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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:21 PM Author: curious persian http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=106506
the chick actually comes on the board and makes herself look stupid |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:22 PM Author: buck-toothed box office way tl;dr summarize |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:25 PM Author: curious persian just read through the thread lol
basically some dude applied for a teaching job and got an email back from them saying we dont hire ppl who post on boards all day...then everyone was talking about how thats rude and what not, then the testmasters employee comes on and outs herself in a vindictive manner...no flame |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:25 PM Author: buck-toothed box office meh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004899) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:28 PM Author: curious persian lol my summary was definitely boring...the point of this thread is to spread word on how unprofessional they run their business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004929) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:30 PM Author: Orchid Locus Ape Link to the employee's posts in the thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004963) |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 4:32 PM Author: Insane principal's office half-breed fyi, the OP is a tool named Jason Maan who recently applied to become an LSAT instructor at TM and was rejected; he's been crying like a bitch about it to everyone he knows (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14056291) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:27 PM Author: Flatulent den deer antler How did they know the dude posted on boards all day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004920) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:30 PM Author: curious persian i guess he was scheduled for an interview and made a thread about the interview asking for tips and she/they realized it was him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004962) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:32 PM Author: Stimulating onyx property Hey guys! I see that our use of TLS to screen out undesirable instructor applicants has created quite a stir. When an instructor applicant makes posts on pre-law discussion boards attempting to game our interview process, we view that as a sign of bad character. Yesterday "John" started a thread under the screen name “XXXXXXXX” seeking information that he thought would help him give the "right" responses during the interview. After he received my email, he deleted the thread (in which he claimed that TestMasters techniques were "TTT") and called me claiming that he was "confused" by my email and denying he had ever posted anything on TLS. I told him the email was self-explanatory and the conversation ended right away.
I'm sure some of you will get a kick out of the email he sent me later that afternoon:
Dear Irina,
I am confused by this email and I was even more confused by your conduct when I called you to ask about it. I didn't expect such rudeness and condescension from an administrative assistant, especially one who contacted me for an interview.
Although you are no longer interested in interviewing me, and I am no longer interested in working for a company that employs people who lack basic social skills, I think my Catholic upbringing requires me to offer you some advice: When dealing with people, it's important to be tactful and respectful at all times. Aside from being the right thing to do, it is impossible to know when you may run into someone or need their help in the future. This is a lesson my parents taught me, which with you being raised by wolves, I assume wasn't imparted to you. Thank you for your time and I wish you the best.
Sincerely,
XXXXXXX
To be clear, I am the Programs Director at TM. My job is to ensure that our LSAT classes run properly and that our students and instructors are happy. I also serve as the point of contact for LSAT instructor applicants.
Oh, and "John" has a real name too, just like me. :)
Irina
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:33 PM Author: Stimulating onyx property she like dropped the guy's full name into the thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004995) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:35 PM Author: Orchid Locus Ape Sounds like a highly professional, trustworthy outfit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005016) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:36 PM Author: curious persian indeed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005027) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:37 PM Author: Orchid Locus Ape What state was this in? I wonder if disclosing a job applicant's emails publicly without consent like that is a violation of some employment law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005042) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:36 PM Author: Mentally impaired ticket booth Why it is a sign of bad character to ask for advice on what type of questions they ask? That's a sign of intelligence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005033) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:44 PM Author: green garrison personal credit line that's what i'm wondering. she accuses him of trying to game the interview process; did he ask anything besides what to expect? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005140) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:51 PM Author: Flatulent den deer antler She sounds like a dumb piece of shit. I hope she gets fired for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005218) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:53 PM Author: curious persian why i spread the thread over here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005234) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:54 PM Author: green garrison personal credit line when atl runs this (and they run anything that reaches their inbox) and it becomes a minor shitstorm, i wouldn't be surprised if she were. certainly she's not indispensable in her middling position (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005238) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:57 PM Author: Orchid Locus Ape her managers may be concerned that she'll start plastering private emails on the internet if she's terminated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005276) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 8:02 PM Author: green garrison personal credit line lol yeah
this bitch showed seriously fucked-up judgment: sending the vindictive email in the first place; sending it to someone whom you know posts on a ls message board, and is thus likely to share it on that board (particularly because it concerns the board); posting his follow-up email and outing him in that thread. how does any of that serve tm's interests? she's using her position to pwn people and get lulz in a way that threatens damaging her employer. what a fucking moron |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 8:04 PM Author: Flatulent den deer antler Credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005358) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 8:33 PM Author: curious persian lol google her name... Irina Lymar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005685) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2011 6:20 PM Author: Learning disabled transparent psychic background story http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/flame-war-testmasters-v--top-law-schools/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#17206767) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:06 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone ebony generalized bond holy shit, SHE posted HIS reply? what the FUCK. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018791) |
Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:24 PM Author: dull trip crackhouse I hated Testmasters. One of my instructors was aspie and literally couldn't teach though. The other was cool. I mainly taught myself, using LSAT books I ordered online & the practice materials. Wouldn't recommend it unless you know the instructor is worth the money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004885) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:27 PM Author: green garrison personal credit line "We have decided to cancel your interview and reject your application to work for us as an LSAT instructor. Applications are currently at an all-time high, and we do not have the time or resources to interview TTT candidates whose social lives consist of making thousands of posts on internet discussion boards. TestMasters only hires people who are cool, and unfortunately you do not meet that requirement."
lol |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:57 PM Author: Soul-stirring Library 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005272) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:27 PM Author: hairless alpha "people who are cool"
this bitch should kill herself |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:43 PM Author: Swashbuckling Citrine Skinny Woman Institution Abrasive much? That is piss poor judgment if I've ever seen it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14014715) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:52 PM Author: aromatic hell I think this is pretty legit. Good for her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14014826) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:54 PM Author: Swashbuckling Citrine Skinny Woman Institution What? This is extremely unprofessional and mean spirited. In what way was it laudable?
I can only imagine how her "candor" plays out when she's communicating with testmasters employees. |
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Date: February 5th, 2010 1:25 PM Author: excitant grizzly ladyboy lulz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14024343) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:28 PM Author: 180 hyperventilating black woman tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004927) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:30 PM Author: green garrison personal credit line i fucking hate that message board format (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004966) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:31 PM Author: 180 hyperventilating black woman The chick quoting John's email citing his Catholic upbringing was hilarious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14004980) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:38 PM Author: Mentally impaired ticket booth Do you think she understands the irony of her trolling law forums enough to recognize her interviewee when she calls him out for posting online? I'm guessing not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005059) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:41 PM Author: green garrison personal credit line i wonder what advice he sought about tm's interviews, since she accuses him of trying to game the interviews (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005109) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:45 PM Author: Mentally impaired ticket booth who knows, I don't even understand what her point was. I can't really imagine any prep work for an interview being unethical. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005153) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:48 PM Author: curious persian i dont think the guy couldve done anything unethical...but she was highly unethical in posting his name and email on a law school forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005176) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:52 PM Author: green garrison personal credit line and her email was completely, weirdly unprofessional: the use of TTT, and saying that they're canceling the interview because he's uncool. it smacks more of a desire to pwn him than to communicate a company decision.
i'm hoping (and somewhat expecting) that this will lead to a lulzy fallout. |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:56 PM Author: Flatulent den deer antler There may be a fallout. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005262) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:54 PM Author: Flatulent den deer antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005244) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:49 PM Author: green garrison personal credit line me neither, unless they make you solve a logic game and he wanted to know what bubbles to fill or some shit.
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 7:50 PM Author: Balding school cafeteria I bet it was MachoBreeze. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005204) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 8:13 PM Author: green garrison personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005489) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 8:55 PM Author: Sadistic bisexual area Can't believe no one has mentioned the irony of testmasters calling out someone for trying to game an interview when their entire company is based on giving people a somewhat unfair advantage in gaming a test. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14005951) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 9:05 PM Author: Orchid Locus Ape There's nothing unfair about what Testmasters does.
And they're free to reject applicants for seeking information about a confidential interview process.
The objectionable thing is the way the employee handled the situation, which is what people focused on. Hopefully someone will bring this to her supervisors' attention. |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 9:10 PM Author: Sadistic bisexual area Confidential interview process? People prepare for interviews all the time. Consulting gigs post sample questions. Career services lists all kinds of shit.
How is preparing for an interview any different than preparing for a test?
And imo, while what testmasters does is perfectly legal and acceptable, at the end of the day it creates unfair advantages for those who can afford test prep and somewhat defeats the purpose of a "standardized" test. |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 9:14 PM Author: Orchid Locus Ape Well I'm assuming they don't want people talking about their interviews, since the woman responded the way she did. So they're not like consulting companies that post sample questions or provide guides to career services offices.
"defeats the purpose of a "standardized" test."
Depends on how good the standardized test is at testing the skills it's designed to assess. For example, suppose a job requires people to have excellent mental math skills and makes applicants take a mental math test. Some private company has developed an expensive course that improves people's mental math skills significantly. People who can afford the course are at an advantage (whether the advantage is "fair" or not is debatable), but the test will still serve its purpose of finding candidates with strong mental math skills. |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 9:20 PM Author: Sadistic bisexual area "Well I'm assuming they don't want people talking about their interviews, since the woman responded the way she did."
Unless they specifically said not to discuss, which I'm assuming since the woman didn't mention it, they would have to be dumbasses to think people wouldn't prep for it or that they would want people who wouldn't prep for it.
" For example, suppose a job requires people to have excellent mental math skills and makes applicants take a mental math test. "
If you really think taking text masters makes people more intelligent and anything but slightly better at logical thinking you're a dumbass. It teaches them tricks on how to answer specific types of questions that they were too dumb figure out on their own. |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 9:32 PM Author: Orchid Locus Ape If it improves students' LR and RC scores, it makes them better at reading complicated text quickly. That's what law students do. If it improves their LG scores, it makes them better at productively sorting abstract information, and it probably improves their working memory too. The link between those skills and law school is more tenuous, I guess, but there is one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14006357) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 9:36 PM Author: Sadistic bisexual area "If it improves students' LR and RC scores, it makes them better at reading complicated text quickly."
No. It makes them like 60% at LSAT problems because they've seen so many and recognize the patterns. It would make them at best 2% better at reading other complicated texts and about 1% better at reading something like War and Peace.
Playing Mario Kart improves your working memory too, but if you practice you're going to get much better at Mario Kart and improve your working memory almost nil. |
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Date: February 3rd, 2010 9:55 PM Author: violet spectacular degenerate pwnage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14006646) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:23 AM Author: electric cheese-eating fortuitous meteor menage Prep courses like TM are completely unnecessary to do well, and they do not create an unfair advantage. Everything they teach is spelled out clearly in cheaply available books, e.g. the powerscore LG bible.
I mean sure, they provide value. But they aren't divulging any secrets. It's valuable like a housemaid is valuable. Rich people have an advantage because they have a housemaid and a chauffeur so they have more time to do other stuff. But you don't whine that this is an unfair advantage. A little extra work overcomes it. |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 4:51 PM Author: Swashbuckling Citrine Skinny Woman Institution titcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14014807) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:24 AM Author: electric cheese-eating fortuitous meteor menage This is pretty lulzy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14011431) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 5:09 PM Author: Mentally impaired ticket booth fucking TLS, took the fucking thing down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14015029) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 5:37 PM Author: Stimulating onyx property SOMEONE CAME BACK AT 3AM AND STARTED DROPPING THE KIDS REAL NAME, PHONE, EMAIL, UGRAD, AND CITY IN 100 DIFFERENT THREADS
it was unreal. has to be illegal |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:47 PM Author: vivacious theater mother She probably has a nice negligence suit waiting for her.
Kid may also have a due process damages claim against her. |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:53 PM Author: Talented bronze lay organic girlfriend Wow. Looks like they posted his whole CV (including entire employment history) on TLS. I wonder what his state's employment laws say about that. He should probably consult an employment lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14017964) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:56 PM Author: titillating ivory public bath associate I pray to God they can IP-pwn the bitch who did that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018677) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 6:49 PM Author: 180 hyperventilating black woman http://abovethelaw.com/2010/02/testmasters_and_top_law_schools_craziness.php (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14016070) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 8:06 PM Author: aqua twinkling uncleanness corn cake Ira, tbi tyt ectb? Kak dela? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14016840) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:57 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018011) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:58 PM Author: Glassy parlor regret their boycott wouldnt do shit but id say thats the biggest 0L site going right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018025) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:59 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018039) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:10 PM Author: Orchid Locus Ape I bet most applicants do a bit of research before plopping down $2000 for a prep course. TLS is the first non-TM result for a google search for the company's name. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018155) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:04 PM Author: Bearded spruce police squad private investor honestly, based on his e-mail response, the applicant didn't sound like a good fit for TM anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018085) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:05 PM Author: disrespectful stirring wagecucks the guys response was incredibly douchey. does TM style themselves as the "cool" test prep company? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018097) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:07 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018113) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:07 PM Author: disrespectful stirring wagecucks from what i've heard of the dude he seems like a faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018122) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:08 PM Author: Bearded spruce police squad private investor just reading the introduction to this article gives you an impression of TM's culture, i.e. Robin.
"Robin Singh has had a brutal week: His students have just received their scores from the recent Law School Admission Test (LSAT), and Singh has been providing emotional first aid, restoring bruised egos and fractured dreams of legal preeminence. But on this Saturday night, at the W Hotel in L.A., he's lounging--bottle-service style--with his TestMasters employees. In his torn jeans and loose suede shirt, surrounded by a dozen twentysomethings in floral button-downs and supersized belt buckles, the 38-year-old Singh doesn't come off as a standardized-test coach who has made millions teaching four-variable logic problems. He looks like a headliner at the Viper Room--and seems pretty happy with his own performance. Singh takes a slug of Johnnie Walker Blue Label and, in a conspiratorial aside says, "Kaplan's up to something." Kaplan is the industry monster, a national test-prep juggernaut known to every high-school senior (SAT), would-be grad student (GRE), and aspiring lawyer (LSAT) in the country. Kaplan also happens to be a Singh rival--and his former employer. So when Singh says Kaplan is up to something, it probably means Singh's up to something, too." http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/102/test-prince.html |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:11 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018171) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:13 PM Author: disrespectful stirring wagecucks did you teach for test masters in the past? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018183) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:15 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018212) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:17 PM Author: disrespectful stirring wagecucks lol. i wonder who is tasked with scouring the ls boards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018236) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:19 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018253) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:06 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018104) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:15 PM Author: Talented bronze lay organic girlfriend He sounds like a dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018213) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:17 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018235) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:18 PM Author: Talented bronze lay organic girlfriend It doesn't take a savant to master the lsat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018246) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:19 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018260) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:22 PM Author: Talented bronze lay organic girlfriend If by "deeper" you mean break down questions so dumbs can work through them in a flowchart-like manner, then I guess you're right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018289) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:25 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018330) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:27 PM Author: Talented bronze lay organic girlfriend I'm not knocking his success. I don't know him. But I don't consider him a savant for mastering the LSAT, which is a pretty ttt test anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018364) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:28 PM Author: Hideous Brunch Dingle Berry i kind of envy his life actually. i wouldn't mind dropping out of ls if i could do what he has done. but that may be more a product of my hating LS than anything else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018374) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:30 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018392) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:40 PM Author: Hideous Brunch Dingle Berry well,
1) i like teaching 2) wouldn't mind owning my own business 3) and i'm not very ambitious
so robin's gig sounds perfect to me. different strokes i guess. |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:25 PM Author: disrespectful stirring wagecucks dumbs are the people who get the most benefit out of those classes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018338) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:31 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018403) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:45 PM Author: Hideous Brunch Dingle Berry TM gets a lot of high scorers amongst its students just by the sheer size of its student body. i took a TM class back in 2006 and there were 80+ people in my class, and most were dumbs who had no chance of getting into a good LS, even after the class.
edit: not saying it's not a good course, but saying that it's very easy for TM to create the impression that they cultivate high scorers, because they have a lot of students to produce high scorers from. doesn't mean any particular student will be one of them. |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:47 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018583) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:50 PM Author: Hideous Brunch Dingle Berry true, i was in LA, so that might have skewed my impression of TM's popularity, since they were basically the top option there at the time. BP was either fledgling or not founded yet, I can't remember which. robin was also teaching a class at the same time that was even larger than mine, i think over 100. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018610) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:53 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018637) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:54 PM Author: titillating ivory public bath associate I took TM near a huge public university with more than 30000 undergrads, and the class had 8 students. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018660) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:55 PM Author: Glassy parlor regret Kaplan was on The Office. thats saying something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018667) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:56 PM Author: disrespectful stirring wagecucks i think they accept instructors who get a 163 on the test (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018681) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:57 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018691) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:00 PM Author: Hideous Brunch Dingle Berry Everyone I knew at the time who was serious about law school told me to take TM. Now that I think back, BP was already founded in 2006, because I remember looking at their website and considering it, but their course was both more expensive and small/unknown.
Of course in the years after that, BP's reputation/word of mouth increased dramatically. By the time I left LA i knew more people taking BP than TM. |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:02 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018746) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:03 PM Author: titillating ivory public bath associate it's pretty obvious that he was wronged (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018760) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:06 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018783) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:07 PM Author: titillating ivory public bath associate fuck Robin Singh, but the BP founders are liars and thieves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018795) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:10 PM Author: Bearded spruce police squad private investor http://www.blueprintblues.info/default.aspx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018822) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:12 PM Author: Hideous Brunch Dingle Berry yea, that smear campaign was after i had left LA, but i followed it casually (and with amusement) on various message boards. iirc TM also made a website with a bunch videos of the blueprint people being deposed. funny stuff, and i still have no idea who was right or wrong (and don't really care), but there was a serious pissing match going on from both sides that kind of made me lose respect for both companies.
on a related note, i have friends in law school that have taught for both companies and they are great people. i think it's mostly the people at the top who made things ugly. |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:32 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019073) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:58 PM Author: Hairraiser business firm crotch Who cares about this bullcrap. get a life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018023) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 9:59 PM Author: disrespectful stirring wagecucks for real. please link me to the latest niggerthread/cock size thread. i need to discuss important things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018034) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 10:48 PM Author: hairless alpha lol
well played sir |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:04 PM Author: effete glittery parlour national security agency That was reckless of Irina. She may be shown the door for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018771) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:33 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019082) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:35 PM Author: lemon up-to-no-good patrolman did he sanction openly insulting them in a way that would reach a shit ton of prospective customers through numerous internet blogs and forums (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019100) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:36 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019111) |
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Date: February 5th, 2010 9:34 AM Author: Glassy parlor regret robin is a narcissistic aspie of epic proportions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14022777) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:09 PM Author: lemon up-to-no-good patrolman what an asshole, i cant imagine thats all right with the company. a lot of their customers are losers who post on message boards all day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14018817) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:31 PM Author: twisted indian lodge hominid she acted stupidly. lulz.
also, i have met robin singh and i am a FAN of testmasters. there. i said it. |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:36 PM Author: Cowardly senate How many T6 aspies who were shut out at OCI are fighting to get teaching jobs with TM right now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019119) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:42 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019201) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:44 PM Author: Cowardly senate Holy shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019230) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:46 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019252) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:51 PM Author: Medicated church building What was wrong with them? Aspie? Fugly? URM? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019324) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:55 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019407) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:52 PM Author: flushed mewling location LAW IS AWESOME
Study for LSAT --> Pay 200K --> Attend HYS --> Take Bar Exam --> Study for LSAT again so you can teach it. |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:53 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019373) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:55 PM Author: flushed mewling location I feel terrible for those fellas, but you just made me LOL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019400) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:55 PM Author: Cowardly senate Why does TM care if the score is expired? Isn't scoring 99th percentile once good enough? Do their regular instructors have to re-take the test every five years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019412) |
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Date: February 4th, 2010 11:57 PM Author: Burgundy Idiotic Station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019434) |
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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:10 AM Author: Hideous Brunch Dingle Berry wow, that sucks. i got a 176 on the actual LSAT. a year later i was bored and took a preptest for kicks, i got like a 165 or something (and i was actually trying). i'm sure i could get back up there with a little effort but studying for that test again is just not something that appeals to me. and having to study so that i could teach the LSAT after graduating from a T6 would be incredibly depressing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14019645) |
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Date: February 5th, 2010 8:59 AM Author: Soggy kitchen I like how he referred to her as an administrative assistant, and she couldn't help correcting the record. Pwned! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14022689) |
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Date: February 5th, 2010 12:47 PM Author: Vengeful New Version Incel Robin has a tendency to sue first, ask questions later... but has the guy ever won anything? From all appearances, he got his ASS handed to him by Blueprint. For someone apparently SO SMART, man is he fucking dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14024088) |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 4:35 PM Author: Insane principal's office half-breed well, BP currently owes him over $2 million in court judgments, so I guess he won that unless they can get it overturned on appeal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211502&forum_id=2#14056305) |
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here's their contact info. can we start an xoxo campaign to email/call them? |