\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Airdrop

PMBR projected score

PMBR estimates that your actual MBE score will be 36 points ...
bossy obsidian turdskin
  07/16/05
I have heard that there are eerie similarities between your ...
Filthy garrison ape
  07/16/05
You mean PMBR scaled score = actual MBE raw score? Is it ...
bossy obsidian turdskin
  07/16/05
Yes, yes, and yes. I have heard that the PMBR questions a...
Filthy garrison ape
  07/16/05
My PMBR raw score was higher than my Barbri score but only b...
bossy obsidian turdskin
  07/16/05
How many PMBR questions do you do in a row, say for the blue...
mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house
  07/16/05
I did not do PMBR questions before I took the PMBR exam. I o...
bossy obsidian turdskin
  07/16/05
I stopped doing barbri except for the advanced which are muc...
mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house
  07/16/05
BB advanced is harder in some subjects. My scores went down ...
Big senate
  07/16/05
what do you mean by "advanced"...the sets 5 and 6?
effete sapphire trump supporter mental disorder
  07/16/08
I wouldnt worry about how many you're doing, because you're ...
soul-stirring wagecucks
  07/16/05
I got a 144 on the simulated MBE. I'm taking the pmbr pract...
mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house
  07/16/05
Is that raw? SHITE! I am a dumbass.
Filthy garrison ape
  07/16/05
Yeah, I think it said 144 was 97th percentile. I'm starting...
mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house
  07/16/05
Congrats on the score and good luck with the very crap-shoot...
Filthy garrison ape
  07/16/05
Thanks, but also your 121 is fine. That'd be passing with t...
mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house
  07/16/05
CA... I am sitting here studying CA ethics and then I am ...
Filthy garrison ape
  07/16/05
Oh shit, that reminds me I need to study professional respon...
mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house
  07/16/05
I didn't study for the MPRE at all, yet I passed (barely). ...
Filthy garrison ape
  07/16/05
PMBR
Bronze Telephone Gaming Laptop
  07/13/07
That test is freakin hard. So Is PMBR saying if you can...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/16/08
I heard the test was a disaster today. How'd you do?
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/16/08
I whooping 105 Im effing Oliver Wendell Holmes. How about...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/16/08
I think 105 is very good. What were the questons like? Rea...
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/16/08
A little of both honestly. Some of the answer choices are s...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/16/08
I'm perturbed. I scored 105 on barbri I scored 115 on PMBR...
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/16/08
Explain this: Barbri mock ~100. Two weeks later, PMBR Bl...
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/16/08
there's obviously some randomness to it how did you do on P...
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/16/08
The bluebook test? I got a 130. 62/68 split.
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/16/08
no the actual 3 day course one they are giving now
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/16/08
Have yet to take it. How'd you do, dood?
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/16/08
surprisingly well (115), after about 12 days of flipping my ...
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/16/08
Flipping your shit = ? What was your study method? ty ty
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/16/08
massive #s of multiple choices, actually spending almost as ...
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/16/08
Does PMBR come up with new questions every year? If so, w...
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/16/08
Can anyone answer this question?
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/16/08
I think they have some new questions each year, but the test...
Shimmering curious point circlehead
  07/17/08
People who went: I have the materials from the test last sum...
deranged patrolman
  07/16/08
Apparently it does not get harder than the PMBR simulated MB...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/16/08
114 PMBR & 136 barbri - can i throw my red book and mpq ...
garnet heady tank blood rage
  07/16/08
this is a legit ques are you taking NY? seriously, if you'...
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/16/08
yeah NY and NJ... i'd love to know what i need on that MPT c...
garnet heady tank blood rage
  07/16/08
Where are you BK clerking? (don't want you to out yourself o...
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/16/08
ill be in a fly-over city in the 11th cir. at least by bnkr ...
garnet heady tank blood rage
  07/16/08
Im hoping for this too. Other than SDNY...do you know or he...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/16/08
another grad from my school (teir 2) apparently had a bunch ...
garnet heady tank blood rage
  07/16/08
Delaware is one of probably the other few states that have a...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/16/08
DE def has a great practice
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/16/08
I know I almost feel guilty cheering on the recession but th...
garnet heady tank blood rage
  07/16/08
LOL, yeah I know the feeling. We are just economic ambulanc...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/17/08
It's not necessarily economic ambulance chasing. Massive Cha...
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/17/08
Wills SUCKS! And thanks for the congratulations...seems y...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/17/08
Im clerking for a BK judge myself this next year. I hope th...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/16/08
TX BK clerkship?
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/16/08
Yup....Not as cool as the SDNY...but in a big city so it wil...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/16/08
congrats. I'm going transactional but I have a theory that ...
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/16/08
I've heard that to be a good Bankruptcy attorney (obviously ...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/16/08
I'm taking it friday. Worth going to the review sessions th...
Useless self-absorbed round eye theatre
  07/16/08
Im going tomorrow to try it out. Barbri was helpful in th...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/16/08
Did the Bar/Bri simulated MBE lectures get progressively les...
deranged patrolman
  07/16/08
As for the review classes. If you don't have a basic unders...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/17/08
You had the first day of the class today right? Was it wort...
Mahogany parlor
  07/17/08
To each there own. A 108 is a fine score and you probably d...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/17/08
thanks for the info.
Mahogany parlor
  07/17/08
No problem. Good Luck.
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/17/08
I just have the books from last year. This is different than...
indecent pisswyrm dog poop
  07/16/08
I went up 41 points from PMBR raw to MBE scaled (119 to 160)...
bateful frozen hissy fit
  07/17/08
PMBR 3-day
Pearly Resort Toilet Seat
  07/17/08
wow
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/17/08
Damn man...you have done alot of questions. Im not trying...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/18/08
yeah, I know their 3day tests exceptions to the exceptions, ...
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/18/08
PMBR 3-day: 125. Scaled: 161. switch to NY law?
histrionic hell liquid oxygen
  07/18/08
Switch
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/18/08
http://lifeatthebar.wordpress.com/2006/10/03/pmbr-infringed-...
Pearly Resort Toilet Seat
  07/18/08
help!
thriller space
  07/18/08
worth going to the 2 days of review after the simulated or a...
wonderful grizzly native karate
  07/18/08
I got a 110 today. I made an "educated guess" on...
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/18/08
so are you going to the explanation classes?
wonderful grizzly native karate
  07/18/08
I think I'm going to go. I think. I dont know any state la...
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/18/08
I got a 105 as well. (I haven't studied much MBE since the ...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/18/08
I got a 117 today. Earlier I got a score of 138 for Bar Bri...
Useless self-absorbed round eye theatre
  07/18/08
congrats. that score is all you need
maroon forum affirmative action
  07/18/08
IN THE GAME. ty for that. All comraderie here.
aggressive international law enforcement agency
  07/18/08
Golden.
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/18/08
"with mid-90's bar bri exam a few weeks back" G...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/18/08
I got a 78 (raw) on the BarBri MBE. I hadn't opened a book t...
dull trip jew location
  07/18/08
We are all just grasping at straws at this point, but above ...
turquoise sweet tailpipe
  07/18/08
pmbr/bar bri
Sepia background story crackhouse
  07/23/08
MPQ2 seems pretty brutal. I'd avoid it if you think a bad s...
Splenetic Vibrant People Who Are Hurt
  07/23/08
where does it say to add 25 points to the blue book raw scor...
vengeful contagious boistinker chapel
  07/23/08
in the beginning of the red book. i'd hope the mpq2 isn't...
Sepia background story crackhouse
  07/23/08
awesome, thanks
vengeful contagious boistinker chapel
  07/23/08
Okay, so I ended up with a 151 Raw and a 165 on the actual M...
Sepia background story crackhouse
  10/10/08
PMBR 3 day was in no way indicative of my performance either...
Spruce harsh corn cake azn
  10/11/08


Poast new message in this thread



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 4:51 PM
Author: bossy obsidian turdskin

PMBR estimates that your actual MBE score will be 36 points higher than your PMBR raw score. Any truth to this? Care to comment?

Also, they said that a 95 raw on the PMBR practice exam is the average score. How can they tell if they did not collect answer sheets from the participats of the 3-day seminar? Seems like it was only based on past statistics.

Comments?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314418)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 4:56 PM
Author: Filthy garrison ape

I have heard that there are eerie similarities between your PMBR scaled score and the actual MBE score.

I think that one who reviews the correct responses will perform substantially better on the actual bar, because a lot of the questions discussed on the simulated exam were at the margin - testing the exception to the exception. For one, I didn't know about the efficacy of a life tenant removing trade fixtures in the course of good husbandry. I do now, though.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314447)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 5:02 PM
Author: bossy obsidian turdskin

You mean PMBR scaled score = actual MBE raw score?

Is it a generally accepted view that PMBR questions are tougher than actual MBE questions? And for that matter, tougher than BARBRI questions?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314494)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 5:23 PM
Author: Filthy garrison ape

Yes, yes, and yes.

I have heard that the PMBR questions are a bit more difficult, while BarBri are easier.

How did you do on PMBR? My raw score and percentile dropped from BarBri, but my scaled improved.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314619)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 5:46 PM
Author: bossy obsidian turdskin

My PMBR raw score was higher than my Barbri score but only by a couple or so more points. If PMBR is indeed higher, then this should suggest that I am improving. In any case, my scores are higher than average but not enough for me to relax. :)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314799)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 5:51 PM
Author: mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house

How many PMBR questions do you do in a row, say for the blue book, before stopping and checking your answers? The book recommends doing 50 but that seems kind of high. I usually do 25 in a row and average around 17-21 correct with crim being the low-end and con law the high-end.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314836)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 5:53 PM
Author: bossy obsidian turdskin

I did not do PMBR questions before I took the PMBR exam. I only did BarBri in sets of 33 or 34, as per the BarBri Paced Program.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314853)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 5:54 PM
Author: mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house

I stopped doing barbri except for the advanced which are much easier than the pmbr red and blue book questions.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314855)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 6:22 PM
Author: Big senate

BB advanced is harder in some subjects. My scores went down when I shifted to advanced torts.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315089)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:08 PM
Author: effete sapphire trump supporter mental disorder

what do you mean by "advanced"...the sets 5 and 6?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980008)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 6:36 PM
Author: soul-stirring wagecucks

I wouldnt worry about how many you're doing, because you're way above passing on the MBE with 17-21 out of 25.

If you score on the low end (17 = 68%) you're looking at a scaled score of 140-150.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315245)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 6:37 PM
Author: mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house

I got a 144 on the simulated MBE. I'm taking the pmbr practice test tomorrow (hoping for a 150). I need at least a 150 raw mbe to carry over my state score since I don't know shit about FL law down here.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315260)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 6:41 PM
Author: Filthy garrison ape

Is that raw? SHITE! I am a dumbass.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315300)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 6:43 PM
Author: mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house

Yeah, I think it said 144 was 97th percentile. I'm starting to learn FL law tomorrow. I haven't read any essay questions or read the miniconviser. I need at least a 110 in FL so that my MBE can balance me out to the 136 avg I need for both.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315320)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 6:47 PM
Author: Filthy garrison ape

Congrats on the score and good luck with the very crap-shooty approach to the bar.

I only scored 121 raw.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315364)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 6:49 PM
Author: mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house

Thanks, but also your 121 is fine. That'd be passing with the upwards adjustment of 15 pnts or so. I'm starting FL law tomorrow, I really am. What state are you taking?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315372)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 6:52 PM
Author: Filthy garrison ape

CA...

I am sitting here studying CA ethics and then I am taking my flashcards to a soccer game. What a fun life.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315408)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 6:54 PM
Author: mildly autistic excitant step-uncle's house

Oh shit, that reminds me I need to study professional responsibility to add stuff for every essay and also to get the barbri mpre guide for the aug 12th test that I finally signed up for.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315429)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2005 6:56 PM
Author: Filthy garrison ape

I didn't study for the MPRE at all, yet I passed (barely). That's pretty simple.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315452)



Reply

Date: July 13th, 2007 5:08 PM
Author: Bronze Telephone Gaming Laptop
Subject: PMBR

Bump for relevance...

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#8379556)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 5:33 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

That test is freakin hard.

So Is PMBR saying if you can break 100 on it then you are in good shape for the MBE?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979547)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 7:03 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

I heard the test was a disaster today. How'd you do?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979826)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 7:30 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

I whooping 105 Im effing Oliver Wendell Holmes.

How about you.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979891)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 7:38 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

I think 105 is very good. What were the questons like? Really difficult or shit-we've-never-covered difficult?

I take it in a couple days

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979921)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 7:44 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

A little of both honestly. Some of the answer choices are so slightly different its a coin toss...other questions are "What the Eff?"

Then there are some you can do in your sleep.

I believe the average is like 95 or something so I guess anything above that puts you into the pass zone...maybe not with flying colors but P for pass baby.

I also have not done many questions...With the BarBri Simulated MBE maybe I have done like 400.

So take my idiocy for what its worth.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979940)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:10 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

I'm perturbed.

I scored 105 on barbri

I scored 115 on PMBR

granted, I have kicked my studying into insane gear, but is it me or was it really a harder test?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980017)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:09 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

Explain this: Barbri mock ~100.

Two weeks later, PMBR Blue = 130. One week after that Barbri Book 2 full day test = 126.

WTF?!



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980191)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:16 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

there's obviously some randomness to it

how did you do on PMBR full MBE practice?

I have a suspicion that you should be fine, particularly given your upticks

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980206)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:19 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

The bluebook test? I got a 130. 62/68 split.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980219)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:23 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

no the actual 3 day course one they are giving now

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980232)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:29 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

Have yet to take it. How'd you do, dood?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980244)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 10:01 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

surprisingly well (115), after about 12 days of flipping my shit on the MBE

so now it's time to flip my shit over the essays

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980331)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 10:10 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

Flipping your shit = ? What was your study method? ty ty

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980352)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 10:35 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

massive #s of multiple choices, actually spending almost as much time reading and understanding all the answers as doing them (even for the ones I got right)

also began to really read outlines, but that was secondary

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980429)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 7:06 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

Does PMBR come up with new questions every year?

If so, why do they test particular subjects/topics and not others? Do they have any special insight into the exam -- or are they just guessing? (I realize they were busted for copying questions awhile back...)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979829)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:40 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

Can anyone answer this question?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980276)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 12:56 AM
Author: Shimmering curious point circlehead

I think they have some new questions each year, but the tests aren't entirely new. Our guy kept saying that so and so was a new question this year.

As for what they test on, I don't think they have any special information. They take the most heavily tested areas and have people create really nitpicky questions in those areas. They also seemed to test different aspects of the same or related rules.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980830)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 7:06 PM
Author: deranged patrolman

People who went: I have the materials from the test last summer. Should I bother taking it? I got 110 on the Bar/Bri one without studying very much, and have done only a tiny bit more studying since then.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979830)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 7:32 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

Apparently it does not get harder than the PMBR simulated MBE. If you beat the average you are probably in pretty good shape.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979895)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:00 PM
Author: garnet heady tank blood rage

114 PMBR & 136 barbri - can i throw my red book and mpq in the garbage?

assuming i can repeat on the 30th and pull ~150, can i skip the MPT and spend the full 3 hours on those last 2 NY essays? (and still pass)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979989)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:13 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

this is a legit ques

are you taking NY?

seriously, if you're able to do this well, what are the scores you need on the MPT and essays to reach the great, GLORIOUS P?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980022)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:29 PM
Author: garnet heady tank blood rage

yeah NY and NJ... i'd love to know what i need on that MPT cuz i've done shit for it and i'm not really stoked about writing a close universe memo in 90 minutes – generally, I like to actually think and digest the subject matter before I write any sort of work product (which this part of the exam is supposedly testing)…

I’m pretty sure I’d get fired day 1 if I spent only 90 minutes writing my judge a bench memo.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980066)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:39 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

Where are you BK clerking? (don't want you to out yourself or anything, but it does seem to be hot right now)

yes, I have done FUCK ALL for the MPT, other than the two barbri had us write.

I'm also atrocious on state specific stuff

(shuffles off to read Wills outline)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980092)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:06 PM
Author: garnet heady tank blood rage

ill be in a fly-over city in the 11th cir. at least by bnkr world standards, which is basically divided into SDNY and all else... nonetheless considering the current state of the economy I hope job prospects for bnkr clerks will pick up as the economy continues to thank… in fact, i know a SDNY bnkr clerk that got recently got an offer at davis polk… but I dunno how good of a predication that is



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980173)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:22 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

Im hoping for this too. Other than SDNY...do you know or hear of the big firms (not necessarily NY) that are hiring BK clerks?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980228)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:38 PM
Author: garnet heady tank blood rage

another grad from my school (teir 2) apparently had a bunch offers in the NYC - but he was in Delaware BK... so again im not sure if that much of an indication...

... im still hoping they'll get rid of the affilate rule so we see some diversity in venue

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980269)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:53 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

Delaware is one of probably the other few states that have a serious Bankruptcy Practice at all. That is probably not a real indicator. But the way the Economy is going right now I would kinda suprised if nothing pretty decent rolled our way.

NYC (class all by itself...it is mecca for Bankruptcy)

Then probably

Chicago/Delaware

L.A. / Houston/Dallas Ft. Worth

Atlanta.

Any more?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980305)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 10:03 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

DE def has a great practice

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980335)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 11:22 PM
Author: garnet heady tank blood rage

I know I almost feel guilty cheering on the recession but the downturn in the US economy is primarily what led me to look into bankruptcy, that and an awesome BK professor that made the code look easy… regardless after my stint in the south clerking I intend to head back to the big apple where I anticipate bankruptcy practice will boom in the foreseeable future as housing crisis ripples through the economy. As liquidly dries, DIP financing will become the new source of financing for flailing corporate America…

this may seem like a gloomy outlook but only time will tell...



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980558)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 9:03 AM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

LOL, yeah I know the feeling. We are just economic ambulance chasers.

Ah so you went to school up there in NY?

Im not hell bent on NYC, but will be throwing a resume to a few firms up there as a long shot and see what comes back.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9981368)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 6:33 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

It's not necessarily economic ambulance chasing. Massive Chapter 11s are becoming the thing of the past. The future of consensual out of court restructuring is extremely bright, given the general amount of leverage out on most companies now.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9983199)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 9:04 AM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

Wills SUCKS!

And thanks for the congratulations...seems you are doing very well yourself.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9981371)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:44 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

Im clerking for a BK judge myself this next year. I hope the firms will be hiring bankruptcy clerks.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980106)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:47 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

TX BK clerkship?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980118)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:48 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

Yup....Not as cool as the SDNY...but in a big city so it will work for me.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980121)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:05 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

congrats.

I'm going transactional but I have a theory that the future of M&A is going to be largely intertwined with BK as more and more acquisitions are debt-based

(besides, the guys who do the DIP financing stuff for the big-guys have balls of steal)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980169)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:13 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

I've heard that to be a good Bankruptcy attorney (obviously we are talking the big guys here) you have to have balls of steal.

You bring up an excellent point about M&A possibly being intertwined with BK. That would be interesting. (and probably the way of it for a little while)



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980198)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:09 PM
Author: Useless self-absorbed round eye theatre

I'm taking it friday. Worth going to the review sessions this weekend?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980010)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 8:42 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

Im going tomorrow to try it out.

Barbri was helpful in the review...It stands to reason PMBR is too.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980101)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 9:55 PM
Author: deranged patrolman

Did the Bar/Bri simulated MBE lectures get progressively less helpful, or did I just lose focus because I did them all in one day.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980310)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 5:34 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

As for the review classes. If you don't have a basic understanding of the law and get decent scores on practice MBE's then your time would be better spent reviewing basic stuff. The class is more for the advanced questions.

But to each their own

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9982951)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 5:47 PM
Author: Mahogany parlor

You had the first day of the class today right? Was it worth going to? I'm torn. Got a 108 on the test, not great, but not terrible either. Thing is, I think a lot of the questions I missed wasn't because I didn't know the law, it was just that I got tricked by some dick move they pulled, or it was just a really obscure topic. I kind of feel like doing state stuff might be more beneficial than learning about trade fixtures etc (which I can just look up in the conviser). What do you think?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9983011)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 6:34 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

To each there own. A 108 is a fine score and you probably don't need too much more help. Im in your same boat about knowing the law but getting tripped up on something stupid. It does help going through the questions very carefully and really keep an eye out for how they can trip you.

As I said...to each their own. If you are weak in state law right now, then I would probably say study that. If you are comfortable with everything and are just looking to fine tune, then maybe the review course would be good for you. It is my understanding that you will get more points by picking the low hanging fruit on the tree than you will going way high up with some deep understanding.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9983202)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 6:58 PM
Author: Mahogany parlor

thanks for the info.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9983294)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 7:40 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

No problem. Good Luck.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9983462)



Reply

Date: July 16th, 2008 10:50 PM
Author: indecent pisswyrm dog poop

I just have the books from last year. This is different than the simulated test in the blue book, right? How do they compare?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980474)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 10:20 AM
Author: bateful frozen hissy fit

I went up 41 points from PMBR raw to MBE scaled (119 to 160) so I think they do know what they are talking about. Everyone walked out of last years MBE freaking out about how hard it was (read the threads from last july 25th or so) and everyone I know did well (first time passage rate in NY was insanely high).

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9981500)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 8:54 PM
Author: Pearly Resort Toilet Seat
Subject: PMBR 3-day

Ok...

Volume I (Redbook) = 62% overall

Volume II (Bluebook) = 73% overall

PMBR 3-day = 98 raw score (134 scaled)

Anyone tell me what to expect on the real exam?

I have done 3000 PMBR, 1000 micromash and two sims.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9983705)



Reply

Date: July 17th, 2008 11:56 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

wow

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9984254)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 12:41 AM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

Damn man...you have done alot of questions.

Im not trying to be a jerk on here or anything, but are you really reading the explanations and retaining any information?



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9984379)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 6:50 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

yeah, I know their 3day tests exceptions to the exceptions, but if you've done that many, you should've scored a bit higher

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986741)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 11:50 AM
Author: histrionic hell liquid oxygen

PMBR 3-day: 125.

Scaled: 161.

switch to NY law?



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9985262)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 1:49 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

Switch

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9985641)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 6:05 PM
Author: Pearly Resort Toilet Seat

http://lifeatthebar.wordpress.com/2006/10/03/pmbr-infringed-ncbes-copyright/

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986590)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 6:20 PM
Author: thriller space
Subject: help!

so got a 113 today (raw score) on pmbr, am I doing ok? I felt so demoralized since I had spent all week reviewing. I had gotten a 118 on barbri a couple of weeks ago. Should I keep studying MBE stuff or focus on NY hardcore (have done not so much for that)??

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986649)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 6:28 PM
Author: wonderful grizzly native karate

worth going to the 2 days of review after the simulated or are the supplied explanations in the book sufficient?

i got a 105 and this was after some serious studying, so i'm kinda worried.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986679)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 6:40 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

I got a 110 today. I made an "educated guess" on almost every question. I found the evidence questions preposterously hard and a TON of the property questions were about mortgages and deeds.

I guess my score is OK. On the other hand, I could easily have scored 20+ points lower, if I had been less lucky with my guesses.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986705)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 6:43 PM
Author: wonderful grizzly native karate

so are you going to the explanation classes?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986714)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 6:46 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

I think I'm going to go. I think. I dont know any state law, though, so this is getting a little bit preposterous.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986727)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 6:46 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

I got a 105 as well. (I haven't studied much MBE since the BarBri simulated exam.)

I just finished up the review sessions. The review sessions are good for advanced review. It seems by your score that you are ready for some really nit picky tricks and trips the MBE can throw at you. I would advise anybody under a 90 to review more basic law.

Its hard to sit there for 2 days all day when you know you have a mountian of state law to tackle (and if you are really behind then maybe you should just study state law because with an MBE score over 100 you are going to do well enough on the MBE...at least I hope).

Its your call looking at what you need. There is no silver bullett here.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986728)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 7:08 PM
Author: Useless self-absorbed round eye theatre

I got a 117 today. Earlier I got a score of 138 for Bar Bri. I hadn't been doing any PMBR questions and I guess there you go...

I plan on going to the review sessions. I think that at this point, that is going to be the last MBE stuff I do *besides two mid week 100Q's in the PMBR blue book* and I think its worth my time - if only so that in test day I can remember 3-4 helpful things, that may be all I need.

Also, I figure I am going to be doing an absurd amount of state - law cramming, so it might be easier to switch it up with a live lecture.

In any case, the average today was a 95. IF you get in the top 50% on the bar exam you are more than fine. It said to add something like 36 points, and I believe it. So it sounds like everyone on this board at least is doing fine. I overheard a few girls talk about how they were "in the game" with mid-90's bar bri exam a few weeks back - that is our competition.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986786)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 7:10 PM
Author: maroon forum affirmative action

congrats. that score is all you need

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986790)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 7:46 PM
Author: aggressive international law enforcement agency

IN THE GAME.

ty for that. All comraderie here.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986855)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 8:28 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

Golden.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986993)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 8:29 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

"with mid-90's bar bri exam a few weeks back"

Good lord... I would have killself



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9987001)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 7:30 PM
Author: dull trip jew location

I got a 78 (raw) on the BarBri MBE. I hadn't opened a book the entire summer before that test. I've studied a decent amount the last 10 days but haven't done any questions. I got a 97 (raw), 133 (scaled) on the PMBR today. I will be ok right?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986832)



Reply

Date: July 18th, 2008 8:27 PM
Author: turquoise sweet tailpipe

We are all just grasping at straws at this point, but above average has to be enough...

THE AVERAGE STUDENT PASSES...and passes pretty easily at that.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986989)



Reply

Date: July 23rd, 2008 6:23 PM
Author: Sepia background story crackhouse
Subject: pmbr/bar bri

so, i took the blue pmbr simulated mbe today and i got 132/200 and that scaled to be a 157 (with the recommend 25 pt).. does anyone know if that is accurate reflection of the mbe at all?

i got a 109 on both the bar/bri and pmbr 3-day simulated. and a 68/100 on the bar bri half/day.

should i bother taking the simulated exam in the mpq2? if my score drops again, i'm afraid i'll just freak myself out.

and i've heard mixed things..

is it true that our raw pmbr score + 36 points may reflect our actual mbe score?



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#10002803)



Reply

Date: July 23rd, 2008 6:26 PM
Author: Splenetic Vibrant People Who Are Hurt

MPQ2 seems pretty brutal. I'd avoid it if you think a bad score at this point will trash your confidence (like it did mine).

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#10002809)



Reply

Date: July 23rd, 2008 6:38 PM
Author: vengeful contagious boistinker chapel

where does it say to add 25 points to the blue book raw score?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#10002832)



Reply

Date: July 23rd, 2008 6:55 PM
Author: Sepia background story crackhouse

in the beginning of the red book.

i'd hope the mpq2 isn't as hard as pmbr 3 day.. i may tough it out anyways and hope for the best.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#10002861)



Reply

Date: July 23rd, 2008 7:04 PM
Author: vengeful contagious boistinker chapel

awesome, thanks

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#10002873)



Reply

Date: October 10th, 2008 7:48 PM
Author: Sepia background story crackhouse

Okay, so I ended up with a 151 Raw and a 165 on the actual MBE.

I never got above a 132 on any of the simulated exams.

109 on pmbr 3 day and bar bri in class

and I think 129 and 132 on the full lengths in both bar bri and pmbr!

So, next year test takers there is hope for you!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#10247705)



Reply

Date: October 11th, 2008 11:37 AM
Author: Spruce harsh corn cake azn

PMBR 3 day was in no way indicative of my performance either.

152 raw on barbri simulated

97 raw on PMBR 3 day

158 raw actual bar

PMBR 3 day only tests useless stuff that has little chance of actually being on the bar. The PMBR bluebook was pretty good though.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#10249955)