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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
aqua startling regret deer antler
  12/16/25
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Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
aqua startling regret deer antler
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
aqua startling regret deer antler
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
aqua startling regret deer antler
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
aqua startling regret deer antler
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness
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Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend
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aqua startling regret deer antler
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Big deep address people who are hurt
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
aqua startling regret deer antler
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Big deep address people who are hurt
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Passionate twinkling spot voyeur
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
aqua startling regret deer antler
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
sable dashing area
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
aqua startling regret deer antler
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
swashbuckling outnumbered jew
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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aqua startling regret deer antler
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swashbuckling outnumbered jew
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Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend
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Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Light Kitty
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Big deep address people who are hurt

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Big deep address people who are hurt



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Passionate twinkling spot voyeur

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: sable dashing area

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: cracking gaping parlor

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: swashbuckling outnumbered jew

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: hideous peach church building useless brakes

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: aqua startling regret deer antler



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: swashbuckling outnumbered jew



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Claret pocket flask organic girlfriend



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Vermilion At-the-ready Messiness

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Light Kitty

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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