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What’s the Definitive Civil War 2.0 Rifle and Handgun Starter Combo
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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:33 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620102) |
Date: July 16th, 2020 9:36 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Garrison Shitlib Full size Glock and an AR-15 obv - do you need a specific model? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620112) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:41 PM Author: White Mewling Rehab So obviously cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620131) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:57 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad yes ty, with attachments or accessories you recommend also (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620217) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:38 PM Author: Alcoholic reading party ratface Ruger 556 S&W M&P Sport II
Either of those are good entry rifles
Get a flashlight (surefire or streamlight) and attach it to the handguard. Get a red dot sight and a sling. Buy lots of magazines and ammo |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:41 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Garrison Shitlib cosigned. holosun has lots of decent quality affordable red dot options (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620410) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:45 AM Author: bateful address corn cake Specifically the holosun 510c (either red or green optics) plus their 3x magnifier (that can swivel out of the way for close quarters). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620794) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:48 AM Author: bateful address corn cake If you're going to war (and have the money), then get all the battle-tested stuff. For just shooting around, I dont see why the Chinese clones that cost about 1/5 or 1/10 the cost arent good enough.
Get some chinese led light clones. You can use the money towards ammo and mags instead. |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:31 PM Author: Magenta French Philosopher-king I drive an American made car and buy American made guns 🇺🇸 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622364) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:38 PM Author: Excitant Church Building Boltzmann a .308 or .30-06 rifle with a decent scope and a bipod and an accurate dope chart that you develop at the range is an absolutely essential item for civil conflicts. then start getting into tungsten carbide ammunition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620124) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:41 PM Author: White Mewling Rehab Lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620133) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:23 PM Author: Alcoholic reading party ratface Where the fuck are you going to set up sniping people in a dense urban area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620359) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:25 PM Author: wine razzle cuckold Especially where the fuck are you going to be sniping people and not immediately be overrun by a horde of niggers with machetes?
The coming civil war is going to have a lot more in common with Chechnya, Serbia/Yugoslavia, and to some extent Syria than subthread OP's fantasy. Just a bloody grind of MOUT and house by house clearing of blocks one at a time. |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:48 PM Author: Alcoholic reading party ratface Cr also definitely buy a machete as backup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620437) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:28 PM Author: provocative sadistic stead In any real civil war you either geographically entrench with your common sect or you flee.
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:40 PM Author: wine razzle cuckold That's at the start, but you need to be able to take territory back from your opponent at some point in time. Unless you think ceding all the major cities is a viable long term strategy (spoiler alert: it's not). Read a history book. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622422) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:56 PM Author: provocative sadistic stead I'm talking about non combatant civilians. i.e. What everyone on this shit board would be. In reality 90% would flee any territory that truly collapsed. But in the event you chose to stay in your white boomer exurb you are protecting your neighborhood and not taking territory. With the exception if your neighborhood defense militia decides to start attacking territory but very likely there won't be the man power or will for that.
Other exception is you join a true centralized combatant network but that will also never happen in the United states because there will always bee some semblance of military to hold and engage crucial territory.
Ultimately you either live in a coastal city you flee or die in until it gets under federal control or you live in an interior city population center that has degraded public safety to extent organized black criminals start killing and extorting with impunity until peace framework is formed, likely with same criminals taking prominent role in local government. In that case you flee to exurbs and hold with previous mentioned band of white boomers and shoot it out with whoever drives out there for loot.
Then long, long term, assuming full collapse you go to agro self defense commune and de facto independent territories end up forming along city, rural divide. But this is not going to happen and you (any xo poster) will likely flee to Argentina or Europe by this point. |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 1:12 PM Author: wine razzle cuckold This is pure fantasy, read about how shit actually went down in Yugoslavia. That's probably the closest thing to a full on race war that we have seen in modern times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622609) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 1:39 PM Author: provocative sadistic stead I know how it went down in Yugoslavia. The ones who could flee did and the others were subjugated by militias. Bosnia and Serbia are also the size of Michigan with a couple major cities. Reality is you will either run or die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622732) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:30 PM Author: Garnet fat ankles Hypothetically, a rural based movement would need to siege cities, starve them into submission, take key prisoners, then leave. You're not going to take and hold philadelphia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641302) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:54 AM Author: provocative sadistic stead They don't need to siege them the cities will starve on their own when the countryside stops exporting them food. Are there enough rats to feed 2 million people in Philly? Maybe. Not for long though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644146) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:05 AM Author: wine razzle cuckold Just wait until foreign powers try to Berlin Airlift the cities. Dropping in food and medicine might work but it also might turn into Somalia with feral nigs hoarding supplies and building warring factions which plays in the rural favor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644184) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:25 AM Author: provocative sadistic stead That's almost certainly what will happen in these circumstances. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644268) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 2:28 PM Author: Garnet fat ankles The cities will absolutely need to be sieged. Most large cities (ie the lib industrial base). After a month of food (and Chinese goods) deprivation any major city will implode with refugees flocking outwards and local power brokers fighting over what is left.
Air interdiction would be a key part of any siege though major airports are generally located outside oof major cities. |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:52 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen uhhhhh there was a shitton of sniping there, this entirely supports subthread OP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143739) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:53 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen This is CR, but secondary to what I listed below (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143742) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2022 2:08 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#45052613) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:45 PM Author: Alcoholic reading party ratface A Glock 17 and an AR-15 with a shit ton of 30 round magazines (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620150) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 10:28 PM Author: Talented poppy rigpig multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620368) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:45 AM Author: bateful address corn cake Wonder why 40 round mags aren't more popular (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620796) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:47 AM Author: Razzmatazz pale bawdyhouse pervert 20-rounders are 180 too but they're usually harder to find or more expensive than 30's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620803) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:49 AM Author: Alcoholic reading party ratface Too long, particularly for prone shooting. Theyre also relatively new, at least the reliable magpul ones
20s are good shooting on a bench |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 7:54 PM Author: White Mewling Rehab The higher the capacity the more likely they are to fail (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40624407) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 8:45 PM Author: Talented poppy rigpig multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40624582) |
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Date: July 16th, 2020 11:03 PM Author: Razzmatazz pale bawdyhouse pervert good thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620505) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:42 AM Author: Tantric bistre chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40620786) |
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Date: October 30th, 2021 8:52 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#43356805) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:53 AM Author: bateful address corn cake Glock 17 (bigger hands) or 19 (if you want to conceal carry)
Ar15, get one with the rail mounting - cheap flash light - cheap sling
If you have extra funds: - holosun 510c (circle dot) - holosun 3x magnifier
If you have 10k to spare, and this is the only "game changer" attachment - pvs-14 white phosphor night vision optics - helmet to mount the optics - laser illuminator for your gun |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:33 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen CR! LPVO with offset is superior to dot/reflex + magnifier though -- wayyyy easier to ID targets, especially in actual fighting environments (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143635) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:10 PM Author: Ruby Cuckoldry Meetinghouse Body armor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622251) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:11 PM Author: plum embarrassed to the bone pocket flask associate yeah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622266) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:36 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen fuck yes, get Hesco (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143651) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:17 PM Author: Magenta French Philosopher-king I own a spring field armory saint with 30 round magazines. One M&P 9mm and one ez shield for concealed carry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622291) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:17 PM Author: plum embarrassed to the bone pocket flask associate so you own a single 30 round mag? lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622295) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:20 PM Author: Magenta French Philosopher-king Not sure how you got that from my post but no, I own 3 30 round magazines for it. 3 17 round magazines for the 9 and 2 7 or 8 round magazines for the shield. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622311) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:21 PM Author: plum embarrassed to the bone pocket flask associate I just skimmed and didn't see the "s" at the end of magazine. But you should buy more mags. More mags = more better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622315) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:24 PM Author: Magenta French Philosopher-king Definitely. I bought a magazine loader which is great for the range and has made it easy to reload there so I haven’t really focused on buying more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40622328) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:37 PM Author: Alcoholic reading party ratface Tip: Put you ammo in stripper clips for storage and easy reload
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIl_j1pCxfg |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:06 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641478) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 1:17 AM Author: self-absorbed useless piazza blood rage mmm I love strippers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643157) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 12:25 PM Author: silver curious affirmative action AK-47 228 compact Body armor 2 nades |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 6:20 PM Author: thriller sinister house preventive strike I have Springfield hellcat now, considering getting some sort of 357 magnum revolver and a shotgun. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40624027) |
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Date: July 17th, 2020 6:24 PM Author: Glassy bisexual quadroon if you don't have a perimeter lined with claymores and a .50 machine gun covering all angles of approach from the roof you might as well take a handful of tylenols and chug some vodka. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40624037) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:33 PM Author: Crystalline Cerebral New Version Location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641307) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 5:45 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641080) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:40 PM Author: bateful address corn cake M1 Garand + 1911 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641345) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:46 AM Author: Kink-friendly dull people who are hurt This, with fixed bayonet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644110) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 8:09 PM Author: floppy corner mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646514) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 8:46 PM Author: Kink-friendly dull people who are hurt Imagine being in the battle of round top: the Johnny rebs from Alabama charging at u with their yell and your commanding officer: a college professor from some place called Bowdoin ordering u to fix bayonets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646648) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:12 PM Author: bateful address corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649251) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:19 PM Author: Kink-friendly dull people who are hurt Don’t fire at the enemy til u r close enuf to see the whites in their eyes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649282) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:42 PM Author: bateful address corn cake Aug + H&K usp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641357) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:48 PM Author: bateful address corn cake Scar + mk23 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641381) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:52 PM Author: Umber round eye For me it appears to be waiting eternally for my gun purchase permit to get through despite gun stores already being empty. Thanks NJ, you worthless POS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641405) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:56 PM Author: plum embarrassed to the bone pocket flask associate sup TMF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641426) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:57 PM Author: Umber round eye Winner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641430) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:58 PM Author: plum embarrassed to the bone pocket flask associate what gun did you buy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641436) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 6:59 PM Author: Umber round eye Wtf, I literally gave my status update above. I'm in month 2 of waiting for a purchase permit. No end in sight. Right to keep and bear arms my ass. At this rate it will be 2021 before I'm able to buy anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641441) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:02 PM Author: plum embarrassed to the bone pocket flask associate lol you have to get a "permit" from the state to buy a gun? did you have to pay for it? |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:03 PM Author: Umber round eye Yes.
Yes.
And they shut down the permitting process because COVID for a while until they got sued so now there's a backlog. fml. |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:06 PM Author: plum embarrassed to the bone pocket flask associate do you have to pay for the permit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641473) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 12:43 AM Author: Umber round eye Yes, you do. You pay for both fingerprinting and the permit itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643021) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:11 AM Author: plum embarrassed to the bone pocket flask associate isn't this a poll tax? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644210) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:27 AM Author: Umber round eye Huh? Even I don't think this is a poll tax. This is more of a use tax than a poll tax. Similar to hunting/fishing licenses.
Also, I would have paid $500+ if I could have gotten this done ASAP instead of months of waiting. |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:40 AM Author: dashing hospital sandwich mine is a non-refundable $430 just to apply for the permit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644339) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 3:47 PM Author: Umber round eye jfc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40645445) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:41 AM Author: dashing hospital sandwich same here, still waiting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644085) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 8:59 PM Author: Umber round eye How long have you waited so far? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646712) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:20 PM Author: dashing hospital sandwich many months. NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649297) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:34 PM Author: Umber round eye Oof. Good luck. Honestly, I can't imagine staying in NYC at this point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649362) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2020 2:34 PM Author: dashing hospital sandwich residential neighborhoods are still fine.
i'm happy as fuck that i'm a renter though. i can't imagine owning a place here right now. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2020 2:41 PM Author: Umber round eye I'd still gtfo even if you don't see people getting beat down today. If shit happens and you have to defend yourself the entire system will be against you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40650086) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2020 8:23 PM Author: dashing hospital sandwich honestly that's true anywhere, even in red america (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40651996) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:51 PM Author: bateful address corn cake Wtf
Didn’t the xoSCOTUS tell the urban cities to go fuck themselves with hand guns ban in Heller? So they just restrict in other ways? |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:08 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143864) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:01 PM Author: Lemon field partner All you really need is a Russian passport and the VDV. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641449) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:04 PM Author: plum embarrassed to the bone pocket flask associate ^ Are Reptile (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641462) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:04 PM Author: Umber round eye Just be honest and say "I would flee to Israel" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641465) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:07 PM Author: Lemon field partner I really like what the Czar has done in Crimea, bro. It’s a lovely place to retire while Yankeestan burns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641480) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 12:44 AM Author: Umber round eye Tel Aviv, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643024) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:15 AM Author: Razzmatazz pale bawdyhouse pervert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643481) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 12:44 AM Author: Puce stage mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643025) |
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Date: July 21st, 2020 7:04 PM Author: Beta church deer antler Guns are all sold out, sorry bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40641466) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 12:45 AM Author: Puce stage mental disorder Armsel Striker 12, MAC-10 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40643030) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 3:48 PM Author: Umber round eye Ah, the good ol' street sweeper... Also, both are NFA firearms, so normal people can't get them today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40645448) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 1:39 AM Author: Tantric bistre chad Help me decide between Sig M400 vs. MP sport 2, will I regret this combo or is it good entry level
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 10:32 AM Author: Alcoholic reading party ratface Sigm400 is more quality than the M&P Sport II but both are great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644049) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 1:56 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad ty, im gonna grab this andglock 17 and grab bump stocks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644964) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:37 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen bumps are now illegal but they're not very good anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143654) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2020 11:21 PM Author: Magenta French Philosopher-king Buy american 🇺🇸 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40652937) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:37 AM Author: startled lettuce stag film Hot take - buy a Ruger 10/22 to at least have something to a.) PRACTICE with and b.) have a rifle that you can cheaply stock tons of ammo and dump a lot of indiscriminate rounds. Minimal stopping power but don't underestimate how quickly people will BTFO once they've been shot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40644316) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 2:08 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Garrison Shitlib If you can only choose one gun there are plenty of strong arguments for that gun to be a Ruger 10/22. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40645006) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:15 PM Author: Alcoholic reading party ratface Ruger 10/22 plus ammo plus as many 25/110 round rotary magazines as you can carry is def TCR for only one gun when the world ends
https://gunmagwarehouse.com/german-sport-guns-gsg-ruger-10-22-sr-22-22lr-110-round-rotary-drum-magazine.html |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:16 PM Author: diverse brunch french chef i wonder how often that jams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646034) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:23 PM Author: Alcoholic reading party ratface watched a few videos and it apparently holds up remarkably well
note the review rating too |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 11:29 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Garrison Shitlib Shameless plug for Paul Harrell who is an 180 gun loving autist:
https://youtu.be/Fcga_efvk_Q |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:41 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646131) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143642) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2020 6:27 PM Author: clear boiling water 1000 copies white fragility (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40646064) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:13 PM Author: Electric narrow-minded range dragon AR-15 + 357 Magnum for me. Perfect combo of all the power you need and reliability (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#40649255) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2020 12:46 PM Author: diverse brunch french chef which .357? I have the 7 round model 686. so much more accurate (or I am) and enjoyable to shoot compared to a striker fired glock.
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Date: October 3rd, 2020 4:18 AM Author: Tantric bistre chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41038129) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen The following items and brands are ranked in order: • an AR from one of the following: - Knight's Armament (KAC) - Lone Star Armory - Cobalt Kinetics - American Defense Manufacturing - BG Defense (also known as Type A Rifles) - Fierce Arms - Triarc - Era3 - JP Enterprises (mostly competition guns, but my god do they shoot well) - V Seven - Barrett - Noveske - Hodge Defense - FIMS Manufacturing - Radian - Lewis Machine Tool (LMT) - Heckler and Koch - LaRue - Centurion Arms - White Oak Armament - Salient Arms - Geissele - Wilson Combat - Daniel Defense - NEMO Arms - Sig Sauer MCX Virtus or LT - Sionics - Watchtower Firearms / F1 - Primary Weapons Systems - Patriot Ordnance Factory (POF) - Barnes Precision Machine - Christensen Arms - Precision Reflex - Sons Of Liberty Gunworks (SOLGW) - Lantac - Seekins Precision - LWRC - Cheytac USA - HM Defense - Black Rain Ordnance - Texas Shooter's Supply - Springfield Armory Saint Edge - Bravo Company Manufacturing (BCM) - Midwest Industries - Tactical Edge Arms - CMMG - Faxon - Ballistic Advantage - Turner Armament - Springfield Armory Saint Victor - Sig Sauer M400 Tread (everything below this is last resort) - PSA Custom - Radical Firearms RF-15 SOCOM - Rock River Arms - Aero Precision - Del-Ton - All other PSA - Diamondback Tactical - Daytona Tactical
Main things are to get a barrel between 11.5" and 16" (preferably as short as possible), with 1:7 or 1:8 twist rate, a rail system capable of mounting attachments, and the best trigger and optics you can afford.
ATTACHMENTS: ----- sling: Ferro Slingster, VTAC, Vickers Tactical, Blue Force, Frank Proctor ----- spare mags: ETS, Magpul, Troy, Lancer ----- Low Power Variable Optic (LPVO): Vortex, Leupold, Nightforce, EOtech, Schmidt & Bender, Kahles, Steiner, Atibal, Primary Arms (BUDGET, but great reticle) ----- offset red dot or reflex: Aimpoint, EOtech, Leupold, Trijicon, Holosun ----- light: Modlite, Surefire, Arisaka, Streamlight ----- forward grip: BCM, Magpul, Daniel Defense, Arisaka ----- pistol grip: B5 Systems, BCM, Magpul ----- stock: B5 Systems, BCM, Magpul • a Glock, Sig P320X, CZP10, M&P 2.0, or Canik TP9 (budget) - get a holster (rec Safariland), light (same as above lights), red dot (same as above red dots)
next: • chest rig: Spiritus, Haley Strategic, Ferro Concepts, Mayflower/Velocity Systems • level 3 or 4 plates: Hesco, RMA • plate carrier: Crye, Spiritus, LBT, Firstspear, Tyr Tactical • AR10 or bolt rifle in .308 0r 6.5 Creedmoor: Same as above rifle manufacturers with addition of Christensen Arms, Gunwerks, Kimber FN, GA Precision - bipod and sling • Ruger 10/22 with extended mags
So, now that you've got all of this stuff, to whom should you turn to learn how to use it? - Xray Alpha, LLC (Matt Pranka's company -- Delta guy retired in 2020, and USPSA GM) - Ben Stoeger / Practical Shooting Training Group (world championship pistol shooters) - GBRS Group (entirely former DEVGRU SEALs -- but idk if they're taking civilian clients rn) - Hades Consulting (former Delta operators) - Condition One Group (former DEVGRU) - Arcane Group (almost entirely staffed with former US SOF including a few Delta guys and a DEVGRU guy) - AMTAC Shooting (Bill Rapier, former DEVGRU) - Northern Red Training (all former Delta or Special Forces CIF [direct action team]) - Frank Proctor Shooting (ex Green Beret and champion competition shooter) - Green Eye Tactical (Eric Dorenbush's company -- ex Delta) - Viking Tactics / Kyle Lamb (ex Delta) - Aztec Training Services (one ex Delta guy and a ton of world champion competitive shooters) - Pat McNamara (ex Delta) - Bob Keller / Gamut Resolutions (ex Delta) - Shaw Shooting (national champion competitive shooters who train SOF units) - Core Vision Training (recent ex Rangers and Green Berets who train civilians in CQB) - CTT-Solutions (Mike Pannone, ex-Delta and USPSA Master) - Tony Cowden / Capable Inc. (ex Delta) - Haley Strategic (ex Recon Marine) - Esoteric / Yousef Sansour (former counterterror fed and high level competitive shooter who trains all the fed agencies) - Direct Action Resource Center (DARC) (ex Green Berets) - Redback One (run by Jason Falla, former Australian Tier 1) - Ronin Tactics (ex Green Beret; stupidly kitschy at times, but one of the best tactical instructors I've seen) - Kagwerks (ex Rangers) - Green Ops (several ex-SOF instructors, and one excellent competitive shooter) - Vigilance Elite (ex SEAL and CIA contractor) - Combat Shooting and Tactics (CSAT) / Paul Howe (another ex Delta guy from 90s/early 2000s) - Baer Solutions (ex Green Beret) - Trident Concepts (ex SEAL) - Thunder Ranch (run by Clint Smith, well known ex Marine and SWAT officer who's been training people since the 80s) - Sage Dynamics (ex Rangers and SWAT cops) - Gunsite Academy (long established training center run mostly by cops) - EAG Tactical (current SWAT cop) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 4:54 PM Author: Indecent bossy ticket booth knife are you opposed to ACOGs? Thoughts on the ACSS PA reticle? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143751) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:07 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen See edit -- LOVE ACSS reticle, one of the best I've ever shot with. If I could get that reticle in a Leupold, Nightforce, or Vortex, I'd never buy another LPVO
I don't like ACOGS very much -- the eye relief sucks, they're not adjustable which can really come in handy (especially if you're not running an offset dot), but they're at least very durable and bright. If you've got nothing else, run it -- otherwise get a Vortex (or any of the others I listed, all of which I would run before an ACOG). |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:16 PM Author: Indecent bossy ticket booth knife I've got an acog on each of my noveske's (only one has the ACSS). I've also got an unopened box Vortex LPVO that I have never mounted with an aftermarket offset mount. Might have to get around to playing with it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143913) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:26 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen Can't recommend Vortex enough. Would definitely stick it on and play with it for a bit. Which one do you have? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143959) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:35 PM Author: plum embarrassed to the bone pocket flask associate Vortex = heavy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144016) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:56 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen I'm happy with what I get for the weight but ymmv (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144128) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:24 PM Author: Glassy bisexual quadroon great list, a lot of work typing that out.
highly unnecessary. many would be better off with a different 5.56 than some of those armories. what's wrong with a random 5.56 vs a random ar15 brand.
personally i agree with glock having a glock 21 but it's so broad. the p320 is great but i wouldn't get it in .357 or .40. |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:49 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen Those brands are well known for quality. I don't know what poasters can afford, or what they need for their specific situation; best possible world is a KAC SR-15 upper on a Radian Model 1 lower with Geissele internals, but idk how many poasters can put one of those together -- much less find them rn. If a poaster lives in downtown Memphis, they have different needs than a poaster in Wyoming; they also have differing budgets. Giving them a list they can pick and choose from is far more helpful than telling them what exact model to buy.
I'd love to hear what other 5.56 people should run that offers an advantage over those I listed. PSA? they're better than nothing, certainly, and if they were my second or third AR, I'd get one no problem. But I want something better as my first option.
Yeah, again, I didn't tell people what model or caliber to buy because needs differ, but those brands make quality and out of that pool, you can find something for pretty much any mission. It's like tools -- if you asked me where to buy tools, I might not know what your project is but I know Gearwrench wrenches and Dewalt battery powered are well made and backed up by good customer service. |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 4:57 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#45549350) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:32 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen This is tangential to the OP, but if you're set for everything else I listed, along with all of the survival gear you need for your situation, get a nice drone with a camera -- they're the closest thing you'll get to air support. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41143994) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:33 PM Author: dashing hospital sandwich https://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Jungle-Green-Berets-Survival/dp/B089TWRYPL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144009) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:38 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen I've read this -- good book. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144040) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:42 PM Author: dashing hospital sandwich Yeah, clay's not the best writer but he's a good dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144059) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:51 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen CR, and it's accessible, if not eloquent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41144098) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 5:38 PM Author: slate mood legal warrant Glock 17 with a light + night sights in it. Woke people like red dots but I prefer hard sights.
I have a Daniel Defense DDm4v11 pro that I’ve put 2,000 rounds through without a single failure. Put a light and sling on it. Forward grips are a choice of preference but I prefer something that’s more horizontal. Make sure to get flip up irons. I have an EOS + 3x magnifier on mine.
You should also have a 22 and a 308 if you have room. I like the ruger 10/22 and the M1A Scout. |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:38 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad thread im most proud of not flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146408) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:40 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen it's one of my favorite threads ever on the bort -- not least because it hits one of my niches, you should be proud
what was your answer? |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:41 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad 180
this thread will save and end lives
i have a savage axis 2 243 for hunting, ruger 10/22 and gettgin a glock 17/19, SS P365xL and either gonna get a JP or scorpion pistol grip carbine basic models |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:51 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen Not bad at all. I'd go JP, but you already knew that. Next purchase should be an AR, and then some sort of AR10 or bolt gun in a longer range cartridge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146489) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:59 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad whats a good one of both that is possibly in stock?
just grab from your list abopve? |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:02 AM Author: slate mood legal warrant Use gunbroker and get it shipped to your FFL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146549) |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:03 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen Grab from the list above, yes. Hang tight and I'll try to find you some. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146562) |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:15 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen Alright. Some of these will be expensive, some will be cheaper. Wade through the links to find one that fits what you're looking for. Don't pay more than $2,800 for an AR-15 and that better be for KAC or Radian -- no others are worth it. Most of these you should not pay more than $2,500 for, and that number drops to $1,900 if it's BCM or LWRC, $1,500 if Aero or Turner -- and all of those numbers are still in the expensive range, where you should be looking for some aftermarket upgrades like Geissele or Radian triggers/charging handles, or something else to raise the value.
AR-15: - https://www.turnerarmco.com/Turner-Armament-Recon-p/tac-recon.htm - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881868909 (best AR on the market, and you pay through the nose for it) - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881888136 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881607120 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881498481 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880051851 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881241123 / https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881240926 (identical rifles, different listings; do not bid more than a grand for this) - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879608651 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879779675 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881895945 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881599634 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881861230 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881660604 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881926540 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881224952 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880858695 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881233828 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881449602 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881235238 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881304796 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881946995 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881456094 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881805902 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881896450 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/879556355 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881382084 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881597959 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881669655 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881896731 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881819689 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881552263 (Piston driven, not DI, so not as smooth but just as good if you know how to shoot) - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881592019 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881964446 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881950457 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880871863 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881825417 (good deal rn, bidding is in the $1,100 range) - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881219923 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880981697 (awesome package deal, but still expensive) - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881780522 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880599948 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881734590 -
AR-10: Don't pay more than $3,000, and that better be from KAC, Radian, Christensen, LMT -- all else should cap at $2500, and Aero should cap at like $1,600. - gunbroker.com/item/881550716 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880802327 (Christensen is top-tier quality, and again, you pay for it) - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880975516 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881867502 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881760147 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880790803 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881943274 - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881506275
That should give you plenty to look through. |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:30 AM Author: dashing hospital sandwich god's work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146940) |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:33 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146949) |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:08 AM Author: bateful address corn cake Those are all amazing rifles, and they're all top end.
But most people here are just getting into guns. They'd be better served getting some standard issue ~$1000 AR15 and putting thousands of rounds through the rifle.
The AR platform is extremely mature such that most of off-the-shelf components are very reliable. It's diminishing returns at the top end, and half the price is the cachet of the brand name. |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:12 AM Author: dashing hospital sandwich yeah, but most people posting on xo should be able to afford $3k for a top-of-the-line rifle that they'll have forever, especially when it's still really really hard to find $1200 rifles in stores + that $1200 PSA rifle will get upgraded in two years anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41147027) |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:16 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen This is a significant reason I've focused on high quality rifles -- most people here can probably afford it, and right now it is hard to get lower quality ones at commensurately lower prices anyway. If you're going to buy now, it's going to be expensive, and you may as well get something damn good for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41147039) |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:34 AM Author: bateful address corn cake Yes, for those who can afford it, getting a quality name-brand rifle is reasonable.
Anyway, the gun is just a tool. Squad tactics, skills with the weapons are just as important. |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:52 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen CR on training. Best options, in a rough order, are: - GBRS Group (the very best on this list -- entirely former DEVGRU SEALs -- but idk if they're taking civilian clients rn) - Fieldcraft Survival - Tony Cowden / Capable Inc. - Haley Strategic - Ronin Tactics (stupidly kitschy at times, but one of the best tactical instructors I've ever seen) - Aztec Training Services - Core Vision Training - Esoteric / Yousef Sansour - Frank Proctor Shooting - Kagwerks - Viking Tactics / Kyle Lamb - Vigilance Elite - Pat McNamara - Direct Action Resource Center (DARC) - Shaw Shooting - Combat Shooting and Tactics (CSAT) / Paul Howe - Baer Solutions - Trident Concepts - Thunder Ranch - Gunsite Academy - Sage Dynamics - EAG Tactical |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 2:15 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen The first part is fair. Anyone for whom this is true should get the Turner I linked very first, or one of the cheaper Aero or LWRC rifles somewhere in there.
I think I probably disagree some with the idea that you're paying just for the rollmark -- I can point to significant differences in shooting Radian / KAC vs. Aero / Turner. However, you're right that an Aero or BCM rifle is more than sufficient for 95% of all needs, and I linked several there for that reason. However, right now everything is overpriced and you pay less of a markup right now by buying a good gun -- which most people here can probably afford. |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 4:59 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#45549351) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:50 PM Author: gay candlestick maker So many CHOICES out there i dont know what to buy next (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146480) |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:53 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen A) What do you have? B) What environment/terrain do you live in? |
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Date: October 19th, 2020 11:58 PM Author: gay candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146533) |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:01 AM Author: slate mood legal warrant Get a battle rifle
Or a scouting rifle
AR is always a good choice
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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:05 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146575) |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:05 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen If you get a shotgun, I'd get semi-auto. I'd also get an AR first, and then a 7.62 rifle.
Definitely get the 10/22, they're such versatile little guns.
19 is good, I like mine. |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 12:23 AM Author: gay candlestick maker I hate ARs. Used to have one years ago. Dont get the AR obsession (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146654) |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 1:19 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen I love em -- very easy to shoot fast and well, very customizable to needs, versatile (can clear houses and shoot out to 500y with a 14.5 barrel). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41146920) |
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Date: October 21st, 2020 11:40 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41155857) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:14 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235729) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:15 PM Author: crusty jap locale Shopping for body armor is so confusing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235732) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:19 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad What’re you looking to get
I got that green beret urban warfare book and he doesn’t really mention any ba recs |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:22 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen Clay Martin? Which one? He just came out with a new one like 2 weeks ago called Prairie Fire, which is far more geared towards actual civil war than Concrete Jungle, which is much more of a "how to get out of your shitlib hellhole" guide. I've read both (Prairie Fire yesterday). In Prairie Fire, he recommends against body armor because it's expensive, heavy, and takes time to get used to working in. He also says that if you're going to buy it, buy Hesco. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235765) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:25 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad Yeah his book, it’s pretty good not too in depth but made me glad to be out of MFH
I’ll order that one next
I’m still in pretty shitlib area so there’s really no where to train which he says is most important |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:31 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen Gotta move brother
Troubles are coming
Gotta find a way to hit the range
Dryfire also helps a LOT |
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Date: November 6th, 2020 6:32 PM Author: crusty jap locale Should I read that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41302658) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2021 6:42 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen Yes, both Concrete Jungle and Prairie Fire are good -- but especially Prairie Fire.
CJ: https://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Jungle-Green-Berets-Survival/dp/B089TWRYPL PF: https://www.amazon.com/Prairie-Fire-Guidebook-Surviving-Civil/dp/B08L6DDJHL |
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Date: April 6th, 2023 7:30 PM Author: copper travel guidebook Small Unit Tactics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#46154141) |
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Date: April 17th, 2023 6:58 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen Funny you should poast this -- I just ordered the reissue of Paul Lefavor's SUT manual. It's one of the two best resources I've found on SUT, the other being this amazing manual: https://www.amazon.com/Small-Unit-Tactics-Raids-Illustrated/dp/1734888024
Get those two things and you have all the knowledge access you need. Only thing left is to train. |
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Date: April 17th, 2023 7:00 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad copped (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#46198799) |
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Date: April 17th, 2023 7:36 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#46198969) |
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Date: November 1st, 2020 3:22 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen What is your price range and what level of protection do you want? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41235768) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2020 11:50 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad HERE WE GO! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41263604) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2020 11:55 PM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#41263716) |
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Date: October 30th, 2021 9:23 PM Author: Violet stock car resort Supersoaker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#43356926) |
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Date: August 31st, 2022 5:35 AM Author: pink internet-worthy school liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#45097657) |
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Date: April 6th, 2023 7:10 PM Author: Tantric bistre chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4586578&forum_id=2#46154010) |