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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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wonderful queen of the night
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
useless resort chad
  12/16/25
18000
wonderful queen of the night
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
alcoholic abode wagecucks
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
useless resort chad
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
alcoholic abode wagecucks
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
useless resort chad
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
alcoholic abode wagecucks
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
wonderful queen of the night
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
useless resort chad
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
alcoholic abode wagecucks
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
useless resort chad
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
alcoholic abode wagecucks
  12/17/25
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wonderful queen of the night
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useless resort chad
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Azure Vibrant Crackhouse Ratface
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
useless resort chad
  12/16/25
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Azure Vibrant Crackhouse Ratface
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Aphrodisiac slap-happy location yarmulke
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
useless resort chad
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Lime Associate Mad Cow Disease
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
useless resort chad
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
mewling party of the first part toaster
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useless resort chad
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wonderful queen of the night
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Concupiscible Abnormal Juggernaut Rigor
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Wine ticket booth liquid oxygen
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useless resort chad
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Concupiscible Abnormal Juggernaut Rigor
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wonderful queen of the night
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wonderful queen of the night
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
alcoholic abode wagecucks
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
cobalt ungodly goal in life cruise ship
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: wonderful queen of the night



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: useless resort chad

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: wonderful queen of the night

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: alcoholic abode wagecucks

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: useless resort chad

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: alcoholic abode wagecucks

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: useless resort chad

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: alcoholic abode wagecucks

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: wonderful queen of the night

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: useless resort chad

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: alcoholic abode wagecucks

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: useless resort chad

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: alcoholic abode wagecucks

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: wonderful queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: useless resort chad



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Azure Vibrant Crackhouse Ratface

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: useless resort chad

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Azure Vibrant Crackhouse Ratface



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac slap-happy location yarmulke

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: useless resort chad

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Lime Associate Mad Cow Disease

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: useless resort chad

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: mewling party of the first part toaster

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: useless resort chad



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: wonderful queen of the night



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Concupiscible Abnormal Juggernaut Rigor

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Wine ticket booth liquid oxygen

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: useless resort chad



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Concupiscible Abnormal Juggernaut Rigor



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: wonderful queen of the night



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: wonderful queen of the night



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: alcoholic abode wagecucks

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: cobalt ungodly goal in life cruise ship

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515738)