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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
salmon fanboi circlehead
  12/16/25
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Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Bearded Metal Mood
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
salmon fanboi circlehead
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Bearded Metal Mood
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
salmon fanboi circlehead
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Bearded Metal Mood
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
salmon fanboi circlehead
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Bearded Metal Mood
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
salmon fanboi circlehead
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Bearded Metal Mood
  12/17/25
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Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit
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salmon fanboi circlehead
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
galvanic unhinged business firm alpha
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
salmon fanboi circlehead
  12/16/25
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galvanic unhinged business firm alpha
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
diverse dilemma double fault
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
salmon fanboi circlehead
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
startling azure associate
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
salmon fanboi circlehead
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
coral territorial pocket flask community account
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salmon fanboi circlehead
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Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Beady-eyed indecent pisswyrm
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Fluffy jade theater
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salmon fanboi circlehead
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Beady-eyed indecent pisswyrm
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Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit
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Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Bearded Metal Mood
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
exhilarant flesh center
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Bearded Metal Mood

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Bearded Metal Mood

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Bearded Metal Mood

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Bearded Metal Mood

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Bearded Metal Mood

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: galvanic unhinged business firm alpha

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: galvanic unhinged business firm alpha



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: diverse dilemma double fault

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: startling azure associate

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: coral territorial pocket flask community account

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Beady-eyed indecent pisswyrm

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Fluffy jade theater

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: salmon fanboi circlehead



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Beady-eyed indecent pisswyrm



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Bronze odious scourge upon the earth pit



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Bearded Metal Mood

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: exhilarant flesh center

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515738)