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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Galvanic Bossy Sanctuary
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Beady-eyed school toaster
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Galvanic Bossy Sanctuary

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Beady-eyed school toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49156580)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Chartreuse Chapel Newt

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: curious doobsian orchestra pit

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Chartreuse Chapel Newt

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: curious doobsian orchestra pit

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Chartreuse Chapel Newt

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Chestnut racy karate

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: provocative crimson business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Sable cracking crotch legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Citrine preventive strike doctorate

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: drab nursing home

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: twisted ticket booth

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Chestnut racy karate

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: boyish abusive death wish church building

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Misunderstood scarlet fat ankles trust fund

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Thriller codepig

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105022)