"Judeo-Christian" was one of the best Hasbara psyops
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Date: November 7th, 2025 11:04 PM Author: Vivacious kitty cat trump supporter
what's wrong with the wikipedia entry on israelites?
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Historically, Jews and Samaritans have been two closely related ethno-religious groups descended from the Israelites; Jews trace their ancestry to the tribes that inhabited the Kingdom of Judah, namely Judah, Benjamin, and partially Levi, while Samaritans trace their ancestry to the tribes that inhabited the Kingdom of Israel and remained after the Assyrian captivity, namely Ephraim, Manasseh, and partially Levi. Furthermore, Judaism and Samaritanism are fundamentally rooted in Israelite religious and cultural traditions.[22][23][24][25] There are several other groups claiming affiliation with the Israelites, but most of them have unproven lineage and are not recognized as either Jewish or Samaritan.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794656&forum_id=2#49411592) |
Date: November 7th, 2025 10:09 PM Author: magical psychic
not really
it makes sense as an abstract. it's just distorted by the political structure. "judeo-christian" already existed from the inception of christianity. it's complicated, but judaism is built into the foundations of the belief system
what makes less and less sense as time goes on is "Roman christianity", which isn't a dig at the contemporary catholic church, but something else entirely
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794656&forum_id=2#49411507) |
Date: November 7th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: Stirring roast beef messiness
"Let’s bring this to a conclusion. The two opposing values “good and bad,” “good and evil” have fought a fearful battle on earth for thousands of years. …The symbol of this battle, written in a script which has remained legible through all human history up to the present, is called “Rome against Judea, Judea against Rome.” To this point there has been no greater event than this war, this posing of a question, this contradiction between deadly enemies. Rome felt that the Jew was like something contrary to nature itself, its monstrous polar opposite, as it were. In Rome the Jew was considered “guilty of hatred against the entire human race.” And that view was correct, to the extent that we are right to link the health and the future of the human race to the unconditional rule of aristocratic values, the Roman values.
By contrast, how did the Jews feel about Rome? We can guess that from a thousand signs, but it is sufficient to treat ourselves again to the Apocalypse of St. John, that wildest of all written outbursts which vengeance has on its conscience…
The Romans were indeed strong and noble men, stronger and nobler than any people who had lived on earth up until then or even than any people who had ever been dreamed up. Everything they left as remains, every inscription, is delightful, provided that we can guess what is doing the writing there. By contrast, the Jews were par excellence that priestly people of ressentiment, who possessed an unparalleled genius for popular morality…
Which of them has proved victorious for the time being, Rome or Judea? Surely there’s not the slightest doubt. Just think of who it is that people bow down to today in Rome itself, as the personification of all the highest values — and not only in Rome, but in almost half the earth, all the places where people have become merely tame or want to become tame — in front of three Jews, as we know, and one Jewess (in front of Jesus of Nazareth, the fisherman Peter, the carpet maker Paul, and the mother of the first-mentioned Jesus, named Mary). This is very remarkable: without doubt Rome has been conquered."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794656&forum_id=2#49411527) |
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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:29 PM Author: Stirring roast beef messiness
Writers as diverse as Cicero (106-43 BC), Horace (65-8 BC), Pliny the Elder (23-79 AD), Seneca (4-65 AD), Quintilian (30-100 AD), Martial (40-105 AD) Tacitus (56-120 AD), Juvenal (55-130 AD) and Marcus Aurelius (121-180AD) heavily criticized the Jews for their stubborn ideology and subversion, as well as their militant zealotry. Tacitus, the famous historian who praised the Germans, held them in particularly low standing: “For the Jews, everything that is sacred to us is despicable, and what is repugnant to us is lawful. The Jews reveal a stubborn bond with one another…Those who embrace their religion practice the same thing and the first thing they are taught is to despise the Gods.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794656&forum_id=2#49411546) |
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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:32 PM Author: magical psychic
Yes and there are a lot of pro-jewish accounts as well, especially from later on in the empire
I also think that the friction between the two sets of practices has been highlighted later on as jews tend to add what's effectively political castigation to their religious commentaries and perhaps this distorts the essential and eternal truth about the matter (s that the religious commentaries should be containing)
Wrt the jewish vehemence on civic religion, this appears to be more about proscribing Rome rather than a real blanket prohibition on the ideas that animate "civic religion", which israel at times has itself displayed
Maybe this is controversial but this is the place for it
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794656&forum_id=2#49411553) |
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