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Anthony Ciolli (mail) (www):

"What we’re doing here no other university has done," said Kramer

I really found that statement disingenuous, given that all these so-called revolutionary developments have been in place at other law schools for several years now. See here for more details.

Don't get me wrong -- I think the courses and clinics mentioned in the press release sound great. However the easily refuted puffery about Stanford being the only university to do these things is extremely silly and detracts from the announcement, making it look as if Stanford is just trying to steal Harvard's thunder.

12.1.2006 12:57am

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spider:

Actually, when HLS students take cross-registered courses in other parts of Harvard, the grade doesn't count for your HLS GPA (although you get credits towards your HLS degree). So to the extent that you care about your HLS GPA for honors purposes or whatever, it's not an "easy A", it's actually a "free lunch".

As a separate issue, there are plenty of Harvard courses that are not easy As (I've taken some grad-level courses in the economics department, and learned the most yet got my lowest grades in those).

[OK Comments: Spider, you're absolutely right. My recollection was close, but slightly off. I have made the correction in the post, replacing "easy A" with "free pass."]

12.1.2006 12:59am

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Erick:

Or we could just eliminate the useless 3rd year, saving students tens of thousands of dollars.

12.1.2006 1:05am

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JDNYU:

@Anthony,

If "Grand Teacher Oziblablah" (GTO) made this post on autoadmit.com, he would be accused of being a "Penn Troll", and rightly so. No kidding, Ciolli, the principle of joint degrees is not novel? The question is, how will Stanford execute its plan. Other schools are a lot more likely to follow Stanford's lead than Penn's.

HTFH

12.1.2006 2:37am

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Nobody Special:

Too bad that most of Stanford's graduate programs are pretty crappy relative to the reputation of the law school. (Sciences and other professional degrees excepted)

12.1.2006 3:49am

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anonVCfan:

a three-dimensional degree program that combines the study of other disciplines with team-oriented, problem-solving techniques and expanded clinical training that enables students to represent clients and litigate cases—before they graduate

I take this to mean that they're turning SLS into a consulting firm, complete with dynamic, value-added, goal-driven synergy. I hope they have a class in "thinking outside the box," because my major disappointment in law school was that mine didn't offer that.

As for Larry Kramer's statement that he's some sort of revolutionary, this is just what Brian Leiter might call "Sextonism."

12.1.2006 7:27am

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PersonFromPorlock:

...team-oriented, problem-solving techniques...

Hoo boy. Run. Run screaming!

12.1.2006 7:53am

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