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Fuck these faggot waiters who were underreporting their tips...
gold lay
  07/03/25
they rewarded UMC libs in blue states and fucked over Trumpm...
aromatic gay wizard church building
  07/03/25
the jews basically saw that the winds had shifted and switch...
gold lay
  07/03/25
whoa brother. cr
Beady-eyed potus
  07/04/25
who is Bill and when can we meet
Smoky rehab
  07/03/25
Get rid of everything. Zero entitlements. Negative entitleme...
Clear round eye
  07/03/25
I don't mind the tips tax. I know when the world was cash an...
twinkling french home skinny woman
  07/03/25
Shut the fuck up you autistic gookcel loser
Clear round eye
  07/03/25
I haven't had sex since Friday.
twinkling french home skinny woman
  07/03/25
Why?
Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/03/25
he had the runz (undercooked dogmeat)
aromatic gay wizard church building
  07/03/25
You’re short and a homo
Clear round eye
  07/03/25
Do you think that spergouts like this are why you've been cu...
Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/03/25
Is there a height requirement to kill people in the military...
Clear round eye
  07/03/25
I'm serious, help me understand how it is you've been cucked...
Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/03/25
all of the above + he's a potato + fat/short + gay tendencie...
aromatic gay wizard church building
  07/04/25
You’ve never had sex And it shows
Clear round eye
  07/03/25
-- they dropped the remittance tax -- they did nothing wi...
Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/03/25
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gold lay
  07/03/25
Re point 3, I thought the bill put new eligibility requireme...
vermilion razzle clown
  07/03/25
i thought that got dropped by the senate a couple days ago.
azure doobsian goal in life national
  07/03/25
I don't think so: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congre...
vermilion razzle clown
  07/03/25
Tyft
Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/03/25
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dun regret hospital
  07/03/25
You didn’t really think it would be any different than...
adventurous garrison telephone
  07/03/25
Having been on the inside and used Palantir products, they a...
Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/03/25
tiNtcr How is Lockheed building Echelon any different th...
ruby nowag ladyboy
  07/04/25
That Lockheed didn't pose any greater of a threat as a vendo...
Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/04/25
TBF the palantir CEO kike bragging about snuffing out the &q...
ruby nowag ladyboy
  07/04/25
Yeah, Karp bragging about that is concerning, but this sort ...
Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/04/25
gpt has had iterations of extreme faggotry but I question wh...
ruby nowag ladyboy
  07/04/25
this is dreadfully naive, brother. just like 9/11 was a CIA...
adventurous garrison telephone
  07/04/25
I don't know how you can call other people naive with a stra...
Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/04/25
brother, I would first like to comment on your underlying ps...
adventurous garrison telephone
  07/04/25
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zombie-like vigorous resort
  07/04/25
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Duck-like piazza idea he suggested
  07/04/25
we might actually get the long-prophesized RURAL HOSPITAL AP...
azure doobsian goal in life national
  07/03/25
Cr. Only good thing is the increase in ICE funding, which to...
dun regret hospital
  07/03/25
i don't understand how people are still invested in these li...
Nudist cocky deer antler knife
  07/03/25
Almost all that money will go to palantir to spy on and fuck...
adventurous garrison telephone
  07/03/25
i think you mean "XO palantir," unless you didn't ...
gold lay
  07/03/25
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Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/03/25
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dun regret hospital
  07/04/25
Also all of the data will go to jewish PI lawyers
Clear round eye
  07/03/25
kamala would have been a lot worse because we would have had...
gold lay
  07/03/25
Trump is an irl faggot
Copper Deep Preventive Strike
  07/03/25
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deranged electric furnace
  07/03/25
WTF? he gave billions to Israel, why are you so hostile?
aromatic gay wizard church building
  07/04/25
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deranged electric furnace
  07/04/25
WTF why are Trumpmos so MAF ITT, this is what you voted for ...
aromatic gay wizard church building
  07/04/25
Repeal the NFA, nationwide CCW.
zombie-like vigorous resort
  07/04/25
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Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set
  07/04/25
Why did "Hegemon" the valor thief do a marble-mout...
Transparent contagious hunting ground mother
  07/04/25


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Date: July 3rd, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: gold lay

Fuck these faggot waiters who were underreporting their tips anyways.

SALT tax cap increase is bullshit. The deduction should be zero.

Just give boomers even more handouts with an increased standard deduction that only applies to olds.

Basically, we are just adding even more stupid tax carveouts when we should be eliminating carveouts and lowering the overall rates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069780)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: aromatic gay wizard church building

they rewarded UMC libs in blue states and fucked over Trumpmos. 180!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069951)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:57 PM
Author: gold lay

the jews basically saw that the winds had shifted and switched sides. Funny how they always get exactly what they want regardless of which party controls government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070075)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 2:16 AM
Author: Beady-eyed potus

whoa brother. cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071231)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: Smoky rehab

who is Bill and when can we meet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069794)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 4:35 PM
Author: Clear round eye

Get rid of everything. Zero entitlements. Negative entitlements, even. No taxes except a jew tax, fat tax, being a woman tax. Pay vigilantes to hunt niggers and kikes. Directly from the Central Bank. In shares. Payment in Central Bank shares. Jack rates up too. 33.3% rates. 333.3% rates, even.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069812)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: twinkling french home skinny woman

I don't mind the tips tax. I know when the world was cash and not credit card they used to pay nothing. It's an understandable reaction.

Fuck salt and subsidizing shitlib tax states.

I trust Elon on bbb more than anything Trump says.

Did the child tax credit go up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069922)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: Clear round eye

Shut the fuck up you autistic gookcel loser

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069935)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: twinkling french home skinny woman

I haven't had sex since Friday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069943)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069989)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:31 PM
Author: aromatic gay wizard church building

he had the runz (undercooked dogmeat)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069994)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: Clear round eye

You’re short and a homo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070000)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:34 PM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set

Do you think that spergouts like this are why you've been cucked so many times?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070011)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Clear round eye

Is there a height requirement to kill people in the military or did you just prefer to spend a decade mopping up loads?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070034)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 7:18 PM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set

I'm serious, help me understand how it is you've been cucked so many times. Is it the spergouts? Do you look like shit? Are you in your 30s with nothing to show for it, with no immediate prospects? Help me understand, it's never happened to me so I wouldn't know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070280)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:41 AM
Author: aromatic gay wizard church building

all of the above + he's a potato + fat/short + gay tendencies + tufts degree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071171)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:31 PM
Author: Clear round eye

You’ve never had sex

And it shows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069996)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:28 PM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set

-- they dropped the remittance tax

-- they did nothing with cans and SBRs / NFA deregulation

-- they didn't kick illegals off entitlements

-- they cut entitlements in such a small amount that it literally won't do anything about the debt

In short, other than ICE funding, they didn't do fucking shit, and each GOP member should be hanged

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49069982)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:56 PM
Author: gold lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070068)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:58 PM
Author: vermilion razzle clown

Re point 3, I thought the bill put new eligibility requirements on SNAP and Medicaid federal funding which excludes illegals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070077)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: azure doobsian goal in life national

i thought that got dropped by the senate a couple days ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070078)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: vermilion razzle clown

I don't think so: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text

Ctrl-F for "Alien Medicaid Eligibility" and "Alien SNAP Eligibility"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070102)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set

Tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070276)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: dun regret hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070079)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 6:02 PM
Author: adventurous garrison telephone

You didn’t really think it would be any different than this, did you?

Btw most of the immigration enforcement funding will flow to palantir to fuck white Americans too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070092)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set

Having been on the inside and used Palantir products, they are hardly the boogeyman everyone online makes them out to be. You have much more to worry about with the actual GS employees at NSA (largely unfireable, ridiculous individual discretion, tools like Echelon / xkeyscore / prism / fvey info sharing) that make Palantir look like a kid with crayons) than Palantir, who largely just wants to be paid to make every piece of TS/SCI software the government uses for the next century. Alex Karp quotes notwithstanding, Palantir is really the least of your problems re: deep state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070274)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:14 AM
Author: ruby nowag ladyboy

tiNtcr

How is Lockheed building Echelon any different than Palantir getting this contract? Your argument is the vendor's other contracted products being low-scope and practical from the perspective of an infantryman? What would you have said about Lockheed getting the Echelon contract back in the 80s?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071063)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:22 AM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set

That Lockheed didn't pose any greater of a threat as a vendor than Palantir does now.

My point is that the vendor itself does not pose an enormous threat, and that fear-mongering about it is silly when if a threat exists, it exists in the bureaucrats who would like to wield whatever tools are built. If Palantir doesn't build them, it will be open AI, or some other silicon valley machine learning monkeys. The tools for technostatism will be built, the brand name in the readme matters fairly little. And if they will be built, I'm happy that they will be used for immigration enforcement.

I bring up the low scope because it's illustrative of the fact that they are building literally everything they can. They want to be indispensable to the government, by building every piece of software that handles classified information. They're doing this because they want to make billions of dollars. There's not some great malevolence at work here, they are driven by a profit motive to fill an extraordinarily lucrative niche.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071116)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:25 AM
Author: ruby nowag ladyboy

TBF the palantir CEO kike bragging about snuffing out the "far right" in EU is pretty disturbing and seemingly successful. I might prefer gay aids Sam Altman with OpenAI over the company named after a LotR scrying stone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071126)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set

Yeah, Karp bragging about that is concerning, but this sort of makes my point: technostatism is here, regardless of who is building it, and Palantir wants to build every piece of software that any intelligence agency ever uses. The interview where Karp says that is literally him trying to market his company. Altman would do the same shit, just look at how fagged his LLM is.

My point is that Palantir is a profit driven, ideologically agnostic programming company, and they are fairly good at what they do. Technostatism is certainly plenty concerning, but fear-mongering about Palantir specifically is sort of silly because they don't have any specific leftist drive, they'll build technosatan for anyone who pays them. And so would anyone else in silicon valley, for the amount of money that the government will pay. Worrying about one company specifically here is missing the issue that The government has infinite money that it will pay to be able to access every piece of information in the world, and they're probably going to be successful in doing this. If Palantir didn't exist, this would still happen. All of the solutions for this are analog, and probably none of them will ever happen. If technosatan is to exist, I would rather it be our guys driving it, and using it to deport illegals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071169)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: ruby nowag ladyboy

gpt has had iterations of extreme faggotry but I question whether this is something you can even speak on knowledgably without immediately needing to research. Gpt was just recently exposed for being BASED AS FUCK at the core level with only output level filtering essentially to prevent it from ranting about jews and niggers which was largely implemented under Leftist power incentives.

Also, take this tweet from Sam Altman today and compare it to the coal Karp was bleating about in his interview:

https://x.com/sama/status/1941151234775511328

EDIT: And the top comment is showing Altman pledging his love to Israel and the need to fight antisemitism. We really are just fucked until we do something about these kikes.

Somehow Palmer Lucky is getting defense contracts as well without ejaculating about disenfranchising pro-european Europeans.

I reject your premise and assert that it is in fact particularly dystopian for "Palantir" to be getting this contract.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071839)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:27 AM
Author: adventurous garrison telephone

this is dreadfully naive, brother. just like 9/11 was a CIA/mossad operation to usher in the security state, the "immigration enforcement" is a trojan horse to usher in a much more intense security state against american citizens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071145)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:48 AM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set

I don't know how you can call other people naive with a straight face.

-- for you, there is no such thing as a good outcome. Everything will always end up in the worst possible situation, and any contraindication is either a ruse or "naive" -- no matter how specious the foundation for your worst case scenario doomer blackpill alternative.

-- technosatan is already here, and it seems incredibly naive to think that this will be the Trojan horse when the government has been able to see virtually anything digital they want for years -- but now that intelligence tools are being used to deport illegals, THIS is the final straw to technotyranny? That somehow didn't happen under Obamiden? Lol sure

-- Your view of lib omnipotence is incredibly naive, given the incompetence we've seen over the past several years. I don't know how you lived through COVID and then didn't come away thinking that at least our enemies are morons.

-- you will blackpill about demographics until we do something about it (albeit very late), and then you'll blackpill about any action to fix the problem. What, exactly, do you think the solution is for any of the problems we face? Do you have any prescriptions? Because lying down and dying of unhappiness seems to be the only thing I have ever gotten from a Consuela politics poast. What am I missing here? What does winning look like to you? Because dumping a bunch of resources into deporting 100 million browns seems like a good fucking start. I'm not at all happy with the traitorous kike snakes in the GOP failing to deliver a bunch of stuff they say they all want, but blackpilling about immigration enforcement, of all things, is asinine.

-- The only thing your blackpill doomerism has ever accomplished is demoralization. If I were going to design a fed op poaster, he would sound nearly identical to you. I don't think you are one, I just think that your poasting accomplishes the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071174)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 1:00 AM
Author: adventurous garrison telephone

brother, I would first like to comment on your underlying psychic energy: you are filled with an intense and uncontrollably deep rage, and while you impose significant structure on yourself to keep the rage in check, it is not going to have an ultimately good outcome for you - just my feedback.

yes, what i call the digital panopticon is mostly in place now and will be solidified further in the next couple of years. nothing will stop it, imo, but neither do I have to accept the pro/con dialectic being imposed on every issue - including the immigration issue.

I would prefer tens of millions of illegals be deported. It isn't going to happen and selling false hopium does a disservice to yourself and anyone you interact with. the framework instead will help serve as political justification for the final touches of the panopticon. What you call the "blackpill" is simply base reality at this point.

lastly, in terms of what positive vision I offer: I think politics is downstream from culture which is downstream from metaphysics. A re-enchantment of the world and a transvaluation of values are needed before any fundamental political or culture change is possible. I am currently deep in this process myself through the Jungian individuation process, which is a very scary and alone process, but it is entirely changing my worldview toward one of re-enchantment -- not re-enchantment in a dead letter sense, but in a lived reality sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071191)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:29 AM
Author: zombie-like vigorous resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071153)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 2:12 AM
Author: Duck-like piazza idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071229)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: azure doobsian goal in life national

we might actually get the long-prophesized RURAL HOSPITAL APOCALYPSE out of this bill, which will be interesting if nothing else. the finances of a lot of those places cannot survive medicaid cuts without some other source of funding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070051)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: dun regret hospital

Cr. Only good thing is the increase in ICE funding, which to be fair is absolutely massive, but to also be fair I am deeply skeptical that it will actually go to enforcement rather than like a gay computer program that palantir will sell the govt to track illegals getting in accidents or something.

Otherwise its just a continuation of clinton bush obama biden decline of our country with massive obligations and giveaways to boomers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070088)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: Nudist cocky deer antler knife

i don't understand how people are still invested in these little political games. it's been over for a long time, we are firmly in "kick the can until it explodes" mode.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070106)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: adventurous garrison telephone

Almost all that money will go to palantir to spy on and fuck regular Americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070108)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 6:19 PM
Author: gold lay

i think you mean "XO palantir," unless you didn't buy at $7-$15 when we were all doing it in which case maybe you're more of a "TLS TSLA" kind of guy.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070115)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070278)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:01 AM
Author: dun regret hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071020)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Clear round eye

Also all of the data will go to jewish PI lawyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070109)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: gold lay

kamala would have been a lot worse because we would have had the same decline AND higher taxes and tranny bathrooms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070110)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 6:06 PM
Author: Copper Deep Preventive Strike

Trump is an irl faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070104)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: deranged electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49070121)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:26 AM
Author: aromatic gay wizard church building

WTF? he gave billions to Israel, why are you so hostile?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071128)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: deranged electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071898)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:28 AM
Author: aromatic gay wizard church building

WTF why are Trumpmos so MAF ITT, this is what you voted for right?

to give me a tax cut and to send money to Israel, why are you MAF all of a sudden?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071151)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:29 AM
Author: zombie-like vigorous resort

Repeal the NFA, nationwide CCW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071154)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:50 AM
Author: Underhanded Coral People Who Are Hurt Set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071175)



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Date: July 4th, 2025 2:26 AM
Author: Transparent contagious hunting ground mother

Why did "Hegemon" the valor thief do a marble-mouthed paid promotion for Palantir ITT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745804&forum_id=2#49071234)