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WSJ: Americans Are Still Spending Like There’s No Tomorrow

Consumers should be spending less by now. Interest rates...
Boyish deranged stead
  10/03/23
“Rather than funnel all their spare change into a hous...
Scarlet institution
  10/03/23
well if "Ibby Hussain" and a couple of weird lesbi...
Dull native
  10/03/23
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  10/03/23
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  10/04/23
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  10/03/23
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  10/03/23
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  10/03/23
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  10/03/23
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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:08 PM
Author: Boyish deranged stead

Consumers should be spending less by now.

Interest rates are up. Inflation remains high. Pandemic savings have shrunk. And the labor market is cooling.

Yet household spending, the primary driver of the nation’s economic growth, remains robust. Americans spent 5.8% more in August than a year earlier, well outstripping less than 4% inflation. And the experience economy boomed this summer, with Delta Air Lines reporting record revenue in the second quarter and Ticketmaster selling over 295 million event tickets in the first six months of 2023, up nearly 18% year-over-year.

Economists and financial advisers say consumers putting short-term needs and goals above long-term ones is normal. Still, this moment is different, they say.

A tough housing market has more consumers writing off something they’d historically save for, while the pandemic showed the instability of any long-term plans related to health, work or day-to-day life. So, they are spending on once-in-a-lifetime experiences because they worry they may not be able to do them later.

“It’s not a regret-filled, spur-of-the-moment decision,” says Michael Liersch, who oversees a team of advisers as head of advice at Wells Fargo. “It’s the opposite of that, where I would regret not having done it.”

Liersch cautions that it’s too soon to say whether the spate of spending is a fleeting moment or a new normal. And consumers remain frustrated about inflation as the price of many goods remains significantly higher than a few years ago.

Ibby Hussain, who works in marketing for a financial communications firm, says the Brooklyn, N.Y., apartment he and his fiancée rent for $3,000 a month would cost a million dollars to buy. At current rates, that means around $5,000 a month after a $200,000 down payment, not including property taxes. “And it’s not even that nice of an apartment.”

So, instead of saving for a down payment like he expected to after turning 30 and getting engaged in the past year, he splurged.

First, he bought a $1,600 Taylor Swift Eras Tour ticket and then he spent $3,500 on a bachelor party trip to Ibiza, Spain.

“I might as well just enjoy what I have now,” he says.

A travel boom

Ally Bank, whose online platform started allowing customers to create savings buckets for different goals in 2020, says users create about one-and-a-half times more experience-oriented buckets such as travel and “fun funds” versus those associated with longer-term planning.

Lindsey and Darrell Bradshaw went into credit-card debt to finance a vacation to Maui this past spring. The couple booked the trip only a few weeks after Lindsey, 37, quit her job to be a full-time caregiver to their 8-year-old son, who has special needs.

“We did not have the money and we were like, ‘Let’s just do this anyway,’ ” says Darrell Bradshaw, a 39-year-old general contractor in Seattle.

The trip cost about $10,000, including three, $1,000 last-minute plane tickets, 10 nights at a $385-a-night 4-star resort and several elaborate meals.

Even though the family decided to cancel subscriptions and cut back on dining out to help offset the bill, they say they have no regrets—especially since they got to see Lahaina just a few months before it was decimated by deadly wildfires.

Fears about a changing climate are driving some people to try to see places before they’re gone. In a monthly Deloitte survey of 19,000 global consumers, climate change was the only topic among 19 different concerns that respondents reported feeling significantly more worried about over the past year.

Josh Richner says he greatly lowered his retirement contribution to afford a cross-country trip that included a $7,000 Alaskan cruise so his family could see the ice caps, which have been melting at a rapid clip.

“I’ve never spent that much on a trip before,” says the 35-year-old, who says the splurge was also motivated by the pandemic and a health scare.

About six months ago, Richner and his wife decided to sell their Columbus, Ohio, home to travel the country with their two young children. Working for National Legal Center, a law firm that helps consumers resolve debt, he knows the potential consequences of living in a way that gives priority to the present. But he isn’t worried.

“I just hit a point where the thing that we had been talking about maybe hopefully doing some day, we’re going to do it now,” he says. “I’m not going to worry about money anymore. I don’t have it in me.”

Splurge purchases

Consumers might not be able to keep splurging forever. Labor strikes and student loan repayments could both lead people to pull back. Rising gas prices could also deter travel.

For those who study spending, however, the robustness up to this point has been a surprise.

In the New York Federal Reserve Bank’s August SCE Household Spending Survey, households reported spending 5.5% more than last year. The share of households that said they made at least one large purchase in the previous four months increased to 64% from 57%, its highest reading since August 2015.

“Normally at a time when you have higher inflation, but also higher interest rates, you don’t expect spending to hold up so well,” says Wilbert van der Klaauw, an economic research adviser on household and public policy at the Fed.

Rather than funnel all their spare change into a house or retirement account, Candice and Jasmine Kelly started a bucket-list fund after attending back-to-back funerals a few months ago. The couple adds a few hundred dollars from their paychecks each month into the fund, which they have used to try fancy restaurant tasting menus and buy Jasmine her dream designer handbag.

Instead of waiting to have fun when they retire, Candice, a 26-year-old management analyst in Charlotte, N.C., says the couple is trying to do the opposite. They want to enjoy their money while they’re young—even if it means working longer.

“All the rules that exist around money and lifestyle are just things people made up, so we’re playing a different game, and honestly I think we’re having more fun,” says Candice.

https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/americans-are-still-spending-like-theres-no-tomorrow-6a1d307?mod=hp_lead_pos4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878024)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:20 PM
Author: Scarlet institution

“Rather than funnel all their spare change into a house or retirement account, Candice and Jasmine Kelly started a bucket-list fund…to try fancy restaurant tasting menus and buy Jasmine her dream designer handbag…‘All the rules that exist around money and lifestyle are just things people made up, so we’re playing a different game, and honestly I think we’re having more fun,’ says Candice.”

this is why they will tax your fraud01k withdrawals at 85%, btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878071)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:33 PM
Author: Dull native

well if "Ibby Hussain" and a couple of weird lesbians say so...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878127)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:42 PM
Author: Garnet public bath

don't forget Josh Richner of National Legal Center, a law firm that helps consumers resolve debt, who desperately wants to see the ice caps before they melt away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878167)



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Date: October 4th, 2023 11:55 AM
Author: pearl theater

Ibby "Ricky" Hussain

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMn1xp4Hvq7/?hl=en

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46883186)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:34 PM
Author: Swollen Learning Disabled Preventive Strike Nursing Home

because they no longer believe there will be a tomorrow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878133)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:43 PM
Author: judgmental talking stage



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:54 PM
Author: adventurous grizzly trust fund affirmative action

ran here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878247)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:54 PM
Author: fishy startled round eye

tp

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Date: October 3rd, 2023 1:08 PM
Author: concupiscible ratface



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 1:21 PM
Author: cordovan hairless organic girlfriend international law enforcement agency



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 1:23 PM
Author: Ruby Hilarious Theatre



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 1:26 PM
Author: charcoal spectacular site

Simple as

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Date: October 3rd, 2023 1:26 PM
Author: Multi-colored orchestra pit boiling water



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Date: October 4th, 2023 11:18 AM
Author: Coiffed magical azn mediation



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:39 PM
Author: Garnet public bath

"Americans spent 5.8% more in August than a year earlier, well outstripping less than 4% inflation."

probably because 4% inflation is complete bullshit and it's more like 20%-30%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878151)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 11:03 PM
Author: chestnut swashbuckling rigpig

CR

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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:39 PM
Author: pearly sadistic parlour

Existing in Bidens America is hella expensive.

But this is another sad side effect of Instagram/social media. People will to go broke to have the experiences they see others having.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878154)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:51 PM
Author: Multi-colored orchestra pit boiling water

What is most remarkable is that after you have a couple experiences you realize that experiences are just as empty as having things and then you’re like well what is the point. Even the emerald green grass of Ireland can’t turn you around at that point on the slide into anhedonia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878224)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 11:19 PM
Author: Thriller set

When will the mass suicides begin? When the millennials start hitting their 40s?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46881582)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:40 PM
Author: Wine dashing mood antidepressant drug

Where we are going we aren't going to need retirement funds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878157)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 12:41 PM
Author: arousing useless brakes

goy garbage

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Date: October 3rd, 2023 1:03 PM
Author: iridescent aromatic fortuitous meteor

He will own nothing and be happy.

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So, instead of saving for a down payment like he expected to after turning 30 and getting engaged in the past year, he splurged. First, he bought a $1,600 Taylor Swift Eras Tour ticket and then he spent $3,500 on a bachelor party trip to Ibiza, Spain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878299)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 1:07 PM
Author: fragrant turquoise hall dragon

luxury items, if u can find them, are selling out like its going out of style

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/03/manhattan-luxury-apartments-are-in-short-supply-driving-up-prices.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46878318)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 3:17 PM
Author: well-lubricated puce partner death wish

I just converted a mutual fund into an ETF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46879050)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 3:20 PM
Author: orange haunting spot

180, obsessing over money and scrimping and saving is kikey behavior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46879073)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 11:07 PM
Author: histrionic whorehouse

lollercausting HARD ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46881519)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 11:11 PM
Author: chestnut swashbuckling rigpig

This confirms a theory I have had for the past 10 years about America. In the year 2000, the percentage of high school girls nationwide who would have known what Prada, Chanel, Miu Miu, Hermes, Chloe, Balenciaga, etc. are would have been 0.0001%. Nowadays, 19 year olds from bumblefuck know that a Lear Jet isn’t shit compared to a G650–despite having never flown private. These sluts are exposed to constant consumer porn starring their friends, frenemies, and idols where high value women are showing this shit off all day—notwithstanding that 90% of influencers are just borrowing or will immediately return the clothes and accessories they pose with. Their brains are fucking broken and they have a totally warped perception about what are reasonable purchases for people earning non-elite amount of income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46881533)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 11:12 PM
Author: histrionic whorehouse

lol DAT birkin FLEX

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Date: October 3rd, 2023 11:14 PM
Author: chestnut swashbuckling rigpig

I’ll add - I’m constantly amazed when I go to legit expensive outings what percentage of the people there have absolutely no business paying the cost of attendance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46881552)



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Date: October 4th, 2023 12:03 AM
Author: Cheese-eating station deer antler

describe these outings friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46881738)



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Date: October 4th, 2023 11:35 AM
Author: chestnut swashbuckling rigpig

The Super Bowl

Premium seats at sporting events (legends at Yankee Stadium, 50 yard line club at Met Life); late round NFL playoff games; boxes at concerts

US Open (golf) and Northern Trust. (Tennis US Open seems to be legit richmos)

Private shopping/watch store events (these are free but the people don’t look like or have jobs that would seem to support the purchases)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46883071)



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 11:51 PM
Author: Red high-end casino community account



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Date: October 3rd, 2023 11:55 PM
Author: Milky Hairraiser Legal Warrant People Who Are Hurt

bump brothers

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Date: October 3rd, 2023 11:52 PM
Author: Milky Hairraiser Legal Warrant People Who Are Hurt



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Date: October 4th, 2023 12:00 AM
Author: Cheese-eating station deer antler

up in LOOFTHANSA bidness class with KOR askin' the Japanese stewardess for another gin n' tonic and haagen-dazzz followed right quick by a vodka and yes some more udon noodles.

u already know. frankfurt then berlin. ynyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

rumor is Paulie P. dropped $10k in a FKK and pissed himself. I think he's @ Sisyphos now. touching down in 4 hours. said he took a red nintendo pill. let it do what it do baby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5418289&forum_id=2#46881729)