevin McCarthy did today rather than all of the other shit I linked to), and then smugly inform me that the current casualty rates stand at ~70k dead Ukrainians and 300-400k dead Russians and anyone who thinks those numbers are retarded is a Putin dicklicker and PS Ukraine is more dominant on the battlefield now than at any point in the past, it's basically GG for Russia.
Almost as if...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880851) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:41 PM Author: irradiated whorehouse
ROFL! Thanks for proving my point. Odd that I have responded to your links about 10 times at this point. Here is my response again, in case you missed it the first ten times:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880561
But it looks to me like you recognize that you are being humiliated here and you hope that you save face by repeating your lies over and over again and hoping nobody has actually read the thread.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880902) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:46 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
You've "responded" to my links making the point that within the last two weeks, Poland publicly declared it was cutting back on aid to Ukraine (before it was forced to walk that statement back... for now), Britain announced it has basically run out of ammo to give Ukraine, and it appears that Slovenia is about to elect a pro-Putin Head of State, by...
...saying that America will continue to fund Ukraine for the time being, and calling me a retard or whatever?
Wow compelling response, why did I foolishly think you were dodging those data points about the ongoing collapse of support among several NATO states and in Europe generally for continuing to endlessly fund Ukraine???
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880944) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:58 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
What the fuck are you even talking about, Avi?
Here's a bet -- link me to a single place, in this thread or in any other thread, where I claimed that the US *won't* pass another bill funding Ukraine in 2023, and I'll email you my XO username and password from my personal gmail account along with my full IRL name, DOB, and SSN.
I mean, I surely made that claim somewhere, right? Since you keep calling me out on it to "pwn" me? It's definitely not just a fucktarded strawman that you made up because you don't want to address any of the other points (which have NOTHING to do with America) that I have raised ITT, right?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46881025) |
Date: October 2nd, 2023 2:20 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Huh? Russia lost, it's already over. Been over for more than a year now. What are you smoking bro?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46873636) |
Date: October 2nd, 2023 2:54 PM Author: Beady-eyed lemon bawdyhouse partner
Actually, Russia has now attrited 3 separate Ukrainian armies, with over 300k Ukrainian casualties. Ukraine has little human capital or materiel with which to continue fighting.
If he could politically handle 100-200k casualties, Putin could probably roll back Ukraine to Kiev within the next year.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46873790)
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 2:59 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Huh? Putin? He died like 15 months ago, buddy.
Russia literally doesn't even have any ammo left at this point. What are you talking about? Put down "Telegram" and watch some real news for a change, retard!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46873824) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 5:04 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
"Otoh we destroyed Al Qaeda and forced it to completely re-design itself into a much less potent threat, we killed most of the key figures involved with 9/11 and we showed the Muslim world that we don’t think of them as equals and we are willing to subject them to millions of casualties of both combatants and civilians to ensure that we cause problems for terrorist organizations that use their shitty failed state apparatuses as havens to increase reach and capability."
Oh wow what an important win for Isra -- er, uh, America!
Tell me you're a fucking Jew without saying you're Jewish, (((Pumo))).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46874693) |
Date: October 2nd, 2023 3:15 PM Author: Pearly Mexican Goal In Life
oh no no no Ukraine bros.
We got too cocky!
Balance Of Power Turns In Favor Of Russia | Critical Stage Of Ukraine's Offensive
https://youtu.be/OEUCWLpbhiA?si=oG8x769vQEfiFwGg
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46873921) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 5:07 PM Author: Trip tanning salon lettuce
Absolutely. Remember that 1) Putin was dying, 2) Russia was definitely out of everything, 3) Russian troops were drunk, poorly trained and unmotivated, 4) on top of that Ukrainians were ubermensch, not like Russian mongrels. Then that summer came and went, but it's cool because Summer 2023 Ukraine was gonna get WESTERN TANKS! Then Russia is definitely dun here.
Now it is Fall 2023. Everything is wrecked. Everyone is sick of Ukraine. Anti-Ukrainian candidates are outright winning in key Euro states. Germany (!!) is seeing the anti-Ukraine party surging (the Afd). US pols that are anti-Ukraine are carrying the day.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46874707)
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Date: October 2nd, 2023 5:10 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
In fairness to the Ukrainecels, no one could have possible seen that any of that wasn't true back then, and anyone who claims they always thought that was a bunch of horseshit is lying.
Just like with the COVID stuff -- sure, now we know that it's just a cold... but back in June 2020, no one could have possible understood that, and anyone claiming they did is just a liar.
Haha yeah HAHA
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46874724) |
Date: October 3rd, 2023 7:03 PM Author: irradiated whorehouse
ROFL! I love the way that Russiacucks celebrate when some dude on Twitter repeats some of their talking points, even when it is blatantly obvious that they know nothing about conditions on the ground. War is unpredictable, and it's hard to make predictions, especially about the future. But this much can be said about the war with reasonable certainty:
1) Ukraine is making slow but steady progress outside of Tokmak, and has already penetrated for the two Russian defensive lines. If they continue at their current rate, they would control Tokmak within several months. When Tokmak falls, that cuts Russia's main east/west rail supply line. It also puts every single one of their ground supply lines within range of tube artillery. Combine that with Ukraine receiving better long-range missiles that can target the Kerch bridge, and there is a strong likelihood that Russia will no longer be able to supply their troops in Crimea and the entire western theater. And if Russia loses Crimea, it's going to be pretty hard to spin anything in this war as a win, even if they manage to hold onto a few pieces of the Donbas.
2) Both Ukrainian military reports and third party reports (i.e., Oryx) indicate that Ukraine is destroying Russian artillery systems at the highest rate since the war began. Combine that with U.S. cluster munitions, and suddenly Ukraine has an enormous firepower advantage. Russia, meanwhile, aside from running low on shells, has almost no capacity to produce military-grade steel, meaning they have almost no ability to replace destroyed artillery systems. Or to replace worn artillery barrels, for that matter. This is a major problem for Russia, because their military dogma going back to czarist days depends on superior artillery. This puts Russia in a very bad spot in a war of attrition.
I'm hesitant to make predictions, but I do feel confident in saying that if Western support continues, eventually Ukraine will liberate most or all of the currently occupied territories. Whether that happens in six months or six years, I'm far less certain about. And this could change if Ukraine makes a major blunder or if China decides to prop up Russia. But the bottom line is that a sanctioned-choked Russian economy can't beat the West in a long-term war of attrition. The Russiacucks who are celebrating slow Ukrainian progress are simply living in a fantasy world.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880436) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 7:13 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
"LOL at these retarded Russiacucks who confidently make predictions -- you can't predict much of anything under these conditions, retards. Having said that, I am pretty confident that Ukraine will ultimately achieve total victory here (and yes, my saying that is totally different from the Russiacucks confidently making their stupid predictions for obvious reasons)."
LJL Pumo, LJL
"I do feel confident in saying that if Western support continues..."
Uhhhhh, in case you didn't notice, the clear signs that Western support is starting to waiver on multiple fronts was one of the primary impetuses for this thread being created in the first place. Or did that fact somehow escape your attention, my genius (((Pumo))) friend??? "As long as we ignore the very thing that prompted this thread to be created in the first place, it's obvious to anyone with a brain that this thread is patently retarded and totally wrong." Oh, what a rebuttal! Next up: There's ackkkshually a good chance that night will never fall again, just as long as the sun remains perched high in the sky and we ignore the fact that it's now quickly dropping down towards the horizon.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880475) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 7:33 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
The US might very well pass another Ukraine aid bill before the end of 2023. Did I ever claim otherwise? "Tick tock" doesn't mean "this ends tomorrow," Moishe. It only means that the writing is on the wall... and I note that you are still trying to ignore all of the links I posted above (none of which have anything to do with America btw) so that you pretend that my claim here was entirely predicated on actions undertaken by Kevin McCarthy and the U.S. House or whatever. Almost like you're a disingenuous little sniveling Pumo kike, engaging in extremely bad faith strawman argumentation tactics where you just studiously ignore anything that doesn't fit into your neat little worldview about this issue. Almost. ;)
It's amazing that you kikes think you're so fucking smart. I can't wait to watch this all go down and laugh and laugh and laugh at you guys when you are totally shocked -- SHOCKED! -- that the plug has finally been pulled. No, that would NEVER happen; Ukraine is going to WIN BIG, thanks to endless Western support, and Zelebsjyieve will push Russia out of his territory no matter what it takes or how long the war must wage on. Slava!!! Lol.
But hey, don't take it up with me -- I'm just a retard on the internet. Take it up with the hardcore Putinist propagandists who are shamelessly spreading this fake news in a transparent attempt to demoralize proud Ukrainians and spread lies about faltering Western support for their noble cause. You know, that cabal of disgusting fake and gay Kremlin stooges who leverage notoriously pro-Russian propaganda platforms like, uh...
The New York Times?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/11/world/europe/russia-momentum-ukraine.html
(???)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880524) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 7:45 PM Author: irradiated whorehouse
Did you really just poast an article from June of 2022 to argue that the momentum of the war favors Russia? ROFL! Were you just hoping that your bitch boi friends wouldn't actually click on the link so you could continue your little circle jerk?
If you are really interested in a response to your other links, I addresssed this elsewhere in the thread:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880517
Enjoy your copium, bitch boi.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880561) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:04 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
It's really amazing that he's still running around trying to act like we all just forgot about that and maybe we'll get nervous and second guess ourselves and be like "hmmmm... wow, I mean, idk, maybe he's right..." the next time he smugly calls us "retards" for disagreeing with him about something.
Juan, you are literally a short and brown ~85 IQ Guatemalan man and the entire bort just got finished laughing at an extremely low-IQ thread you made yesterday. Sit the fuck down.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880647) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 7:48 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Oh wow, you actually addressed one of the many links I've posted in this subthread. Care to address any others, or naw, that's OK, let's just keep talking about Kevin McCarthy?
And just to clarify, your argument on that link is that... it was printed in 2022 (you know back when the NYT actually *was* pro-Putin), so therefore we can ignore it and it was totally fake and gay and wrong? Wow, great response brother. You convinced me, Western support for Ukraine is truly boundless, Slava!
Just make sure you keep poasting as this all draws to end. Don't be a little cunt who sneaks away (even though you are and you will be, because you're a fucking Pumo and we all know that's why you're a Pumo in the first place).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880572) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:07 PM Author: irradiated whorehouse
Again, I addressed the other links upthread:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880517
As for the NYT article, yes, objectively Russia was gaining ground in June of 2022. What's your point? Since that article was published, Ukraine got a bunch of new western toys, retook Kherson and all of the Kharkiv region, and now they are knocking on the door of Tokmak. Or are you trying to say that because the NYT tries to report objective facts rather than just Ukrainian propaganda, somehow that means that Congress is going to stop funding Ukraine? I'm very confused here.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880667) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:49 PM Author: Tan Wonderful Tank Sweet Tailpipe
lol, moron
98% of supplies are coming in through Poland, and there’s less than zero chance that this will stop. Poland is US territory now
Pentagon has $6bn in unused funding, which is good for another 6 months. plenty of time to secure new funding to continue killing Russian mongrels
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880963) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 9:24 PM Author: Trip tanning salon lettuce
Hey, you should totally go to Poland and tell them that. If there's anything I know about Poles it is that they're a submissive people that aren't proud at all. They will totally just let the US run their shit.
"Pentagon has $6bn in unused funding, which is good for another 6 months. plenty of time to secure new funding to continue killing Russian mongrels"
¡Desafortunadamente para ti eso no es mucho dinero! ¡Como eres tan blanco pensé que podríamos conversar en tu idioma native!
https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-congress-funding-13727f76561a80d2f00267a13667c33a
"Pentagon Comptroller Michael McCord told House and Senate leaders there is $1.6 billion left of the $25.9 billion Congress provided to replenish U.S. military stocks that have been flowing to Ukraine."
"In addition, the U.S. has about $5.4 billion left to provide weapons and equipment from its stockpiles." (that scenario would mean the US would forego our own stocks for Ukraine, which it isn't clear we would do)
"McCord said the U.S. has completely run out of long-term funding for Kyiv through the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, which provides money to contract for future weapons"
Here's the very best part: "Many lawmakers acknowledge that winning approval for Ukraine assistance in Congress is growing more difficult as the war grinds on and resistance to the aid from the Republican hard-right flank gains momentum."
tl;dr - you're fucked, so is Ukraine.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46881182)
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 9:02 PM Author: Trip tanning salon lettuce
1) Russia is turning them into remote explosive vehicles. They pack them with explosives and blow them up remotely.
2) Ukraine is also fielding T-55s, except they're using them as tanks.
3) I'm not sure they've actually deployed any Abrams yet. But their L2s and Challengers were easily destroyed. The Abrams won't last either. And their numbers are tiny.
In b4 "LJL"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46881064) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:43 PM Author: low-t pale half-breed site
They had a battle tested military. Now they have a depleted and battle tested military.
The West proved shockingly effective at weaning off Russian energy supplies. Sure Russia is now a Chinese vassal and can sell to China and India and some others, but they absolutely have not gained as much as they lost in terms of global trade.
They lost a staggering quantity of young and educated people.
Population decline, already a major problem, will accelerate significantly.
I don’t know much about their MIC tbh. Presumably that has improved and they’ll work out the problems around obtaining previously western sourced components. So I’ll concede they’ve pivoted to a war footing, but I don’t think that’s beneficial for Russia long term. It’s fairly obvious after this debacle they can’t invade their way to their prior glory.
I’m sure even Putin wishes he hadn’t kicked off this whole thing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880918)
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 9:14 PM Author: Trip tanning salon lettuce
"Russia literally can’t even make artillery barrels"
lol what??? Thanks, this one really made me laugh.
For anyone wondering why, Russia inherited Soviet manufacturing which has good and bads. Good - they can manufacture endless supplies of things like artillery barrels, normal shells, etc. Bad - it is harder to pivot to newer things like PGMs, drones, and newer tech which doesn't have the infrastructure, though they're working through that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46881145) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 9:26 PM Author: irradiated whorehouse
ROFL! You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
Novaya-Europe’s source in Rostec says that the Armata and the 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV share the same problem regarding the gun system: Russia does not produce the required type of gun steel. Only two factories in Russia produce blanks for parts of the receiver group: the Motovilikha Plants in Perm and Barrikady, a machine manufacturing plant in Volgograd.
“Russia’s metal industry is dead,” our source says. “When a competition for barrel blanks was announced, all the samples put up for it turned out to be defective. The special thing about the new barrels is that they must withstand greater pressure, that is, be more durable. This requires special alloys and melting modes, as well as small-sized furnaces. The thing is: Russia’s metallurgy is focused on large volumes and mass grades of steel.
https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/11/02/the-barren-barrels-en
See also:
However, regardless of the ammunition situation, Russia has another problem: replacement barrels. High-quality artillery barrels can withstand firing 2,000-3,000 shots, sometimes more. Poor quality barrels can burst after just 1,000 rounds or fewer.
When Russian 152 mm howitzers are being called to lay down a few dozen rounds per day, they may require a new barrel after a month or two, or as little as every couple of weeks. At a firing rate of 20,000 rounds per day, Russia may be replacing as many as eight to 10 barrels daily. Russia may have needed around 3,000-4,000 replacement barrels per year, or somewhere around 6,000 barrels since the start of the conflict.
The problem for Russia is that domestic barrel production is likely extremely low... Motovilikha Plants in Perm and Barrikady in Volgograd Oblast are the only artillery barrel-making manufacturing plants remaining in Russia, which already limits production. Additionally, those factories need military-grade steel alloys to manufacture replacement barrels.
Putin chose to make a series of military reforms aimed at addressing the budget shortfalls of the Russian army, with a clear aim of maintaining the size of the Russian army at the expense of other aspects of Russian military readiness.
Among the sacrifices? Russia’s military-grade steel manufacturers. Russia had been subsidizing strategically important industries that could not otherwise compete with Western manufacturing, like electronic components, or small-batch high-quality military-grade steel.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/7/6/2179504/-Ukraine-Update-Russia-doesn-t-have-a-backup-plan-when-it-runs-out-of-artillery
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46881194) |
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Date: October 4th, 2023 1:24 AM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Ok you got me, Russia has (at best) 1/10 the ammo it did a year and a half ago. Sounds devastating for Russia!
…and yet, despite fighting a badly crippled enemy that has now taken multiple the casualties that Ukraine has taken (as you “proved” upthread LJL) and is running out of ammo, it would appear that Ukraine is struggling to make any headway and the much-vaulted “counteroffensive” is a failure. And this, despite (again as you “proved” upthread) the West still standing united behind it and happy to give it whatever it needs to achieve total victory. And let’s also not forget your friend TDNW’s claim — linked above — that manpower is absolutely no issue for mighty Ukraine, because they *literally* have endless waitlists of volunteers just dying to volunteer to go fight those Russian Orcs. I mean, he claims he actually lives in Kyieve and he definitely knows what’s really going on over there, so who are we to question him about that? Odd case… Ukraine is stacked and packed on all levels, so I guess maybe it’s actually Ukraine that wants to toy with its prey for awhile before going in for the final kill? Diabolical!
Or do you have a bunch of CNN links “proving” that ackkkkkkkshually, if you REALLY think about it, Ukraine is kicking ass and taking names and the much-vaulted “counteroffensive” against Russia is a great success?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46881987) |
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Date: October 4th, 2023 2:21 PM Author: frisky institution macaca
To be fair,
Weird how I haven't gotten a response yet on why Ukraine hasn't fucked Russia's shitpipe to hell in its "counteroffensive" over the last few months...
...even though in this very thread, Pumo and his compatriots allegedly "proved" that Russia is now a shell of its former self with only 1/10 the ammo it used to have and hundreds of thousands of able-bodied soldiers lying dead in the mud, while mighty Ukraine still remains absolutely stuffed to the gills with vital manpower and functionally endless stores of money and firepower in October 2023.
Oh, what a mystery!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46883884) |
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Date: October 4th, 2023 11:48 AM Author: Pearly Mexican Goal In Life
Date: October 3rd, 2023 8:50 PM
Author: Trump Did Nothing Wrong
Russia literally can’t even make artillery barrels, that’s why they are using ancient tanks as makeshift artillery
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46880972)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5417118&forum_id=2#46883142) |
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