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Do normal (read: non law) women regret feminism yet?
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:23 PM Author: Flushed sanctuary death wish I just saw a 25-30 year old woman in literally tears at starbucks at the table next to mine. Started off with: I'm in a terrible place right now and went through trouble with her jobs and relationships. Do women realize work sucks yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801444) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:24 PM Author: Pontificating Incel Spot not at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801446) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:34 PM Author: elite violent address degenerate No, they don't. The notion that every single freedom they have is attributable to what Gloria Steinhem said 35 years ago has been beaten into our generation of girls since they were about 8.
They can't see the forest for the trees even though I would bet 90+% of women would be happier not having an outside job and having/raising kids in a monogamous relationship. It's biological.
Instead, they strive into their mid 30s to try to climb into middle management at their ad agency or specialized consulting firm and a 60k paycheck. They "date" serially with many short term "flings" they want to have "while they're young." Gradually the nights at the bar "just being myself" fade into nights alone at home with a 7 dollar bottle of white wine, an ABP ceaser salad, and a box of weight watchers chocolate fudge pops. She panics after about 4 years of this, and marries fuckupd00d who doesn't give two shits about her. She then undergoes 100k worth of fertility treatment, spending all the money she saved being a big important career woman who utilized her sociology degree from Vassar to the fullest (despite what self-help and empowerment books imply, fertility drops like a stone after 28, and the vast majority of women getting fertility treatment are 30-35). |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:37 PM Author: learning disabled coiffed school Unbelievably credited. You basically wrote out the life story of a woman who started biglaw with me awhile back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801588) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:40 PM Author: Motley Depressive hi pensive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801624) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:53 PM Author: elite violent address degenerate I'm not pensive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801731) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:51 PM Author: Adulterous Main People I worked as a MBB consultant and at a v25 firm, and I did see a lot of this.
The funny thing about it though is that it isn't nearly as common as the poster seems to think. It certainly isn't every woman that goes down this road.
But that being said, this scenario is also far far more common than the womyn 4 lyfe crowd would have you believe. It happens, and it happens a lot.
Neither side is right. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:55 PM Author: fluffy kitty this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801760) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:45 PM Author: bespoke legend credit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802122) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 6:10 PM Author: Vengeful wonderful trailer park well, yea, 99% of women don't have a legitimate way out of the human condition.
lol @ their thinking they do. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:45 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe absolutely credited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809869) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:12 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator 120 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810112) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:35 PM Author: Indecent titillating public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810290) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 2:22 PM Author: learning disabled coiffed school 181 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810590) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 3:05 PM Author: Sepia jew weed whacker 177 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810950) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 6:08 PM Author: Vengeful wonderful trailer park lol @ claiming the sole purpose of a woman is to shit out kids. i can't imagine how fulfilling life must be for a chick who lives the june cleaver lifestyle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15812147) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:28 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage The "June Cleaver lifestyle" was invented by corporations which aimed to profit by selling housewives a home in a box. The housewife's job was reduced to nothing more than chauffeuring her kids, buying shit, and scrubbing. Unsurprisingly, people tend to find it unfulfilling and boring as fuck.
This lifestyle bears only passing resemblance to true homemaking, which requires the active participation of everyone (non-babies, anyway) in the family to provide for the household. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:34 PM Author: Glittery puppy preventive strike lol, cr. feminists know that the true sole purpose of a woman is to shit out excel spreadsheets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15814593) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:38 PM Author: 180 bronze skinny woman state To be fair, not having any power to determine the course of your own life sucks pretty bad too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801597) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:41 PM Author: Motley Depressive The great delusion of the age is the belief that more choices automatically leads to greater happiness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801636) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:02 PM Author: translucent resort fortuitous meteor (1) Which is why Honda doesn't do separate options.
(2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice:_Why_More_Is_Less |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 6:25 PM Author: Vengeful wonderful trailer park the thesis of that book is primitive. nowadays, people are far less interested in pursuing a naive ideal like happiness and far more interested in limiting misery (even neutrality is better than that). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15812249) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:55 PM Author: elite violent address degenerate Would you rather have a choice of a kick in the face or the balls...
Or be given 300 dollars cash with no choice? |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:04 PM Author: bossy crackhouse idiot lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801820) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:04 PM Author: Sinister Racy Institution Dragon not all women see settling down with a husband at 22 and having a bunch of kids as the 300 dollars cash choice
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Date: August 17th, 2010 6:11 PM Author: Vengeful wonderful trailer park yea, that's where big, thick nigger cock comes in to play. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15812171) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:20 PM Author: Comical fantasy-prone range mother LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801937) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:46 PM Author: Glittery puppy preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802131) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:04 PM Author: Sinister Racy Institution Dragon yes this is why women appreciate "feminism"
women who want to settle down early and have a family can still do that, no one's forcing them to be career women. the woman the OP describes chose to be that way.
OTOH, before feminism women had no choices other than to marry some guy and pop out a bunch of kids for him. they had no control over their lives, what they did, where they lived and couldn't leave if the husband was abusive or bad in some way. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:05 PM Author: Adulterous Main People These are all half truths at best.
Top careers weren't open to women, but they could certainly have a job, often a well paying one (nurses were always well paid).
You could always get a divorce for abuse. And many did. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:07 PM Author: Sinister Racy Institution Dragon CERTAIN women had the opportunity to have a few jobs (nurse, teacher, social worker). these were the women who were fortunate enough to have access to some education. a lot of families didn't really see any point to educating women. also, not all women want to choose between those three professions.
finally, women could theoretically leave men who abused them and cheated on them, but many were stuck for financial reasons. if you have small children and have no skills or work history how exactly are you going to leave your husband? |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:06 PM Author: Motley Depressive You're making an argument for 1920s feminism, which isn't the subject here. By 1970 divorce was possible, women had the vote, full legal rights, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801847) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:09 PM Author: Sinister Racy Institution Dragon yeah but the OP is talking about things like employment/economic equality, not legal/political equality
that's more second-wave feminism (60s/70s) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:47 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe Second wave feminism is shit, pure shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809895) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:17 PM Author: Shimmering infuriating gaming laptop reading party "no one's forcing women to be career women?"
well, in a way, women ARE forced into the job market now. By effectively doubling the workforce from 1965-present, wages were commensurately suppressed. now, everyone gets to work, WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT.
Fuck feminism. Women don't belong in the workforce with men. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:18 PM Author: Sinister Racy Institution Dragon "Women don't belong in the workforce with men."
why not? |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:19 PM Author: Motley Depressive I don't know, why not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801932) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:20 PM Author: Shimmering infuriating gaming laptop reading party in my experience, they complicate things on pretty much every level. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801935) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:21 PM Author: Sinister Racy Institution Dragon elaborate, please (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801942) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:26 PM Author: Shimmering infuriating gaming laptop reading party Basically, I don't like sharing.
Also, you can't treat women the way you can treat men. I know a lot of people disagree with this, but they're just wrong. There's an allowed coarseness and efficiency within male communication that is not permitted with women.
And men can't have kids. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:37 PM Author: Sinister Racy Institution Dragon thats probably true
one time my boss yelled at me about something and i started crying. it was pretty embarassing but i couldnt help it. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:45 PM Author: bespoke legend This happened a lot in biglaw. I've seen so many women cry. Not once have I seen a man break down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802117) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:08 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator oh noes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810092) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:53 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator it'd be much more efficient if half the population wasn't put to productive use, regardless of innate ability. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809941) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:31 PM Author: Adulterous Main People Mommy time off always pissed me off.
I get to work for 4 months while she gets to draw my salary. Men got 1 week at my consulting firm and 2 at my law firm. If they took more they routinely got axed at reviews.
But beyond that it's communication. Men can get shit done. Women alone can get shit done. A mix introduces politics, sex, and misunderstandings and animosity to the mix. It's tough to explain if you haven't worked for awhile. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:33 PM Author: autistic citrine base indirect expression not to mention the millions of man-hours wasted every year on gender sensitivity training where people could just be spent on you know, actually getting shit done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802036) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:49 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe It really is kind of amazing how many man-hours are wasted on all of that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809908) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:56 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator you know what wouldn't be a waste? auto-assigning half the population to low level domestic work regardless of innate ability.
though, somehow the communication differences don't exclude women from marrying and residing with men. weird how that works. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:58 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe I take it you're a bitter feminist with shriveling ovaries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809986) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:58 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator i take it you can't defend your argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809994) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:59 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe Have you ever had a job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809997) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:00 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator have you ever been a housewife? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810011) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:02 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe Aside from receiving frequent deep dickings, I'm basically doing that now. It's fucking sweet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810036) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:00 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe Also, you're responding to a comment about how wasteful all of the sexual harassment training is, and I'm not even sure you're disputing that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810010) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:01 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator you're bringing up these little examples of waste, where even if taken as true, are nothing compared to the waste you're promoting to prevent them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810027) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:03 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe What, exactly, do you think am I promoting? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810043) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:27 PM Author: Beta Wine Market Blood Rage so fucking true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802484) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 3:57 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage It's not "mommy time". It's disability. Childbirth involves significant blood loss and internal damage which actually takes a while to heal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15811229) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 5:39 PM Author: pale menage sorry, but you took this on voluntarily and cannot call it a disability. It's supposed to be a natural part of your life, after all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15811961) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:30 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage You fail at legal definitions. It's disability leave, and yes, it is physically disabling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15814560) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:37 PM Author: pale menage Quit disabling yourself. It's your own fault. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15814637) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:40 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage edit: nice edit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15814679) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:49 PM Author: bespoke legend Men say what they need/want. Women want you to intuit it.
Men can be told what to do. Women need the demands on them to be less blunt.
Women hold grudges. Women are far more passive aggressive. Women are gossipy and cliquey in ways that men aren't.
Men will stab each other in the back or throw each other under the bus to advance their interests. Women will do it in the name of relationships, hurt feelings, and real or perceived slights. This means women do it A LOT A LOT A LOT more.
This is not stereotype. This is 100% true in the office world. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:52 PM Author: learning disabled coiffed school This may be the most credited post in xoxo history. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802177) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:07 PM Author: stimulating sexy temple CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802294) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:15 PM Author: boyish haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802384) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:51 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator yes, differences in communication style justify the exclusion of an entire sex from the workforce.
it'll be so much more fucking productive if half the population does not work, regardless of their ability. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 2:59 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage Homemakers work too, dipshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810906) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 5:41 PM Author: pale menage ROFL, wow! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15811976) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:30 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage OMGWTFBBQ! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15814565) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:24 PM Author: autistic citrine base indirect expression so fucking credited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801961) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:31 PM Author: Adulterous Main People cred (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802017) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:34 PM Author: bespoke legend titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802041) |
Date: August 16th, 2010 2:41 PM Author: Adulterous Main People I don't think so. Many only want what they would have had a much easier time getting 50 years ago -- ie a husband, a white picket fence, and 3.2 kids -- even if they're hesitant to admit it, but they all appreciate having a choice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801635) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:42 PM Author: Motley Depressive This is probably right. No one is sticking a gun in women's heads and making them work 60 hour weeks, and lots of them don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801640) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:59 PM Author: elite violent address degenerate Yes, but I think we lost something as a society when our best and brightest women refuse to have a kid or two until they're 37 (and often fail) because they were taught that if they didn't make it to that middle management 70k/year job they would have wasted their life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801785) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:08 PM Author: Beta Wine Market Blood Rage this. In 50 years we are gonna be one stupid society. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801862) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:53 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe It's sad that it's mainly the smart professional types affected by this trend towards later (and less) breeding. Meanwhile, the stupid people keep breeding as much as ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809947) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:58 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator maybe you could, you know, make breeding a more attractive option? you bitch about the time off for maternity leave, and then you bitch that no one wants to have kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809987) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:01 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe Both my wife and I are staying home with the kids right now, and it's great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810024) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 3:00 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage The idiots fail at birth control and have 5 kids by the time they're 22. The smart people wait until they're infertile.
Our society is on the fast track to burning fail. Go read a parenting messageboard sometime if you want to be horrified for our future. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:09 PM Author: Abnormal Dull Friendly Grandma Black Woman But I have to put MY DEGREES TO GOOD USE!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801870) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:52 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe I'm so glad my wife gave up on this in her 20s rather than her 30s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809933) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:57 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator unless she's a dumb she's probably bored to death and resents you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809981) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:58 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe not really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809988) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:59 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator judging from your posts you don't understand or know how to read women, so i doubt your opinion on this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810009) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 3:01 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage No, actually I read quantum physics textbooks while nursing the babies and have a pretty active social and productive life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810928) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:16 PM Author: Adulterous Main People This is my biggest problem with feminism as it is practiced today. It's less about women trying to attain equality and more about some women trying to tell all women what they should do.
Which seems oddly familiar. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:02 PM Author: fishy kitchen Good point, gotta spread that seed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802255) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:54 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator society doesn't provide incentives for it. in europe they make having a kid a whole fuck of a lot easier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809949) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 3:02 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage Once you figure out who's having kids in America, you figure out why Americans don't want to encourage childbearing.
This results in even more concentration of breeding among poors and dumbs. |
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Date: August 18th, 2010 12:16 PM Author: Motley Depressive Yet their birth rates are plummeting to zero. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15818724) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 2:59 PM Author: indigo theater stage lol at that being possible ITE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801788) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:02 PM Author: elite violent address degenerate It would be possible if it was the norm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801803) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:17 PM Author: indigo theater stage The rest of the world isn't in ruins like it was in 1950, bro. There is insane competition globally. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801915) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:19 PM Author: Shimmering infuriating gaming laptop reading party cr. america isn't exceptional because we're intrinsically a better people. we're exceptional because we had the world's sole production capabilities for the better part of the 20th century and didn't have to worry about invasion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801933) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 5:05 PM Author: stimulating sexy temple Sadly, TCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802807) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:04 PM Author: Adulterous Main People If women left the workforce it would probably be possible again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801825) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:10 PM Author: Motley Depressive MFE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801874) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:16 PM Author: bossy crackhouse idiot Zapffe should be required reading for all teenagers. This is the step before total non-reproductive malaise. In a few generations, the western tradition will be a head-bobbing, koran-palming version of itself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801914) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:21 PM Author: Shimmering infuriating gaming laptop reading party lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15801941) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:00 PM Author: histrionic fiercely-loyal shrine electric furnace ok bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810014) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:33 PM Author: bespoke legend Women: Getting a chance to fill in excel spreadsheets, take customer service calls, and proofread documents nobody will ever look at for 80 hours a week for a soulless boss/corporation who will drop you at his first advantage IS THE WAY TO INDEPENDENCE AND APPRECIATION!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802037) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 2:24 PM Author: learning disabled coiffed school lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810621) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 6:13 PM Author: Vengeful wonderful trailer park it's the way to coke parties and nightly gang bangs with hung niggers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15812178) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:35 PM Author: cyan gaping I've never been much of a feminist but I don't get the people who are so gung ho about getting women out of the workforce. Don't you realize what that would do to our economy? It's not like you will miraculously return to the 1950's because women aren't working. The irl result will be other nations absolutely destroying us economically an America becoming more and more of a marginalized country with a joke of an economy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802049) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:37 PM Author: bespoke legend We don't have a real economy anymore. We have a service economy which is painfully bloated. Fewer people doesn't mean we'll produce less.
The things we still actually produce/engineer and export are done by men (think Boeing, Microsoft programmers, GM engineers). |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: cyan gaping Women make up about half the workforce right now. 50% less people in the workforce and we WILL produce less. Even assuming only some of the women follow this path, the economy will likely suffer from (1) a reduction in skilled workers and (2) a reduction in spending as we move to single income households. If you look at actual rate of unemployment(not the government reported bs) many experts believe it's approaching the rate of the great depression. One of the reasons things aren't as desperate is because of the large number of two income households.
You're all looking at this from the point of view of the wife staying at home while the husband makes a lot of money with nearly perfect job security. That's not realistic for most households today.
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:46 PM Author: bossy crackhouse idiot "That's not realistic for most households today."
AND WHO CNA WE BLAME FOR THAT?? |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:48 PM Author: cyan gaping Tough question. Not women though. If they weren't in the workforce, America would be even more of a ttt nation right now. And that is :::scary::: (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802150) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:48 PM Author: Opaque Supple Lodge Boltzmann lack of unions to give job security? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802154) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: Opaque Supple Lodge Boltzmann It's not all men. I have a thing for dating female engineers and computer scientists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802097) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:55 PM Author: learning disabled coiffed school Have you dated both of them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802209) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:59 PM Author: passionate rigpig Asked my bf if I could be a trophy wife.
"Yes... but you shouldn't." :/ |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:10 PM Author: stimulating sexy temple At this point men need the money too, but it didn't have to be like that.
And it will matter less and less as more basic needs (retirement, healthcare, disability) are 100% provided by the government (so you don't need anyone else to afford them) and tax rates rise (so the marginal spending power of two incomes is lessened). |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:19 PM Author: cyan gaping Let me ask you something: have you EVER balanced a checkbook? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802423) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:31 PM Author: stimulating sexy temple For the 4 years after college and law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802518) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:41 PM Author: Turquoise area "At this point men need the money too, but it didn't have to be like that."
lolwut? You think women pre-feminism weren't even bigger golddiggers since they knew they were totally dependent on their husbands? So yes, it HAD to be like that even pre-feminism.
And nothing is stopping you from spending less now. But it would suck, wouldn't it? |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 3:59 PM Author: Pontificating Incel Spot anyways i figured out why.
men are untrustworthy and undependable. that's why i need my own paycheck. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 3:05 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage Bosses are totally trustworthy and dependable and will never fire you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810955) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 5:51 PM Author: pale menage You can totally find another husband willing to take on you and your booger-eaters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15812038) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:32 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage I have no need to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15814579) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:38 PM Author: pale menage You sure better hope not, dear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15814657) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 3:13 PM Author: Indecent titillating public bath WHAT IS THE MALE RESPONSE TO THIS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15811013) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:23 PM Author: Soul-stirring khaki ticket booth I've never really considered myself a feminist, but no, I don't regret the movement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802448) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:29 PM Author: Insecure Space Queen Of The Night You guys are ignorant, disgusting, stupid faggots. The only remotely worthwhile lines of argument are:
1.) Smart women who take up careers don't have kids, so we have fewer smart people reproducing because of feminism.
Link? And smart women are under no obligation to reproduce, just as smart men are under no obligation to do so.
2.) If women hadn't entered the workforce, wages would be higher, and they wouldn't need to work.
First, wages might not be appreciably higher; more jobs might have been outsourced and are economy might be even shittier than it is now. More importantly, though, women would then be dependent on their father, husband, or sugardaddy for a livelihood. Now they can get a job and live wherever they want to live, say whatever they want to say, and do whatever they want to do with themselves. |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:30 PM Author: stimulating sexy temple They could always do that, no matter what your womyn's studies professor with the bob cut told you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802512) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 4:39 PM Author: Turquoise area 2 - that's exactly it, this isn't a closed economy. With globalization the US would have been even more fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15802590) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:49 PM Author: histrionic fiercely-loyal shrine electric furnace what the hell are you talking about. your a retarded faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809907) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 4:14 PM Author: Turquoise area Look moron, if the US keeps women at home all that will happen is that US families will get poorer. Men can't get paid more since price is restrained by foreign competition. Since the US would be the only industrialized nation with women not in the workplace the US would quickly get surpassed by everyone else. Wait - I know you want to say something dumb. Reread this first and THINK about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15811312) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:56 PM Author: impressive cracking internal respiration this is one of the dumbest threads i have ever read, with the exception of your post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15809968) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:05 PM Author: concupiscible purple tanning salon pozpig There's a lot of over-generalization, but as I meet more women over the age of 35, many of them do have the sense that something went wrong in their lives. The generation of women who will near the end of their childbearing years in the next decade were really the guinea pigs for the second-wave feminists, and a lot of them are unhappy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810062) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:07 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator take a look around. there are a lot of unhappy people in the world/this country right now. it's dishonest of you to focus in on some purportedly unhappy 35 y/o women to try to make your little point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810080) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:16 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe Look, here's the problem:
US culture has deeply ingrained into middle and upper-class women the idea that they are failures if they don't compete in the paid economy. Feminism has promoted the idea that not only should women be allowed into the previously male working world, but also that women should not limit themselves to traditional female roles. Unsurprisingly, many women come to realize eventually that the working world sucks and that the traditional female roles could actually have been rewarding. However, it often takes so many years for them to come to this conclusion that they've already wasted their best years working for some asshole corporation.
Please read this and you'll see that I'm not being anti-woman: http://www.amazon.com/Radical-Homemakers-Reclaiming-Domesticity-Consumer/dp/0979439116 |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:34 PM Author: 180 bronze skinny woman state I agree that some supposed "feminists" are really just into telling women what to do (work a traditionally-male paid job!), rather than ensuring they have a choice.
I know my wife feels social pressure not to "just" be a homemaker. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:41 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe ty. The social pressure is strong, and considering how much work sucks it generally results in negative outcomes for the women, the men (who get lower wages), and the children (who have to go to daycare). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810325) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 2:31 PM Author: 180 bronze skinny woman state " it generally results in negative outcomes for the women, the men (who get lower wages), and the children (who have to go to daycare)."
the social pressure might cause negative results, but the availability of the work option doesn't (in my opinion). |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:52 PM Author: concupiscible purple tanning salon pozpig I think where 70s feminism kind of fucked up was that they encouraged women to reject valuing themselves solely as a good wife and mother, but they didn't provide an alternative model, so the model that emerged was just a woman doing a man's work just like a man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810396) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:27 PM Author: concupiscible purple tanning salon pozpig Well, I don't think I'll be able to link you to stats that show that radically changing the life goals and family structure of a generation of women hasn't had some adverse or unintended consequences, but we can still talk about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810228) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:30 PM Author: beady-eyed startled locus We should IQ-test any couple that has kids, and the dumber of the two takes over the shit work regardless of sex. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810258) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:33 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe Women have certain anatomical advantages. Breastmilk is good for babies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810273) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:34 PM Author: beady-eyed startled locus They might have invented ways to deal with that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810284) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 3:08 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage Sorry, the rent-a-womb is still in development. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810972) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 5:53 PM Author: pale menage There's no such thing as a breast pump, or anything like that? Mommy needs to nurse babby on her udders all the time?
I wonder how working moms do it!!!!111 |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:37 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage Many women actually do not respond well to suction machines. It has something to do with machines not invoking the same hormonal responses as babies--apparently we're not robots.
Women who work generally end up paying for inferior childcare because they are unable to provide for their own offspring. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:44 PM Author: pale menage Good, then they can all stay out of the workplace, and fuck your so-called "disability leave." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15814734) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 11:29 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage You sound pissed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15815374) |
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Date: August 18th, 2010 10:05 AM Author: Red community account Let the mommy wars begin! CLASSIC battle between SAHM and everybody else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15817801) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 4:11 PM Author: fuchsia exhilarant university no, they haven't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15811293) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:38 PM Author: concupiscible purple tanning salon pozpig Well, that's not what we're doing. The question was whether or not teaching girls and young women that the ONLY way to be just as "good" or valuable to society is to go out and beat men at their own game was a good idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810305) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:41 PM Author: beady-eyed startled locus Women can't think on their own. Does this shock you?
Some are still pretty intelligent in their own ways and definitely should NOT be limiting themselves to ankle-biter patrol. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:42 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe I don't really think many people are denying that some women can provide great contributions to society outside the home. It's the pressure to do so and the denigration of traditional roles that's the problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810332) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:05 PM Author: fluffy kitty "They do what they wanna do say what they wanna say"
MC Hammer is a pumo? |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:05 PM Author: exciting dilemma masturbator cr
to add to #1, there are other ways to incentivize child raising.
in regards to #2, credited. wages didn't really start going down until outsourcing took off. maybe back in the day men had the luxury of less competition with women out of the workforce, but they're not entitled to that, and their gain was womens' loss. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:17 PM Author: concupiscible purple tanning salon pozpig Real wages have been declining since the 1970s. http://macroblog.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/real_average_hourly_earnings_long_series.gif (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810150) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:19 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe ty
I was about to respond as such.
It's really no coincidence that more competition in the labor force (ie more women working) would result in lower wages per person. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:23 PM Author: beady-eyed startled locus Perhaps the dipshit men AND dipshit women should be exiled to vacuuming and shit-shoveling, and leave the smarts to do something productive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810187) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:25 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe Dumb people breeding more than smart people is also a problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810202) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:26 PM Author: beady-eyed startled locus No, your the problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810220) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:27 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe Do you believe in the heritability of intelligence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810233) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:29 PM Author: beady-eyed startled locus We don't need millions of 140+ iq faggots anyway. Better if the 100-120s do all the breeding. Leave the higher thinking to others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810247) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:29 PM Author: Electric sweet tailpipe lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810250) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:31 PM Author: beady-eyed startled locus Being too smart is isolating, bra. I'd give up 40 points to be a non-fug with a social life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810267) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:16 PM Author: beady-eyed startled locus Parenthood is a trap for the week-of-mind and the sheep with no creativity or goals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810141) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:37 PM Author: 180 bronze skinny woman state bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810298) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:38 PM Author: beady-eyed startled locus Who in their right mind would want to bring a screaming sack of shit into their life and spend money on it? It has to be social conditioning, because it sure ain't rational. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810304) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 2:19 PM Author: learning disabled coiffed school normal women for 20000000 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810574) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 2:25 PM Author: beady-eyed startled locus They had absolutely no say in the matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810626) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 3:11 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage You've apparently never heard of "evolution." It's this fancy new scientific concept formulated a mere century and a half ago, so I can see how you might have missed it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810997) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 5:54 PM Author: pale menage ROFL you stupid bitch, we don't make our decisions based on evolution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15812058) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 10:44 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage Oh right, that's why men date fat chicks with good personalities instead of airheads with good figures. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15814724) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:21 PM Author: histrionic fiercely-loyal shrine electric furnace reminder: fucklaw is a retarded faggot with a tiny shoe size (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810174) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 2:16 PM Author: Know-it-all very tactful headpube aren't we forgetting about the flip side of the coin here? tons of men don't want to be monogamous and are just dating around & doing the pump and dump. women need that paycheck to support themselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15810553) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 6:17 PM Author: Vengeful wonderful trailer park thread like this one are really about this:
http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Male-Power-Warren-Farrell/dp/0425181448 |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 3:27 PM Author: Orange vivacious sneaky criminal stage Most women I know don't consider themselves feminists or see feminism as relevant to their lives. The feminists I have known fall into three categories: academics, lesbians, and angry.
People find many ways to be unhappy. For all of the 30 yr old women who realize that they're not as pretty and young as they used to be and can't attract the same quality of men as they could in their 20s, there are plenty of 20 yr olds with two kids who don't understand why their marriage is falling apart.
Feminism has made itself irrelevant to the lives of women by over-focusing on rape (hint: most of us aren't raped on a regular basis) and pornography while neglecting the daily lives of most women in this country. The result is that when women do identify as feminists, it is usually to protest the 'patriarchical rape culture' or as a motivation for foregoing human interaction in favor of corporate employment. The result is a bunch of women who could be benefited by feminism if they realized that just because they were stupid enough to have a kid at 18 with a guy they'd know for two weeks does not mean they should marry him, and on the flip side a bunch of women who are miserable, old, and alone. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 4:04 PM Author: learning disabled coiffed school cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1397094&forum_id=2#15811260) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 6:02 PM Author: Arousing Twisted Theatre "I AM WOMAN, HEAR ME ROAR"
-Helen Reddy, 1972 |