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Date: July 16th, 2005 4:51 PM Author: exciting water buffalo pistol PMBR estimates that your actual MBE score will be 36 points higher than your PMBR raw score. Any truth to this? Care to comment?
Also, they said that a 95 raw on the PMBR practice exam is the average score. How can they tell if they did not collect answer sheets from the participats of the 3-day seminar? Seems like it was only based on past statistics.
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Date: July 16th, 2005 4:56 PM Author: Tan cowardly toilet seat I have heard that there are eerie similarities between your PMBR scaled score and the actual MBE score.
I think that one who reviews the correct responses will perform substantially better on the actual bar, because a lot of the questions discussed on the simulated exam were at the margin - testing the exception to the exception. For one, I didn't know about the efficacy of a life tenant removing trade fixtures in the course of good husbandry. I do now, though. |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 5:02 PM Author: exciting water buffalo pistol You mean PMBR scaled score = actual MBE raw score?
Is it a generally accepted view that PMBR questions are tougher than actual MBE questions? And for that matter, tougher than BARBRI questions? |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 5:23 PM Author: Tan cowardly toilet seat Yes, yes, and yes.
I have heard that the PMBR questions are a bit more difficult, while BarBri are easier.
How did you do on PMBR? My raw score and percentile dropped from BarBri, but my scaled improved. |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 5:46 PM Author: exciting water buffalo pistol My PMBR raw score was higher than my Barbri score but only by a couple or so more points. If PMBR is indeed higher, then this should suggest that I am improving. In any case, my scores are higher than average but not enough for me to relax. :) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314799) |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 5:51 PM Author: sadistic orange people who are hurt boiling water How many PMBR questions do you do in a row, say for the blue book, before stopping and checking your answers? The book recommends doing 50 but that seems kind of high. I usually do 25 in a row and average around 17-21 correct with crim being the low-end and con law the high-end. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314836) |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 5:53 PM Author: exciting water buffalo pistol I did not do PMBR questions before I took the PMBR exam. I only did BarBri in sets of 33 or 34, as per the BarBri Paced Program. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314853) |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 5:54 PM Author: sadistic orange people who are hurt boiling water I stopped doing barbri except for the advanced which are much easier than the pmbr red and blue book questions. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3314855) |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 6:22 PM Author: Aqua dashing chapel BB advanced is harder in some subjects. My scores went down when I shifted to advanced torts. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315089) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:08 PM Author: ruby ape what do you mean by "advanced"...the sets 5 and 6? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980008) |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 6:36 PM Author: electric glassy philosopher-king I wouldnt worry about how many you're doing, because you're way above passing on the MBE with 17-21 out of 25.
If you score on the low end (17 = 68%) you're looking at a scaled score of 140-150. |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 6:37 PM Author: sadistic orange people who are hurt boiling water I got a 144 on the simulated MBE. I'm taking the pmbr practice test tomorrow (hoping for a 150). I need at least a 150 raw mbe to carry over my state score since I don't know shit about FL law down here. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315260) |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 6:41 PM Author: Tan cowardly toilet seat Is that raw? SHITE! I am a dumbass. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315300) |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 6:43 PM Author: sadistic orange people who are hurt boiling water Yeah, I think it said 144 was 97th percentile. I'm starting to learn FL law tomorrow. I haven't read any essay questions or read the miniconviser. I need at least a 110 in FL so that my MBE can balance me out to the 136 avg I need for both. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315320) |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 6:47 PM Author: Tan cowardly toilet seat Congrats on the score and good luck with the very crap-shooty approach to the bar.
I only scored 121 raw. |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 6:49 PM Author: sadistic orange people who are hurt boiling water Thanks, but also your 121 is fine. That'd be passing with the upwards adjustment of 15 pnts or so. I'm starting FL law tomorrow, I really am. What state are you taking? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315372) |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 6:52 PM Author: Tan cowardly toilet seat CA...
I am sitting here studying CA ethics and then I am taking my flashcards to a soccer game. What a fun life. |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 6:54 PM Author: sadistic orange people who are hurt boiling water Oh shit, that reminds me I need to study professional responsibility to add stuff for every essay and also to get the barbri mpre guide for the aug 12th test that I finally signed up for. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315429) |
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Date: July 16th, 2005 6:56 PM Author: Tan cowardly toilet seat I didn't study for the MPRE at all, yet I passed (barely). That's pretty simple. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#3315452) |
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Date: July 13th, 2007 5:08 PM Author: abnormal impressive community account toaster Subject: PMBR Bump for relevance... (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#8379556) |
Date: July 16th, 2008 5:33 PM Author: histrionic hospital That test is freakin hard.
So Is PMBR saying if you can break 100 on it then you are in good shape for the MBE? |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 7:03 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin I heard the test was a disaster today. How'd you do? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979826) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 7:30 PM Author: histrionic hospital I whooping 105 Im effing Oliver Wendell Holmes.
How about you. |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 7:38 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin I think 105 is very good. What were the questons like? Really difficult or shit-we've-never-covered difficult?
I take it in a couple days |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 7:44 PM Author: histrionic hospital A little of both honestly. Some of the answer choices are so slightly different its a coin toss...other questions are "What the Eff?"
Then there are some you can do in your sleep.
I believe the average is like 95 or something so I guess anything above that puts you into the pass zone...maybe not with flying colors but P for pass baby.
I also have not done many questions...With the BarBri Simulated MBE maybe I have done like 400.
So take my idiocy for what its worth. |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:10 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian I'm perturbed. I scored 105 on barbri I scored 115 on PMBR granted, I have kicked my studying into insane gear, but is it me or was it really a harder test? |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:09 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin Explain this: Barbri mock ~100.
Two weeks later, PMBR Blue = 130. One week after that Barbri Book 2 full day test = 126.
WTF?!
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:16 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian there's obviously some randomness to it how did you do on PMBR full MBE practice? I have a suspicion that you should be fine, particularly given your upticks |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:19 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin The bluebook test? I got a 130. 62/68 split. |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:23 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian no the actual 3 day course one they are giving now (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980232) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:29 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin Have yet to take it. How'd you do, dood? |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 10:01 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian surprisingly well (115), after about 12 days of flipping my shit on the MBE so now it's time to flip my shit over the essays |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 10:10 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin Flipping your shit = ? What was your study method? ty ty |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 10:35 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian massive #s of multiple choices, actually spending almost as much time reading and understanding all the answers as doing them (even for the ones I got right) also began to really read outlines, but that was secondary |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 7:06 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin Does PMBR come up with new questions every year?
If so, why do they test particular subjects/topics and not others? Do they have any special insight into the exam -- or are they just guessing? (I realize they were busted for copying questions awhile back...) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:40 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin Can anyone answer this question? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980276) |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 12:56 AM Author: deranged alcoholic locale faggot firefighter I think they have some new questions each year, but the tests aren't entirely new. Our guy kept saying that so and so was a new question this year.
As for what they test on, I don't think they have any special information. They take the most heavily tested areas and have people create really nitpicky questions in those areas. They also seemed to test different aspects of the same or related rules. |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 7:06 PM Author: cyan apoplectic nibblets People who went: I have the materials from the test last summer. Should I bother taking it? I got 110 on the Bar/Bri one without studying very much, and have done only a tiny bit more studying since then. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979830) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 7:32 PM Author: histrionic hospital Apparently it does not get harder than the PMBR simulated MBE. If you beat the average you are probably in pretty good shape. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9979895) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:00 PM Author: Cerise Piazza Keepsake Machete 114 PMBR & 136 barbri - can i throw my red book and mpq in the garbage?
assuming i can repeat on the 30th and pull ~150, can i skip the MPT and spend the full 3 hours on those last 2 NY essays? (and still pass) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:13 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian this is a legit ques are you taking NY? seriously, if you're able to do this well, what are the scores you need on the MPT and essays to reach the great, GLORIOUS P? |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:29 PM Author: Cerise Piazza Keepsake Machete yeah NY and NJ... i'd love to know what i need on that MPT cuz i've done shit for it and i'm not really stoked about writing a close universe memo in 90 minutes – generally, I like to actually think and digest the subject matter before I write any sort of work product (which this part of the exam is supposedly testing)…
I’m pretty sure I’d get fired day 1 if I spent only 90 minutes writing my judge a bench memo.
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:39 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian Where are you BK clerking? (don't want you to out yourself or anything, but it does seem to be hot right now)
yes, I have done FUCK ALL for the MPT, other than the two barbri had us write. I'm also atrocious on state specific stuff (shuffles off to read Wills outline) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:06 PM Author: Cerise Piazza Keepsake Machete ill be in a fly-over city in the 11th cir. at least by bnkr world standards, which is basically divided into SDNY and all else... nonetheless considering the current state of the economy I hope job prospects for bnkr clerks will pick up as the economy continues to thank… in fact, i know a SDNY bnkr clerk that got recently got an offer at davis polk… but I dunno how good of a predication that is
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:22 PM Author: histrionic hospital Im hoping for this too. Other than SDNY...do you know or hear of the big firms (not necessarily NY) that are hiring BK clerks? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980228) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:38 PM Author: Cerise Piazza Keepsake Machete another grad from my school (teir 2) apparently had a bunch offers in the NYC - but he was in Delaware BK... so again im not sure if that much of an indication...
... im still hoping they'll get rid of the affilate rule so we see some diversity in venue |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:53 PM Author: histrionic hospital Delaware is one of probably the other few states that have a serious Bankruptcy Practice at all. That is probably not a real indicator. But the way the Economy is going right now I would kinda suprised if nothing pretty decent rolled our way.
NYC (class all by itself...it is mecca for Bankruptcy) Then probably Chicago/Delaware L.A. / Houston/Dallas Ft. Worth Atlanta.
Any more? |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 10:03 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian DE def has a great practice (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980335) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 11:22 PM Author: Cerise Piazza Keepsake Machete I know I almost feel guilty cheering on the recession but the downturn in the US economy is primarily what led me to look into bankruptcy, that and an awesome BK professor that made the code look easy… regardless after my stint in the south clerking I intend to head back to the big apple where I anticipate bankruptcy practice will boom in the foreseeable future as housing crisis ripples through the economy. As liquidly dries, DIP financing will become the new source of financing for flailing corporate America…
this may seem like a gloomy outlook but only time will tell...
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Date: July 17th, 2008 9:03 AM Author: histrionic hospital LOL, yeah I know the feeling. We are just economic ambulance chasers.
Ah so you went to school up there in NY?
Im not hell bent on NYC, but will be throwing a resume to a few firms up there as a long shot and see what comes back. |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 6:33 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian It's not necessarily economic ambulance chasing. Massive Chapter 11s are becoming the thing of the past. The future of consensual out of court restructuring is extremely bright, given the general amount of leverage out on most companies now. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9983199) |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 9:04 AM Author: histrionic hospital Wills SUCKS!
And thanks for the congratulations...seems you are doing very well yourself. |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:44 PM Author: histrionic hospital Im clerking for a BK judge myself this next year. I hope the firms will be hiring bankruptcy clerks. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980106) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:47 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian TX BK clerkship? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980118) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:48 PM Author: histrionic hospital Yup....Not as cool as the SDNY...but in a big city so it will work for me. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980121) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:05 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian congrats. I'm going transactional but I have a theory that the future of M&A is going to be largely intertwined with BK as more and more acquisitions are debt-based (besides, the guys who do the DIP financing stuff for the big-guys have balls of steal) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:13 PM Author: histrionic hospital I've heard that to be a good Bankruptcy attorney (obviously we are talking the big guys here) you have to have balls of steal.
You bring up an excellent point about M&A possibly being intertwined with BK. That would be interesting. (and probably the way of it for a little while)
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:09 PM Author: milky provocative field alpha I'm taking it friday. Worth going to the review sessions this weekend? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980010) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 8:42 PM Author: histrionic hospital Im going tomorrow to try it out.
Barbri was helpful in the review...It stands to reason PMBR is too. |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 9:55 PM Author: cyan apoplectic nibblets Did the Bar/Bri simulated MBE lectures get progressively less helpful, or did I just lose focus because I did them all in one day. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980310) |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 5:34 PM Author: histrionic hospital As for the review classes. If you don't have a basic understanding of the law and get decent scores on practice MBE's then your time would be better spent reviewing basic stuff. The class is more for the advanced questions.
But to each their own |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 5:47 PM Author: impertinent area son of senegal You had the first day of the class today right? Was it worth going to? I'm torn. Got a 108 on the test, not great, but not terrible either. Thing is, I think a lot of the questions I missed wasn't because I didn't know the law, it was just that I got tricked by some dick move they pulled, or it was just a really obscure topic. I kind of feel like doing state stuff might be more beneficial than learning about trade fixtures etc (which I can just look up in the conviser). What do you think? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9983011) |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 6:34 PM Author: histrionic hospital To each there own. A 108 is a fine score and you probably don't need too much more help. Im in your same boat about knowing the law but getting tripped up on something stupid. It does help going through the questions very carefully and really keep an eye out for how they can trip you.
As I said...to each their own. If you are weak in state law right now, then I would probably say study that. If you are comfortable with everything and are just looking to fine tune, then maybe the review course would be good for you. It is my understanding that you will get more points by picking the low hanging fruit on the tree than you will going way high up with some deep understanding. |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 6:58 PM Author: impertinent area son of senegal thanks for the info. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9983294) |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 7:40 PM Author: histrionic hospital No problem. Good Luck. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9983462) |
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Date: July 16th, 2008 10:50 PM Author: Cerebral sandwich I just have the books from last year. This is different than the simulated test in the blue book, right? How do they compare? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9980474) |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 10:20 AM Author: blue national security agency I went up 41 points from PMBR raw to MBE scaled (119 to 160) so I think they do know what they are talking about. Everyone walked out of last years MBE freaking out about how hard it was (read the threads from last july 25th or so) and everyone I know did well (first time passage rate in NY was insanely high). (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9981500) |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 8:54 PM Author: gaped corn cake love of her life Subject: PMBR 3-day Ok...
Volume I (Redbook) = 62% overall Volume II (Bluebook) = 73% overall
PMBR 3-day = 98 raw score (134 scaled)
Anyone tell me what to expect on the real exam?
I have done 3000 PMBR, 1000 micromash and two sims. |
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Date: July 17th, 2008 11:56 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin wow (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9984254) |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 12:41 AM Author: histrionic hospital Damn man...you have done alot of questions.
Im not trying to be a jerk on here or anything, but are you really reading the explanations and retaining any information?
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Date: July 18th, 2008 6:50 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian yeah, I know their 3day tests exceptions to the exceptions, but if you've done that many, you should've scored a bit higher (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986741) |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 11:50 AM Author: Bronze messiness senate PMBR 3-day: 125.
Scaled: 161.
switch to NY law?
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Date: July 18th, 2008 1:49 PM Author: histrionic hospital Switch (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9985641) |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 6:05 PM Author: gaped corn cake love of her life http://lifeatthebar.wordpress.com/2006/10/03/pmbr-infringed-ncbes-copyright/ (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986590) |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 6:20 PM Author: metal spectacular associate Subject: help! so got a 113 today (raw score) on pmbr, am I doing ok? I felt so demoralized since I had spent all week reviewing. I had gotten a 118 on barbri a couple of weeks ago. Should I keep studying MBE stuff or focus on NY hardcore (have done not so much for that)?? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986649) |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 6:28 PM Author: Supple frum den worth going to the 2 days of review after the simulated or are the supplied explanations in the book sufficient?
i got a 105 and this was after some serious studying, so i'm kinda worried. |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 6:40 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin I got a 110 today. I made an "educated guess" on almost every question. I found the evidence questions preposterously hard and a TON of the property questions were about mortgages and deeds.
I guess my score is OK. On the other hand, I could easily have scored 20+ points lower, if I had been less lucky with my guesses. |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 6:43 PM Author: Supple frum den so are you going to the explanation classes? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986714) |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 6:46 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin I think I'm going to go. I think. I dont know any state law, though, so this is getting a little bit preposterous. |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 6:46 PM Author: histrionic hospital I got a 105 as well. (I haven't studied much MBE since the BarBri simulated exam.)
I just finished up the review sessions. The review sessions are good for advanced review. It seems by your score that you are ready for some really nit picky tricks and trips the MBE can throw at you. I would advise anybody under a 90 to review more basic law.
Its hard to sit there for 2 days all day when you know you have a mountian of state law to tackle (and if you are really behind then maybe you should just study state law because with an MBE score over 100 you are going to do well enough on the MBE...at least I hope).
Its your call looking at what you need. There is no silver bullett here. |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 7:08 PM Author: milky provocative field alpha I got a 117 today. Earlier I got a score of 138 for Bar Bri. I hadn't been doing any PMBR questions and I guess there you go...
I plan on going to the review sessions. I think that at this point, that is going to be the last MBE stuff I do *besides two mid week 100Q's in the PMBR blue book* and I think its worth my time - if only so that in test day I can remember 3-4 helpful things, that may be all I need.
Also, I figure I am going to be doing an absurd amount of state - law cramming, so it might be easier to switch it up with a live lecture.
In any case, the average today was a 95. IF you get in the top 50% on the bar exam you are more than fine. It said to add something like 36 points, and I believe it. So it sounds like everyone on this board at least is doing fine. I overheard a few girls talk about how they were "in the game" with mid-90's bar bri exam a few weeks back - that is our competition. |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 7:10 PM Author: aphrodisiac garrison persian congrats. that score is all you need (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986790) |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 7:46 PM Author: mauve motley stead foreskin IN THE GAME.
ty for that. All comraderie here. |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 8:28 PM Author: histrionic hospital Golden. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986993) |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 8:29 PM Author: histrionic hospital "with mid-90's bar bri exam a few weeks back"
Good lord... I would have killself
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Date: July 18th, 2008 7:30 PM Author: Spruce titillating partner I got a 78 (raw) on the BarBri MBE. I hadn't opened a book the entire summer before that test. I've studied a decent amount the last 10 days but haven't done any questions. I got a 97 (raw), 133 (scaled) on the PMBR today. I will be ok right? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#9986832) |
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Date: July 18th, 2008 8:27 PM Author: histrionic hospital We are all just grasping at straws at this point, but above average has to be enough...
THE AVERAGE STUDENT PASSES...and passes pretty easily at that. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2008 6:23 PM Author: Silver soggy internal respiration sanctuary Subject: pmbr/bar bri so, i took the blue pmbr simulated mbe today and i got 132/200 and that scaled to be a 157 (with the recommend 25 pt).. does anyone know if that is accurate reflection of the mbe at all?
i got a 109 on both the bar/bri and pmbr 3-day simulated. and a 68/100 on the bar bri half/day.
should i bother taking the simulated exam in the mpq2? if my score drops again, i'm afraid i'll just freak myself out.
and i've heard mixed things.. is it true that our raw pmbr score + 36 points may reflect our actual mbe score?
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Date: July 23rd, 2008 6:26 PM Author: clear stage MPQ2 seems pretty brutal. I'd avoid it if you think a bad score at this point will trash your confidence (like it did mine). (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#10002809) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2008 6:38 PM Author: bright razzmatazz meetinghouse masturbator where does it say to add 25 points to the blue book raw score? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#10002832) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2008 6:55 PM Author: Silver soggy internal respiration sanctuary in the beginning of the red book.
i'd hope the mpq2 isn't as hard as pmbr 3 day.. i may tough it out anyways and hope for the best.
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Date: July 23rd, 2008 7:04 PM Author: bright razzmatazz meetinghouse masturbator awesome, thanks (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=220753&forum_id=2#10002873) |
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Date: October 10th, 2008 7:48 PM Author: Silver soggy internal respiration sanctuary Okay, so I ended up with a 151 Raw and a 165 on the actual MBE. I never got above a 132 on any of the simulated exams. 109 on pmbr 3 day and bar bri in class and I think 129 and 132 on the full lengths in both bar bri and pmbr! So, next year test takers there is hope for you! |
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Date: October 11th, 2008 11:37 AM Author: useless shrine sound barrier PMBR 3 day was in no way indicative of my performance either.
152 raw on barbri simulated
97 raw on PMBR 3 day
158 raw actual bar
PMBR 3 day only tests useless stuff that has little chance of actually being on the bar. The PMBR bluebook was pretty good though. |