Anyone else know guys who turned super beta/lib after marriage and kids?
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Date: May 9th, 2024 7:10 PM Author: sable resort karate
Been catching up with an old friend the past few days who married a shrew older than him (he's late 30s she's 40) and they had their first kid a couple years ago
He was never a "super based" "right wing bro" or anything - he's a quintessential cowgod Engineer guy. But he was always reasonably masculine, logical, practical, libertarian-leaning, typical white guy with 130+ IQ (he's pretty smart, and very successful in his professional field)
He has morphed into more or less a typical normie lib NPC. Really worked up on lib media faux-issues, upset about Trump (???), and most noteworthy has become totally "beta" in his worldview. Incredibly focused on "safety" in all contexts. Weirdly aggressively dismissive of any unorthodox opinions and views in the same sort of inappropriately self-righteous way that urbanite libs are, even on topics he doesn't know anything about
I've run into the same phenomenon with several guys I've known in my life: after they've gotten married and had kids, they've warped into a normie lib NPC beta. Some worse than others. But it's a complete psychological, almost spiritual shift in orientation, not some kind of limited "political views" thing
I'm familiar with The Science on men's T levels collapsing post-kids, but I feel like this can't possibly be a comprehensive explanation. It really feels like their whole psychological and spiritual mindset shifts to an orientation where they are unconsciously trying to be as normie and "safe" as possible to socially fit in and thus protect their wife and kids. Like some kind of animal that sheds its previous existence as an individual male actor in the world in favor of becoming a eusocial insect under the protection of the hive
I dunno. It's really weird and striking. And I've pretty much lost all respect for him. He's just not an interesting or "real" person anymore, and people who are not interesting and have no character of their own are not people
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526951&forum_id=2#47649251) |
Date: May 9th, 2024 8:22 PM Author: ultramarine yarmulke
I've noticed this too. Frankly it's hard to be an independent thinker in 2024. Women control the dating market and men are subconsciously subservient if they find one willing to marry and have kids with them; work is a politically correct minefield and you always have to Say The Right Things Or Else; the Algorithms feed you exactly what they want you to see and vigorously remove content they deem Dangerous; and Successful Men are most often those who are rewarded for playing by these rules, not the ones that buck them. So there is a financial incentive to stay in line.
With this backdrop and the stresses of life as you reach 40 men just go into auto pilot at some point.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526951&forum_id=2#47649397) |
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Date: May 10th, 2024 2:14 AM Author: submissive honey-headed roast beef
I will arm wrestle you any day
I bet you have no grip strength and weak arms
Weak ass turdshit bitch
Fight me
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526951&forum_id=2#47649916) |
Date: May 10th, 2024 9:31 AM Author: Cocky Titillating Area Bbw
honestly never seen this at all, of my friend group the unmarrieds are the milady reddit lib types - although I think there's a chicken/egg thing here.
also remember that what you're describing in OP is a totally subjective judgment which certain people are primed to believe is true and certain people are primed to believe is false so ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526951&forum_id=2#47650175) |
Date: May 10th, 2024 12:19 PM Author: lavender thirsty trust fund background story
Yes good friend from HS was right wing and pretty based through college. Very high IQ engineer/math guy. He moved to lib city and met lib gf, now wife, and turned into an utter lib beta. He defers to his wife on everything and went vegan because she wanted to. She's the type who will lecture you on how bad meat is for the environment one minute and talk about her upcoming trip to Bali the next (20hr+ flight that probably offsets an entire lifetime of eating vegan). Even when we're alone together now he'll bring up lib talking points like colonialism and white privilege. It's brutal.
He's not the only one but def the worst
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526951&forum_id=2#47650574) |
Date: May 10th, 2024 12:36 PM Author: Pearly national
yes, my older brother.
he's like not even sentient anymore -- literally no autonomy, agency or free will/volition
my sister-in-law turned him into a spineless cuck king that just bobbles his head like a cucked out bobblehead during seasonal family outings or thanksgiving (or rather, when my sister-in-law allows him because her "social life" is basically a black hole)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526951&forum_id=2#47650640) |
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