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Is there affirmative action in medical schools?
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:31 AM Author: Duck-like wonderful ticket booth keepsake machete Met a black dude the other day from a top med school. Just got me wondering about this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953292) |
Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:32 AM Author: Greedy plum set mad-dog skullcap LOL TYFT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953296) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:40 AM Author: Duck-like wonderful ticket booth keepsake machete Not kidding. I assume there is AA, but is it as big as it is in law schools? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953440) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:41 AM Author: Henna charismatic personal credit line den Who cares if there is or isn't? At the end of the day, everyone in med school has to pass the boards to become certified. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953458) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:43 AM Author: motley quadroon but the AA guy took mr. pumo flame's spot at HMS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953480) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:58 AM Author: Duck-like wonderful ticket booth keepsake machete lol no. i'm not even against AA necessarily. i just know nothing about med school admissions. i do however know about law school admissions and i know that it is a significant boost there. so i was wondering if med school was like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953662) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:03 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953723) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:18 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night your flame is unraveling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953875) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:22 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953925) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:24 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night You claimed she scored a 42. so at the absolute worse she would have scored a 12 VR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953938) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:25 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953963) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:30 AM Author: Mint Plaza Weed Whacker LOL WTF? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954005) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:35 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954052) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:40 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night what the fuck are you talking about-- a 12/15 on the Verbal is around the 99th percentile.
Your flame fucking sucks. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:46 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954158) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:47 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night Dood in every single med school thread you mention your retarded wife and her 40+ MCAT. It doesn't take a genius to spot your flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954172) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:52 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954210) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:53 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night LMAO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954228) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:55 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954242) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:39 AM Author: aquamarine forum faggot firefighter people really have discussions like this irl?
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:41 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954110) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:47 AM Author: aquamarine forum faggot firefighter like, they discuss what they'd be doing if they were black? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954164) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:53 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954225) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 11:24 AM Author: vivacious degenerate Of course.
Monday is "what would I be doing if I were black" day
Tueseday is "what would I be doing if I were Latino/a" day
Wednesday is "what would I be doing if I were homo" day
Thursday is "what would I be doing if I were Jewish" day
Friday is "what would I be doing if I were Muslim" day.
The weekends, of course, are "just enjoy being majority" days. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:38 PM Author: Magical Bossy Legal Warrant an old friend of mine from HS went to harvard medical school. she is black.. i can tell you she is no great shakes intellectually. not even close to being a genius or really very bright. extremely driven and extremely hardworking, yes, but not even one of the 10 or so smartest people at my HS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15956322) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:43 PM Author: Mint Plaza Weed Whacker doctors are generally "no great shakes intellectually" you racist FAGGOT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15956370) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:42 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night no it just happened to suddenly becum 55% female (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953465) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:59 AM Author: Duck-like wonderful ticket booth keepsake machete good point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953675) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:45 AM Author: drunken fat ankles Ever heard of Bakke? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953503) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:04 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953734) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:06 AM Author: Amethyst water buffalo wagecucks Regents of the University of California v. Bukakke? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953756) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:01 AM Author: Amethyst water buffalo wagecucks It's at least as significant as law school AA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953701) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:08 AM Author: Sadistic kitty athletic conference It's worse. Much worse. AA admits to top calibre research programs wouldn't be locks for most bottom tier schools if they were white.
Law school applicants (including black applicants) take a bunch of touchy-feely easy liberal arts classes in college, so there are quite a few AA candidates with high GPAs.
Med school applicants take large, somewhat difficult, curved, and blindly graded courses (and courses in which professors fail people -- no gentleman's B+). Whatever you want to blame the gap on, you can probably guess how that works out.
So they have to dig deeper and use far more blunt AA policies to get the desired quotas of each race.
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:12 AM Author: Vibrant dragon i've heard this. but what do you think about the argument that, even though there is aa, every doctor has to pass the usmle's (or whatever they're called--not pre-med here, just interested in this subject) and therefore the ends justify the means? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953811) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:13 AM Author: Sadistic kitty athletic conference The USMLE is a minimum competency exam. It's like the bar.
It doesn't weed out anyone but tards. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:15 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953845) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:17 AM Author: Sadistic kitty athletic conference True
But medical students are on average smarter than law students. It's still a minimum comp exam with a high pass rate. First time MD takers pass at all steps at a 97% rate. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:32 AM Author: racy pearly psychic Doesn't the score determine your residence match?
It seems much more like the LSAT than the bar. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:41 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night no it helps but interviews are what will determine where you end up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954118) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 2:02 AM Author: Arousing Pocket Flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954286) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 11:20 AM Author: Cheese-eating electric furnace Residency programs practice affirmative action just like BIGLAW firms do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15955583) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:15 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night if it justified it then all doctors would be created equally which is not the case and which is why healthcare is so fucking scary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953843) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:14 AM Author: Mint Plaza Weed Whacker And just how many "blacks" are there at integrated med schools buddy? Answer: <2% but keep bitching about how a black guy stole you're spot at HMS. LOL RACIST FAGGOT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953830) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:15 AM Author: Sadistic kitty athletic conference It just goes to show how big the gap is in undergraduate and mcat performance. They do get huge AA bumps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953844) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:16 AM Author: Amethyst water buffalo wagecucks Stop being so insecure and sensitive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15953856) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:57 AM Author: Slimy wine resort cuck To "lose" your spot via AA to a minority wouldn't you have had to be bottom 2% or so anyway?
Wouldn't you be better off doing something you aren't in the bottom 2% qualified to do? |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:59 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night no because as long as you get into med school you are pretty much set for life. med schools do everything in their power to pass students and have them graduate and make big $$$$$$. thats the whole point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954264) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 2:00 AM Author: Slimy wine resort cuck I don't know. I think anyone who can't qualify for medical school because of AA must have been a very marginal candidate anyway. Wouldn't the result be that you end up being admitted to a school a bit lower on the totem pole? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954274) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 2:02 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night there is no such thing as a school on the lower end. for all intensive purposes they are all the same.
i know people who got in with low mcats and did extremely well on the usmle/boards. thats the whole point. the mcat is the hardest part for most and the main barrier. actual med school is just memorization. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 2:03 AM Author: Slimy wine resort cuck Don't the people who can't qualify for US schools end up doing medicine on some tropical island? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954296) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 2:04 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sienna queen of the night yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954311) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 10:18 AM Author: motley quadroon "for all intensive purposes" is this now a xo meme? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15955320) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:12 PM Author: Duck-like wonderful ticket booth keepsake machete That or he's a retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15956177) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 10:31 AM Author: hairraiser giraffe marketing idea i don't think anyone actually says "oh my fucking god, if it wasn't for that diabolical darrontavius jefferson i'd have been a LOCK at harvard!" especially since anyone who near-misses from harvard will still have plenty of great options
otoh it's kind of creepy to think that low 20's mcat is typical of black admits - that isn't likely to make anyone want a black doctor, all other things being equal |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 1:14 PM Author: Duck-like wonderful ticket booth keepsake machete CR, but if you were going to ask how you would have done without AA it's not just the 2% at the school you just missed that matters, it's also the 2% at every school higher than that which could add up.
But on the other hand maybe those schools wouldn't even be taking as many students without AA. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 2:03 AM Author: Histrionic Bipolar Mexican Even if there is it doesn't matter. Everyone wants a Jewish doctor and those are the guys who get paid by wealthy people. This isn't flame, racist, or based upon any other motivation, it's the honest-to-God absolute truth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954299) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 2:05 AM Author: Slimy wine resort cuck I have teh Jewish gyno. He is good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954314) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 2:06 AM Author: Histrionic Bipolar Mexican yep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15954329) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 10:36 AM Author: Lilac stimulating shrine Let me guess, you are Jewish? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15955413) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 2:04 AM Author: Bespoke business firm french chef NOT FOR DR. OF VOOOOOOOOOOOOODOOOOOOOO
Hey, I've never seen a nigger vet - have you? |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 10:10 AM Author: Infuriating Honey-headed Goal In Life Garrison not so much race based aa. i mean there are not many "urm" at most schools. but many schools have faggots on the admissions committee. they can set requirements like "community service", working with "diverse" populations,etc. it's all to justify giving a spot to someone with 10mcat points lower than me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413163&forum_id=2#15955292) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 10:32 AM Author: Laughsome therapy trust fund Isn't this the sort of thing that just like, varies from school to school? like, something schools decide on their own?
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 10:33 AM Author: Orange locale *is introduced to surgeon*
*notices he is black*
*covertly asks for different surgeon* |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 11:40 AM Author: Mint Plaza Weed Whacker *doesn't want black surgeon to laugh at his TINY FUCKING DICK*
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