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Being a lawn guy beats grilling, golfing, or snobby beer tasting.

Nothing beats a freshly mowed and fertilized lawn.
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
I fucking hate cutting my grass but my wife “likes&rdq...
diverse bearded stead pisswyrm
  05/14/24
you are a mentally retarded jewish pedophile and you don't h...
ocher sneaky criminal
  05/14/24
lots of overlap between lawn and grill guys.
lascivious tattoo parlor
  05/14/24
🙋‍♂️
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
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godawful greedy crackhouse personal credit line
  05/14/24
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Vibrant Self-centered Depressive
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Ungodly gas station sound barrier
  05/14/24
Golfing is the only real hobby on that list.
Hideous ivory idiot
  05/14/24
It's the worst option in there by far.
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
golf is 180 you jewfuck
ocher sneaky criminal
  05/14/24
I quit my country club this year and don't have a single reg...
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
dumb. prices are going up just like housing and everything ...
ocher sneaky criminal
  05/14/24
lol mowing your lawn sucks shit
ocher sneaky criminal
  05/14/24
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Hideous ivory idiot
  05/14/24
I love my golf course lawn. Nothing beats a 1" high cu...
sinister stage
  05/14/24
wait until you get into "advanced lawn guy" stuff ...
godawful greedy crackhouse personal credit line
  05/14/24
lol (((doodikoff))) failed solo, lost his house
sinister stage
  05/14/24
I netted more than $500k after taxes from selling my house b...
godawful greedy crackhouse personal credit line
  05/14/24
Amazing, brother. You are an inspiration for all of us sinne...
motley scourge upon the earth indian lodge
  05/14/24
The key to a well kept lawn is the edging, which is also the...
motley scourge upon the earth indian lodge
  05/14/24
stfu fat fuck you don't know anything.
sinister stage
  05/14/24
100%. An otherwise well groomed lawn looks sloppy and pr...
lascivious tattoo parlor
  05/14/24
I don't edge. 🥲
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
Seems like backyard golf green that you seed, roll, cut your...
Cordovan impressive psychic chapel
  05/14/24
the amount of time and effort it would take to maintain a le...
ocher sneaky criminal
  05/14/24
That's why it's a POWERLAWNGOY move
Cordovan impressive psychic chapel
  05/14/24
lawn work sucks. the key is to keep your lawn as simple and...
Laughsome brilliant locale
  05/14/24
I’ve been considering a natural, no-mow lawn. Certify ...
Hideous ivory idiot
  05/14/24
fuck, i never heard of this. i'm going to plant some milkwee...
Vibrant Self-centered Depressive
  05/14/24
https://ibb.co/GHWwXVS if your property isn't a habitat for ...
Rose cheese-eating travel guidebook dragon
  05/14/24
Not no-mow but I’m about to overseed with micro clover
Avocado athletic conference
  05/15/24
lawns are flame. i've been seeding clover in an attempt to s...
Vibrant Self-centered Depressive
  05/14/24
180
Avocado athletic conference
  05/15/24
Putting lawn care on the same playing field as grilling or g...
vigorous shimmering feces center
  05/14/24
You don’t live in the south right? There is a lot of o...
godawful greedy crackhouse personal credit line
  05/14/24
Fair, yeah maybe it's regional. Here a guy into lawns compar...
vigorous shimmering feces center
  05/14/24
What did lawnbulls do to you?
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
I live in a beautiful neighborhood that was built in the 20s...
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
Lawns and grilling are a common topic of conversation out on...
buff box office
  05/14/24
imagine trying to have a conversation with him about dogs or...
sinister stage
  05/14/24
(gay trailer kike)
Bistre painfully honest twinkling uncleanness factory reset button
  05/14/24
agreed
vigorous shimmering feces center
  05/14/24
yeah among the bitches you play with. grilling yes lawns obv...
vigorous shimmering feces center
  05/14/24
I don't know what to tell you because I have no idea what it...
buff box office
  05/14/24
Go prune your rose bush faggot
vigorous shimmering feces center
  05/14/24
The border is --> that way, pal. Don't let the door hit y...
buff box office
  05/14/24
I know where the border is, that's where I look to hire the ...
vigorous shimmering feces center
  05/14/24
Lawns are lots of work and there’s a lot of bugs out t...
motley scourge upon the earth indian lodge
  05/14/24
Lawnscaping is art. It requires enormous dedication and fore...
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
lawn guys are the biggest fags imaginable, they are just lam...
Effete Impertinent Trust Fund Step-uncle's House
  05/14/24
they're catty fags
Rose cheese-eating travel guidebook dragon
  05/14/24
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vigorous shimmering feces center
  05/14/24
Lmao. Get bent.
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
enjoy your short grass and destroying your local habitat
Effete Impertinent Trust Fund Step-uncle's House
  05/14/24
Enjoy your weeds with cockroaches in them.
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
you mean a meadow?
Effete Impertinent Trust Fund Step-uncle's House
  05/14/24
I am sure your .1 acre "meadow" in a concrete mega...
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
I live adjoining a 15 acre hay field, unfortunately my landl...
Effete Impertinent Trust Fund Step-uncle's House
  05/14/24
If it's a hay field it gets mowed too.
lime plaza roast beef
  05/14/24
twice a year
Effete Impertinent Trust Fund Step-uncle's House
  05/14/24
Cricket anyone?
electric lodge
  05/14/24
I'm just a Lawn Guy from Lawn Guy Land...
Deep toilet seat principal's office
  05/14/24
When home alone, which is rare, I like to walk the lawn bare...
pink office windowlicker
  05/14/24
I Walk The Lawn
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lime plaza roast beef
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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:23 AM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

Nothing beats a freshly mowed and fertilized lawn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659940)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:26 AM
Author: diverse bearded stead pisswyrm

I fucking hate cutting my grass but my wife “likes” doing it so she refuses to let us pay for a lawn service since she says she’d just rather do it so I have to beat her to the mower and do it myself or I look like an asshole in front of the neighborhood for making my wife cut the grass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659941)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: ocher sneaky criminal

you are a mentally retarded jewish pedophile and you don't have a wife and probably don't have a lawn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659967)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:27 AM
Author: lascivious tattoo parlor

lots of overlap between lawn and grill guys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659942)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:32 AM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

🙋‍♂️

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659955)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:15 AM
Author: godawful greedy crackhouse personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660048)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:15 AM
Author: Vibrant Self-centered Depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660209)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:28 AM
Author: Ungodly gas station sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659945)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:28 AM
Author: Hideous ivory idiot

Golfing is the only real hobby on that list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659946)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:13 AM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

It's the worst option in there by far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660040)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: ocher sneaky criminal

golf is 180 you jewfuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660086)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:38 AM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

I quit my country club this year and don't have a single regret.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660123)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:28 AM
Author: ocher sneaky criminal

dumb. prices are going up just like housing and everything else and you'll pay through the dick in initiation if you ever want back in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660433)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: ocher sneaky criminal

lol mowing your lawn sucks shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659968)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:41 AM
Author: Hideous ivory idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47659970)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:16 AM
Author: sinister stage

I love my golf course lawn.

Nothing beats a 1" high cut deep green Kentucky Bluegrass lawn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660054)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:23 AM
Author: godawful greedy crackhouse personal credit line

wait until you get into "advanced lawn guy" stuff like striping attachments for your lawn mower - I have friends who do this and I want one when I get a house again

https://www.amazon.com/Toro-20601-Lawn-Striping-System/dp/B004ZKXYUO/ref=asc_df_B004ZKXYUO/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693308318791&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4640841603144006981&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010937&hvtargid=pla-350224723370&psc=1&mcid=9c51b0c8d2d73a09b5bbc7cb8a496959&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwl4yyBhAgEiwADSEjeIOciF3s2e4vs9Q_zzAdhQJ0yUPUZNi1sJkSNC91n6_8SYzumbgvTRoCSJMQAvD_BwE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660074)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:01 AM
Author: sinister stage

lol (((doodikoff))) failed solo, lost his house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660186)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:29 AM
Author: godawful greedy crackhouse personal credit line

I netted more than $500k after taxes from selling my house brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660250)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:35 AM
Author: motley scourge upon the earth indian lodge

Amazing, brother. You are an inspiration for all of us sinners out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660269)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:25 AM
Author: motley scourge upon the earth indian lodge

The key to a well kept lawn is the edging, which is also the worst part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660083)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:02 AM
Author: sinister stage

stfu fat fuck you don't know anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660189)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:19 AM
Author: lascivious tattoo parlor

100%.

An otherwise well groomed lawn looks sloppy and prole if the edging is not done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660220)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:09 AM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

I don't edge. 🥲

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660386)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:56 AM
Author: Cordovan impressive psychic chapel

Seems like backyard golf green that you seed, roll, cut yourself is peak lawndaddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660173)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: ocher sneaky criminal

the amount of time and effort it would take to maintain a legit green probably would leave you with little time to actually practice putting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660197)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 1:02 PM
Author: Cordovan impressive psychic chapel

That's why it's a POWERLAWNGOY move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660716)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:09 AM
Author: Laughsome brilliant locale

lawn work sucks. the key is to keep your lawn as simple and easy to maintain as possible. that way if your wife wants to plant some tulips in some dirt or something it doesnt matter. the way some of these boomers designed these yards is absurd to me. its like having a swimming pool for a front yard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660199)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:50 AM
Author: Hideous ivory idiot

I’ve been considering a natural, no-mow lawn. Certify that bitch as a Monarch Waypoint.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660315)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:10 AM
Author: Vibrant Self-centered Depressive

fuck, i never heard of this. i'm going to plant some milkweed and get certified like yny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660390)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: Rose cheese-eating travel guidebook dragon

https://ibb.co/GHWwXVS if your property isn't a habitat for 1k woodland critters you're not white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47662037)



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Date: May 15th, 2024 1:05 AM
Author: Avocado athletic conference

Not no-mow but I’m about to overseed with micro clover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47662576)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:17 AM
Author: Vibrant Self-centered Depressive

lawns are flame. i've been seeding clover in an attempt to snuff out the grass. but i'm a native plants faggot. i agree with your underlying point that landscaping and gardening is 180. i just pulled my first radishes yesterday. my peas should start flowering soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660216)



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Date: May 15th, 2024 1:05 AM
Author: Avocado athletic conference

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47662578)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:22 AM
Author: vigorous shimmering feces center

Putting lawn care on the same playing field as grilling or golf is lol. The phenotypes are not matched.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660231)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:30 AM
Author: godawful greedy crackhouse personal credit line

You don’t live in the south right? There is a lot of overlap

I am friends with the son of a prominent us senator, fratty as fuck and makes a lot of money from his nepotism job, that obsesses over his lawn and does all of the work himself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660255)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 12:20 PM
Author: vigorous shimmering feces center

Fair, yeah maybe it's regional. Here a guy into lawns comparing himself to a golfer is like a geek that plays Magic the Gathering comparing himself to a quarterback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660571)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 1:11 PM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

What did lawnbulls do to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660760)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:36 AM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

I live in a beautiful neighborhood that was built in the 20s. I wouldn't expect most Californians to understand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660276)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:58 AM
Author: buff box office

Lawns and grilling are a common topic of conversation out on the course. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660351)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:27 AM
Author: sinister stage

imagine trying to have a conversation with him about dogs or something. Might as well be discussing ancient chinese calligraphy with him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660431)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:28 AM
Author: Bistre painfully honest twinkling uncleanness factory reset button

(gay trailer kike)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660435)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 12:17 PM
Author: vigorous shimmering feces center

agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660565)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 12:17 PM
Author: vigorous shimmering feces center

yeah among the bitches you play with. grilling yes lawns obviously not lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47660561)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: buff box office

I don't know what to tell you because I have no idea what it's like where you came from. Maybe you should go back. But here in America when one of your golfing buddies gets a new tractor or puts up an impressive Christmas light display it's a topic of conversation among the golfing dad set.

Additional easy ways for this to happen is someone mentioning they've been chipping in the backyard. Or somebody mentions they played at shady acres last week and it sucked because the greens had been aerated (oh, we're having our lawn aerated next week, etc.) Or whatever man. I think it's best if you just go back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661477)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: vigorous shimmering feces center

Go prune your rose bush faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661510)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: buff box office

The border is --> that way, pal. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661537)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:23 PM
Author: vigorous shimmering feces center

I know where the border is, that's where I look to hire the Mexicans that maintain my lawn for me. How did this year's zucchini crop fit in your butthold fag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661690)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 4:36 PM
Author: motley scourge upon the earth indian lodge

Lawns are lots of work and there’s a lot of bugs out there.

Grilling is kind of meh, can be mastered in about 4-6 months of practice.

Golf is just expensive and stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661395)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:09 PM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

Lawnscaping is art. It requires enormous dedication and foresight to make a spectacular yard. If you are wondering where all the Michaelangelos went, they are on their zero turns right now.

Grilling/BBQ is art but anyone can become proficient quickly. It is like going to one of those wine and paint places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661491)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 4:53 PM
Author: Effete Impertinent Trust Fund Step-uncle's House

lawn guys are the biggest fags imaginable, they are just lame enough to find running a little machine to be entertaining as they have never run real machinery and the total amount of material waste that goes into some big perfect lawn is enormous, all while destroying natural habitat for native plants and species in the service of...nothing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661447)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:07 PM
Author: Rose cheese-eating travel guidebook dragon

they're catty fags

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661486)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: vigorous shimmering feces center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661512)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

Lmao. Get bent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661538)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:25 PM
Author: Effete Impertinent Trust Fund Step-uncle's House

enjoy your short grass and destroying your local habitat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661543)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:38 PM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

Enjoy your weeds with cockroaches in them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661562)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:41 PM
Author: Effete Impertinent Trust Fund Step-uncle's House

you mean a meadow?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661571)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:08 PM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

I am sure your .1 acre "meadow" in a concrete megalopolis is beautiful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661639)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:10 PM
Author: Effete Impertinent Trust Fund Step-uncle's House

I live adjoining a 15 acre hay field, unfortunately my landlord insists I mow a bunch of lawn too, but the field is much more aesthetically pleasing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661643)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:14 PM
Author: lime plaza roast beef

If it's a hay field it gets mowed too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661653)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 6:27 PM
Author: Effete Impertinent Trust Fund Step-uncle's House

twice a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661701)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 5:44 PM
Author: electric lodge

Cricket anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47661574)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:41 PM
Author: Deep toilet seat principal's office

I'm just a Lawn Guy from Lawn Guy Land...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528360&forum_id=2#47662063)



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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:32 PM
Author: pink office windowlicker

When home alone, which is rare, I like to walk the lawn barefoot, enjoying the dusk, sipping a scotch, enjoy a guilty secret cigarette. Simple pleasures of life.

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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:52 PM
Author: Deep toilet seat principal's office

I Walk The Lawn

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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:11 PM
Author: lime plaza roast beef



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