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Date: March 20th, 2010 1:40 PM Author: mind-boggling spot
Terry vs. Ohio might be the seminal case there. Learned that in Barbri.
This case holds that it is reasonable for an officer to stop an individual absent probable cause to arrest, as long as he/she can point to "specific articulable facts" that justify the intrusion. An officer's good faith and/or inarticulate hunches simply aren't enough.
In order to reach its decision, the Terry court basically distinguished between two standards that are necessarily involved with any stop, detention, and/or arrest: reasonable belief and reasonable suspicion.
In essence, a reasonable belief is probable cause. Probable cause means that a reasonable and cautious officer would believe that criminal activity is or was taking place. This is the level of proof that is required to arrest and even to conduct a prolonged investigation.
A reasonable suspicion is a lesser standard. Only a reasonable suspicion is necessary in order to stop an individual who an officer suspects may be involved in criminal activity.
IMO, merely refusing to talk would be NOT be enough.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14443779) |
Date: March 20th, 2010 2:45 PM Author: know-it-all affirmative action legend
i can't wait until they discover you poast on XO
it will make a great ATL story
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14444411) |
Date: March 20th, 2010 4:52 PM Author: Harsh windowlicker
on the polygraph:
do they ask you about crimes you've been convicted/accused of
or crimes that you've done
?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14445619) |
Date: March 20th, 2010 4:57 PM Author: ruby stead hominid
1- did u go straight out of school or from a firm job?
2- if the latter, do you get a pay bump for your experience
3- what critical skill(s) did u apply under?
4- is it crucial to have multiple ones to offer: lang + law for example
5- do FBI spec agent w jd degrees do different jobs than others?
6- does risk of death scare you
7- any idea what the avg pension is like for a 20y vet?
8- do jd degree holders need 1+, 3 or no experience to be eligible
9- any downside to applying beyond age 30
10- if you had a firm job, did FBI contact your firm prior to hiring you? How does that work and any way to avoid it? I ask because if my biglaw fi found out that I had applied to FBI, I would be out of a job, look uncommitted (in case I sdidnt end up getting it or taking it)
thanks
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14445659) |
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Date: March 20th, 2010 7:14 PM Author: mind-boggling spot
1. From a firm job.
2. Nope.
3. Law & accounting
4. nah even 1 is fine, but I think more than 1 critical skills helps in getting the phase II interview
5 yeah there are different career tracks, one of which is for lawyers
6 nope. I'm looking forward to the excitement and am pumped about getting firearms training. i doubt there's much chance of dying anyways; most of the agents I met spend most of their time behind a desk
7 not sure but in the past I think it has been 70% of your normal salary.
8 I think with a JD you need 1 year of work experience. people without a JD need three years experience
9 not that i know of. As long as you apply before you're near the cutoff age of 38 i think you're fine
10 FBI contacted every employer I've ever worked for, and talked to many of my old co-workers too. No way to avoid it. The background check is VERY thorough
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14446766) |
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Date: March 20th, 2010 7:17 PM Author: ruby stead hominid
well are you given a conditional letter of employment when they do the background check?
how did you explain it to the firm?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14446801)
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Date: March 20th, 2010 5:13 PM Author: soul-stirring chartreuse theater stage cuckoldry
how were you selected for phase 2
describe phase 2 in detail, did they state the reasons why they selected you after phase 2?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14445785) |
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Date: March 20th, 2010 7:04 PM Author: mind-boggling spot
After you pass Phase I they have you submit a resume and answer some questions about your qualifications. Headquarters reviews that stuff and then pick the best candidates for a Phase II interview. Phase II consists of a one-hour interview with multiple agents and a written exam.
There's a book on applying for FBI jobs at Barnes & Noble that gives tons of sample questions used for the Phase II interviews. If you get that far I recommend checking it out.
They don't give any feedback during the whole selection process, just whether you passed or not.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14446682) |
Date: March 20th, 2010 6:59 PM Author: ruby stead hominid
was your phase 1 test during a weekday? remember what time? same for phase 2? how long were you gone (i hear they fly you out)?
i ask because im unsure how to get away from the office / explain my absence, esp if these are held on weekdays
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14446650) |
Date: March 20th, 2010 7:06 PM Author: ruby stead hominid
1-At what pt do your grades come into consideration? Are they ever a bar to consideration?
2-How much, if at all, does URM status help?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14446704) |
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Date: March 20th, 2010 8:05 PM Author: spectacular sepia hell haunted graveyard
How many pushups do you have to be able to do?
What's the required 1-mile run time?
Edit: for anyone else who's interested, see scoring scales at http://www.fbijobs.gov/11131.asp
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14447318) |
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Date: March 20th, 2010 9:05 PM Author: mind-boggling spot
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/td/academy/ftu/ftu.htm
Agents carry the bureau issued glock pistol. Also, I think agents are eligible to have automatic weapons that are illegal for non-law enforcement people.
"agents in training must qualify with a Bureau-issued handgun and shotgun. For the handgun, students must shoot a minimum of 80 percent or better on two of three record attempts on the qualification course. The cumulative score must average 80 percent or better on all three record attempts. For the shotgun, trainees must shoot a minimum of 80 percent or better on one of two record attempts. The students must also demonstrate familiarity with the Bureau submachine gun and the Bureau carbine. Agent trainees fire approximately 3,900 rounds of ammunition during their 20 weeks at the Academy. They also participate in drills using simulated firearms training equipment—much like a sophisticated video game—that tests their ability to make split-second decisions in life-or-death situations."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14447851)
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Date: September 16th, 2011 3:29 PM Author: cordovan sickened parlor
" just check the fbi's ten most wanted and you can see some of the dangerous types you could be working against (bin laden is on there, for example)."
Not anymore, dooder
OBAMA
GOT
OSAMA
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#18982940) |
Date: March 20th, 2010 9:06 PM Author: 180 karate
First, of all, yeah, great thread. I can tell you're a good dude too because you like MW2.
Question: Marijuana usage. My history is not extensive whatsoever, but the few times I used was around 4 years ago. They say 3 years is the cutoff. Is this true, or is it a trap?
Should I just disclose it if it comes to that?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14447855) |
Date: March 20th, 2010 9:16 PM Author: At-the-ready Rusted Station Giraffe
Before I went to college, I traveled across the US as kind of a homeless d00d. Then I came back for college. I was about 17-19. How will that affect my chances?
Also, I have a UG degree in statistics + poli sci with a high GPA. I am about 5'6 to 5'8; short for a male and am a little fat around the tummy.
What was your UG major?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14447954) |
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Date: March 20th, 2010 9:19 PM Author: mind-boggling spot
I can't see how being nomadic for a year or so would hurt your chances much.
The statistics/poly-sci degree probably wouldn't qualify for a critical skill so you'd need something else. Work experience in one of the critical skill areas or another degree/training.
Shortness and a little fat won't hurt ya. many of the people at my fit test had that build. the fit test is all about preparation. one guy i knew was 5'8 and kinda chubby and he got over 20 on his fit test. dude did over 50 situps and ran in 1.5 mile in under 10 minutes. crazy...
i majored in accounting, so i was fortunate to be able to meet two critical skills (accounting + law).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14447974) |
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Date: March 20th, 2010 9:27 PM Author: At-the-ready Rusted Station Giraffe
Crap.
How many Canadians were you aware of in training?
Former Canadians*
I guess you wouldn't be worrying about that...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14448059)
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Date: March 21st, 2010 4:43 AM Author: Harsh windowlicker
dood, what about all the stupid shit you did in high school like steal street signs and underage drinking?
what about having driven with a questionable BAC -- but not having gotten pulled over?
do you need to be sparkling clean?
does HYS + no traffic violations help?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14451218) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2010 12:24 PM Author: maroon new version
Just applied to the FBI a few days ago. Faxed in my transcripts. Looking to graduate from law school in May, top 5% of my class in lower Tier 1 school.
I'm a bit old for a law student, though--32. Hope this doesn't hurt me too bad. Background in government contracting. Hope this doesn't show a "lack of interest" in law enforcement, since I am, in fact very, interested.
Also concerned about physical requirements, assuming I get that far. I am in good shape, but to score really well in those requirements, you have to be in great shape. Right now, I run a 12:30 1.5 mile and am at about 25 push-ups and 35 sit-ups. Goal is 50 each and an 11 minute run.
Any idea how competitive an applicant with a law degree is compared to say a linguist, accountant or engineer? And is no military or law enforcement experience a big negative?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14474718) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2010 3:06 PM Author: mind-boggling spot
congrats on your law school success. your age won't play much of a factor as 32 is only two years over the average age. good luck as the process is very long and will consume a lot of your time.
the hardest thing about the fitness test is doing each routine back-to-back with only a five minute break in-between each. your form on the sit-ups and push-ups will have to be perfect or you'll lose reps. if you're score a 16+ at home, you'll probably score under 12 when the fbi agents are counting the reps. shoulders not hitting the ground on the sit-ups? tough. minus one rep. arms not locking at the top of your push-up? minus one. still tired after the sprint? too bad for you, run the 1.5 mile.
it takes a lot of work over an extended amount of time to prepare for the fitness test. and it can be really difficult to stay motivated as the whole application process takes a year+.
last year law was one of the critical skills that the fbi wanted, over some other critical skills. not sure if that has continued this year. they get lots of LE and military applicants so it's probably easier to stand out with another critical skill
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14475952) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2010 3:29 PM Author: mind-boggling spot
the events, in order from first to last are sit-ups for one minute, 300m sprint, push-ups then 1.5 mile.
starting with my phase I acceptance, I practiced the events in order every single day, giving myself the 5 minute break between each. my significant other timed me, watched my form, counted my reps and held my feet for the situps.
other applicants will try various different workouts, like the navy seal workout, etc (you can look up some other people's strategies on the 911jobsforums.com site).
after a few months of doing the fitness test on my own every day I bumped up my routine to: situps for 1 minute 30 seconds, 400m, pushups, 2mile run. that way on the real test i found i had extra energy to push myself all the way through. for some reason at the real test a lot of people have less energy, maybe due to stress, lack of sleep the night before, etc
edit: you'll want to score 16+ at the fittest. 12-15 points is a passing score, but with that amount of points you'd have to retake the fit test prior to quantico. they want to make sure applicants don't slack off and get out of shape during background check portion. if you get 16+ they assume you're in good enough shape and don't need the extra fit test prior to quantico
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1255913&forum_id=2#14476131) |
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