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Date: February 6th, 2012 1:37 AM Author: offensive pit international law enforcement agency i have an interview coming up and want to know how to recognize shitlaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19907965) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 1:43 AM Author: nubile church building *is advertised on TV/billboards/buses/bus benches*
*office exudes a fecal smell that is especially prevalent in partner offices*
*attys wear any of the following: brown suits, cologne, poorly tailored clothes, braided belts*
*building is on same block as Jos A. Bank, where attys get discounts*
*attys have weak handshakes, talk softly and can't hold eye contact effectively*
*Receptionist named Phyllis, Darlene or Cheri*
*Firm's shining accomplishment is partner appearance on Nancy Grace*
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Date: February 6th, 2012 9:14 AM Author: Exciting casino U JUST DESCRIBED YOUR OFFICE, DIDN'T U? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908638) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 12:23 PM Author: nubile church building *Looks at clean wrists*
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Date: February 6th, 2012 1:41 AM Author: Laughsome useless community account messiness everything looks unkempt, boss will have crumbs on his face, shirt, wrinkled suit etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19907978) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 1:46 AM Author: offensive pit international law enforcement agency lol no seriously. i just want to know if it's the type of place that will make me killself and how i can tell. their website didn't really convince me one way or the other (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19907998) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 1:47 AM Author: Curious mauve lodge milk 90% of firms outside NLJ250 are shitlaw. More specifically, if a firm pays you anything less than 60k a year, it's legit Shitlaw.
In addition, if that firm does shit like personal injury, insurance defense, or divorce settlement, it is a complete shitlaw. |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 1:50 AM Author: offensive pit international law enforcement agency ty. i probably won't even get an offer, so it won't even end up mattering
that said, as someone just starting out, is it better to be unemployed or to do shitlaw or something shitlawesque? |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 1:52 AM Author: Curious mauve lodge milk in that case, better to ditch law entirely and get a job outside law.
being unemployed sucks, but so does working in shitlaw. I worked in shitlaw and it was worse than working as a waiter.
if I were you, i would try really hard to get a non-law corporate job. |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 1:54 AM Author: offensive pit international law enforcement agency i'm not going to do that. i want to be a lawyer and will do whatever to do it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908041) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 1:57 AM Author: Curious mauve lodge milk good luck, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908063) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:02 AM Author: offensive pit international law enforcement agency ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908093) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 7:30 AM Author: Mischievous cerise persian Not all pi is shitlaw...i am at what id say is a second tier pi firm in that we're not elite or prestigious but still pop corps in the millions on our better cases and often go against nlj 250 firms. Work is reasonably sophisticated. I spent 1l in actual shitlaw pi and there is a huge difference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908547) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:03 AM Author: Coral shrine windowlicker no such thing
all legal jerbs are highly preftigious |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:04 AM Author: offensive pit international law enforcement agency lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908101) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:05 AM Author: Curious mauve lodge milk the notion and mentality from some of 0L's are frighteningly fucked up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908116) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:04 AM Author: offensive pit international law enforcement agency how big is the typical shitlaw firm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908107) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:05 AM Author: Sickened Cruise Ship http://www.shitlawjobs.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908111) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:10 AM Author: Floppy Navy Depressive shitlaw at a Plaintiffs Attorney
*all contingency for the most part with developed workers comp practice is the norm.
*many of your clients will likely not speak english.
*many winnable cases are lost because 1) jury doesn't like plaintiff or 2) plaintiff doesn't follow through with treatment
*many of your calls is dealing with IRATE clients who wonder why it takes so long to get money.
*get used to facilitating LAWCASH loans which are terrible.
*much of the work is boilerplate.
*salary sucks, but if the place has a developed clientele with good "marketing" (not adverts...think more "hand to hand" marketing)...you can hit and do well.
*exciting in the sense that you in workers comp court a lot but not at superior court too much as if you are, then you are doing it wrong.
it's a crap shoot. in truth, it's what most people THINK OF as law. you are a legit lawyer fighting cases. But a lot of it is amending roggs, herding clients to doctors, getting your chiros/PT/radiologists all in a row, amending discovery, compelling documents, et alia. If the PA has a developed situation (think HUNDREDS of open cases), then you can make some money. The learning curve isn't too bad. I got an offer at the place I am clerking at, but turned it down for something tax related. I don't regret shitlaw chasing during LS at all and actually would recommend to those with "people skills". If you legit are the kind of guy someone like "immediately", then you will be able to soothe clients into compliance and the defense bar really hates their own clients so it's not that bad.
just my own opinion. |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:13 AM Author: offensive pit international law enforcement agency ty. what would you say for the defense side?
i know a guy that worked at a small firm for 1-2 years - he made it sound like shitlaw, maybe it wasn't...but after that, he got a position at a big national firm. he said part of the advantage of working at a small firm was that he had so much responsibility and learned a lot and that is how he sold it when he interviewed for better positions |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:18 AM Author: Floppy Navy Depressive I cannot speak from experience, however I do know somethings.
It's REALLY boilerplate. Some of the bigger insurance companies have their own version of "advocate school" which is a week of doing a trial advocacy boot camp replete with common openings and closings.
They have checklists. Like form roggs they send where sometimes they don't even change the captions correctly. They take A LOT of depos. A LOT. They're pretty brutal and everyone hates being at them. EVERYONE.
D bar seems decently friendly, if not VERY overworked. They seem to do pretty big hours. Not Biglaw hours, but 8-6 was the impression I got. Sounds like plaintiffs work without the loony (and at times FUN) clients since their clients are in-house counsel managing their cases.
again, this is heresay from my boss with 25 years doing plaintiffs work. |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:20 AM Author: offensive pit international law enforcement agency ty. do these types of places typically ask someone what they expect to get paid? what sort of traits are they looking for -- what should i emphasize during my interview? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908205) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:29 AM Author: Floppy Navy Depressive I won't lie...my resume on paper looked top notch and my boss was stunned I didn't have a job after Ivy UG and good LS grades. He looked at the bottom and said: "you speak fluent spanish?" I said "yup". And he left me in the conference room, 3 minutes later 2 really hot latina chicks walk in, sit down and start talking to me in spanish. we talk a little about this and that as he watches. kinda surreal. they stop and one goes "he's legit". He excuses them and says "can you start on tuesday"
basically, my spanish skills were the plus and he relied on that. Defense side I am POSITIVE is way more professional.
My guess would be to say that you are interested in litigation from "soup to nuts" because that is what you will do. many insurance companies (ultimately your boss) bank on you drawing out litigation to starve the plaintiffs. say LITIGATION LITIGATION LITIGATION. |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:30 AM Author: Floppy Navy Depressive fyi: the whole secretarial pool is latina and hot. And, yes, it's distracting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908251) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 3:28 AM Author: chartreuse athletic conference house do yall have, like, real hr policies, and if not can't you fuck them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908359) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 2:36 AM Author: offensive pit international law enforcement agency ty man. one more thing - is shitlaw always small? this place isn't small (not saying it's big by any means) but i was wondering how this would affect associates' work/quality of life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908268) |
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Date: February 6th, 2012 9:01 AM Author: silver galvanic roast beef dilemma this is 100% credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1866862&forum_id=2#19908620) |