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Used chat GPT for a cross examination, HO LEE FUCK
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:10 AM Author: Carmine brethren Did it to plan out my cross examination, what used to take me 6 hours to prep I was able to do in 20 minutes. If you’re a lawyer whose job is safe in that you actually have to go to court, this is going to be a game changer in the next 10 years. After that they’ll probably have digital lawyers and we’re all fucked but this is amazing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907507) |
Date: May 6th, 2025 8:13 AM Author: electric honey-headed parlour Explain the process.
Like do you have it read a deposition then ask it for questions on cross? Or what? |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:17 AM Author: Carmine brethren So I will say Write me a cross examination for a case involving XYZ (very specific as in write two to three paragraphs summarizing the case). This case is in Southern District of New York before Judge Francis. The witness I’m cross examining is XYZ (very specific). I anticipate that he will say XYZ.
Every single time there are 2-3 questions I’m like shit I never even thought to go that route.
Then you have a skeleton and just sort of tweak it. It will literally pull things from past cases that this specific judge ruled and tailor your cross. In less than 5 seconds. Unbelievable. |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:22 AM Author: electric honey-headed parlour Interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907527) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:23 AM Author: Carmine brethren Try it as a goof right now and see what I mean. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907529) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:25 AM Author: electric honey-headed parlour I don’t “litigate” but I’ll try to think of a way to try something similar soon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907533) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:27 AM Author: Carmine brethren Got it. We used to hire “law students” to do all the grunt work for us. We would always have to heavily edit their shit although they did a very good autistic job of giving us a framework. I would say out of 10 if the lawstudent’s work product was a 3 this is an 8. Still need to edit but not as much. And I don’t have to wait a week for the law student to get it to me. Just 12 seconds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907535) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:19 AM Author: dull regret you don't "litigate"? HUGE Goytell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907653) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:28 AM Author: Henna infuriating home I’m not a lolyer but this sounds 180, especially with pulling stuff from the specific judge’s past rulings (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907536) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:29 AM Author: Carmine brethren It’s insane. And this is the free one. I bet the “deep” search or whatever that you pay for is even better. If they make one specific for law “like ChatGpt Lawyer” or something it’s going to be fuckin insane.
A long way from law school when some 28 year old law librarian pedophile would teach you how to do physical key notes in those gold law books even though there was online westlaw. |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:31 AM Author: clear razzle stead nowag I will caution you against getting too excited when AI pulls in information from other sources. You should verify that info elsewhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907541) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:35 AM Author: Carmine brethren Of course. See above. I look at this as a first rough draft some paralegal or first year lawyer gave me. Instead of waiting for the paralegal to give it to me a week later after scrolling through instagram and having a mental breakdown bc her psych pills are late, I can get a rough draft in 12 seconds—a draft that’s 3x better than the paralegal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907555) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:36 AM Author: clear razzle stead nowag Oh OK, that's cool. I work around a lot of people who just accept everything ChatGPT shits out without questioning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907564) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:35 AM Author: bull headed alcoholic rehab (Partner) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907559) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:59 AM Author: Judgmental Shrine Circlehead (95yo boomer of counsel about to be soylented) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907618) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:03 AM Author: razzmatazz iridescent round eye Litigator myself here. What does the judge’s prior rulings have to do with drafting a cross? Shouldn’t you be doing motions in limine before trial on any threshold evidentiary issues relevant to the cross? I don’t get this thread one bit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907626) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:06 AM Author: Carmine brethren I don’t mean it cites. I’m saying it tailors the responses you want out of the witness. There will be a parenthetical citing Judge Francis ruled ABC in a certain case. Also this entire thread is flame I’m not even a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907631) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:12 AM Author: razzmatazz iridescent round eye Obviously OP was flame. Amazing XO morons didn’t see this a mile away until I did. |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:14 AM Author: Carmine brethren Yeah it had legs lol. Shows how many lawyers are actually on XO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907643) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:15 AM Author: razzmatazz iridescent round eye CR.
The fact that there was no mention of the deposition transcript is also pretty bad flame. |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:16 AM Author: Carmine brethren Yeah I got a 171 and decided not to go: lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907650) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:18 AM Author: razzmatazz iridescent round eye This shitboart is full of unthinking retards who believe anything and have no critical thinking ability. Shows you how easy it will be for AI to take over society. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907652) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:21 AM Author: Carmine brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907668) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:27 AM Author: orchid massive degenerate business firm whats ur take on AI's impact on LAW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907697) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:31 AM Author: razzmatazz iridescent round eye Between dumb boomers, the profession’s historically good job at protectionism and how utterly horrible AI is for legal work at this point; I think it’s a non issue for at least the next 5-10 years. Beyond then, who the fuck knows. The whole world is going to look very different in 5-10 years and I don’t know what to think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907703) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:39 PM Author: flushed stubborn fat ankles center sounds 180. can you think of (or have the AI think of) a fictional example to illustrate your point, where it brings up 2-3 angles you hadn't even thought of? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48908413) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: razzmatazz iridescent round eye low iq schtick? OP said this was all flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48908444) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:54 PM Author: flushed stubborn fat ankles center if it's flame why not keep it going? and it's not like it's crazy to imagine chatgpt doing a great job on brainstorming for cross ideas (provided that someone still needs to carefully review output). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48908848) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 4:01 PM Author: aromatic potus you're talking to DBG who is notoriously devoid of a sense of humor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48908876) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:32 AM Author: Tan temple double fault AI's legal work can be hit or miss, but so can lawyers'. The real wild part, as you point out, is that it does the work in a matter of minutes or seconds.
The only thing preserving law jobs at this point is that normies do not understand our "magic" and feel comforted by our priestly presence, and are willing to pay for it.
But this is like old boomers still using travel agents or something. Won't last the death of a generation.
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:36 AM Author: Carmine brethren Correct. It’s like Wikipedia when it first came out: “Don’t use it as a primary source!” Or “Wikipedia bad!”
Now it’s the go-to. I view this as the same way. Double check of course; but for time purposes it’s amazing. |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:47 AM Author: Provocative umber national Lol no wikipedia is still zog garbage but we found the libkike! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907586) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:36 AM Author: adventurous lay sound barrier It's really impressive. Obviously, the morons will just cut and paste. But as you note, the added value is (1) massive time save for the bulk of work, and (2) it gives you ideas you never thought of or it helps hone things. You still have to have a brain to make it truly 180 but it makes it much, much simpler for a person with a brain to get to 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907561) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:43 AM Author: Carmine brethren Oh yeah. And people underestimate how important the prompts are. That’s what still gives me faith that intelligent people will still win. You need to break it down to the specifics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907576) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:53 PM Author: racy corner I love using it for brainstorming various things and generating drafts of some routine correspondence. It's still really bad at most serious legal writing. It does standard boilerplate reasonably well, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48908473) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:40 AM Author: bull headed alcoholic rehab Sounds like quality of life is going to take a nosedive for a lot of people. That'll be fired because computer is better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907569) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:43 AM Author: Carmine brethren To an extent. But I think we are ways away from intelligent people getting fucked. You still need creativity with the prompts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907577) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:45 AM Author: aromatic potus Johnsmeyer beelining to C-suite as "poasting" becomes most in-demand skill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907578) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:45 AM Author: Henna infuriating home 18000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907582) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:40 AM Author: Charismatic Flatulent Ticket Booth Cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907570) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:47 AM Author: orchid massive degenerate business firm transactional "lawyers" are FUCKED (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907585) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:19 AM Author: dull regret OFS. But then again, we are all fuarked |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:54 PM Author: racy corner In the long run, AI comes for us all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48908476) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 4:03 PM Author: fluffy nursing home surprisingly, "litigators" are going to have the last laugh. Their job is easier with AI, and I imagine its going to be a long long time before "AI" is really allowed in any aspect of litigating other than research and drafting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48908885) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 1:22 PM Author: Buck-toothed abode goyim To be fair,
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5720598&forum_id=2#48905896 |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 8:53 AM Author: Carmine brethren Thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907600) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 3:55 PM Author: walnut vivacious dog poop area how does this not hallucinate? do they force it to run the prompt 100x and make sure it passes 99 checks that its not making a cite up? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48908849) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:11 AM Author: appetizing ruddy internal respiration please sir, how will you bill this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907640) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:43 AM Author: Carmine brethren As stated above this thread is flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907733) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 9:47 AM Author: vermilion brunch useless brakes Probably move to a concept of billing "imputed human labor hours" for AI slop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48907736) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:55 PM Author: azure market pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721011&forum_id=2#48908241) |