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Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:55 PM Author: Scarlet sanctuary turdskin # of 2L participants (including transfers): ~400 # of 2L's who got at least 1 offer: ~270 (67.5%) V10 Placement: 77 (19.25%)
For comparison, 2006 stats: # of 2L participants (including transfers): ~400 # of 2L's who got at least 1 offer: ~390 (97.5%) V10 Placement: 134 (33.5%)
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Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:58 PM Author: excitant sienna background story link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795843) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:59 PM Author: Scarlet sanctuary turdskin TLS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795865) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 3:23 AM Author: pearly church faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797425) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:02 AM Author: henna heady chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795913) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:03 AM Author: mauve exhilarant scourge upon the earth stage just posting what i saw on tls. i cannot vouch for the accuracy of the data, but it seems like it's reliable so whatevs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795939) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:04 AM Author: henna heady chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795947) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:35 AM Author: costumed macaca
Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:03 AM Author: OperaSoprano
just posting what i saw on tls. i cannot vouch for the accuracy of the data, but it seems like it's reliable so whatevs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795939)
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:17 AM Author: Gold exciting property quadroon This is right. Ill add that V25 made 331 offers of which 135 were accepted, so about half the offers accepted but lots of offers concentrated within the top 1/3. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796125) |
Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:59 PM Author: magical spot toaster That's still pretty respectable. I wonder how much worse NYU's placement was. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795870) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:08 AM Author: Claret vivacious immigrant they jiggered their grades last year. i bet it was better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796002) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 10:44 AM Author: Dashing indian lodge genital piercing Actually we just had the EIW thing yesterday too. 70% of the class received at least one offer through EIW, so we did slightly better overall than Columbia with a larger class. However, they didn't break down firm ranges for us. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798264) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:06 AM Author: Dull razzle-dazzle place of business These numbers seem awfully high. I thought the consensus on here was that the % of students with offers at both schools was around 50-60% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798447) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:10 AM Author: Dashing indian lodge genital piercing I thought it was pretty high too, but that's what Career Services gave us. It would mean more if they broke it down a bit like CLS did as to what percentage went to which type of firm, etc.
They expect this year to be better than last year. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:01 PM Author: Dull razzle-dazzle place of business Does it seem like these numbers are consistent with what you've heard from the 2Ls? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800245) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:05 PM Author: Dashing indian lodge genital piercing I don't know a ton of 2Ls. The ones I do know are at V20 firms this summer, so it's not representative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800288) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:23 AM Author: Gold exciting property quadroon They didn't tell us exactly how many students got at least one offer- just how many accepted. A few firms didn't provide data either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798574) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:02 PM Author: Dashing indian lodge genital piercing for NYU? or for Columbia? because for NYU I'm looking at it and it says "70% of the 2L class reported receiving at least 1 offer for summer employment from an employer with whom they interviewed at EIW."
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 4:18 PM Author: Gold exciting property quadroon CLS. Just has a table with "Total Offers Given" and "Total Accepted," for each firm. They didn't even bother to add them up on the Excel spreadsheet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14801500) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:27 PM Author: magical spot toaster Impressive. Did they mention anything about how grade cutoffs changed as a result of the new curve and crappy economy? They used to use 3.5 and 3.3 as general cutoffs for higher and mid tier firms, respectively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799860) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:04 PM Author: Dashing indian lodge genital piercing yea they said 3.3-3.49 is still the vast majority of firms, and that for 3.5 and above there are historically 10 firms but that like 16 or 17 other firms (that number may be off by a bit) kicked their hiring up into 3.5 or above, but that over half of those that did ended up getting no accepts by NYU students that they offered to.
So consensus seems to be that probably like 15-18 firms I guess will continue to look for 3.5 and above, but otherwise many of those firms will kick back down to 3.3-3.49 if they want to get any NYU students. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:16 PM Author: magical spot toaster 16 or 17 additional firms? Jesus.
Was Latham NY among these 3.5 firms? |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:58 PM Author: Dashing indian lodge genital piercing I don't remember. I don't think so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800740) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:00 AM Author: Scarlet sanctuary turdskin whatever it is, puts a lot of ITE bloodbath speculation to rest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795891) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 10:17 AM Author: high-end racy stag film Tell that to the 100+ CLS students that failed to land a job in 2009 who would have been successful in 2006. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806879) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:08 AM Author: Scarlet sanctuary turdskin #s are really impressive i tihnk. Top 20% for V10? sign me up. Top 70% or so for biglaw? well done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795999) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:09 AM Author: henna heady chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796015) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:10 AM Author: Scarlet sanctuary turdskin well it was fucked compared to previous years. but i think C ITE is doing better than how MVP did pre-ITE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796037) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 8:52 AM Author: abnormal therapy um no. 80+% got something from OCI pre-ITE @ our MVP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797941) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:11 AM Author: magical spot toaster tbf, I'm sure at least some of those offers came from below market firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796052) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:12 AM Author: henna heady chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796063) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 9:55 AM Author: orchid milk no. what below market firms recruit at columbia? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798055) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:29 PM Author: magical spot toaster Serious question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799888) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:09 AM Author: Gold exciting property quadroon We don't know the deferral rates yet though. CS told us to go check ATL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796014) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 3:18 AM Author: Sticky Potus Locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797411) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 10:46 AM Author: Gold exciting property quadroon Not her. Do you really think a chick like that would poast on a site like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798285) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:35 AM Author: Hairless house tattoo how many 1L Kent scholars were there last year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796357) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:43 AM Author: Razzle dark new version That's not quite right for '06. Again, 388 was the number of accepted offers, which presumably double-counts people who split. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796887) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:42 AM Author: Buff theater From CLS --> TTT all within one year of OCI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797283) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:38 AM Author: Submissive Theater Stage Ratface that confirms that hiring dropped off way more at lower-ranked firms than at V10 type places
btw there's a sizable contingent of each year's class that doesn't participate in eip. there's even a facebook group for it. probably like 20-25 people per year, including some on LR. dunno whether your ~400 participants number accounts for this. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:50 AM Author: Boyish Angry Piazza Electric Furnace It probably does (if inadvertently), since the total number of students, including transfers, is probably at least 420. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798824) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:56 PM Author: Plum vigorous hell more than that. i think our year was 380+ pre-transfer. and something like 60-70 transfers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799537) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:30 PM Author: magical spot toaster True, though nalp numbers alone pretty much establish this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799896) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 10:03 AM Author: talented associate this is not really true. you can look at nalp for confirmation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806865) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 4:20 PM Author: emerald unhinged toilet seat mediation EIP and EIW include below market firms as well as some government agencies and consulting firms. There were more of these in 2009 than in past years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14801533) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 6:51 PM Author: umber pit For EIP, the "offers accepted" numbers show zero for gov. agencies (some may have accepted, but they aren't counted in the totals because a few of the agencies didn't provide numbers). Also, only one person accepted a consulting gig from EIP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14802956) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 9:32 AM Author: Boyish Angry Piazza Electric Furnace How many total firms/agencies were there? In '06 there were 335, including each office separately. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806840) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:06 PM Author: Charcoal gaming laptop stead IIRC ~260 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14807321) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 9:58 AM Author: Hilarious party of the first part rehab 30% no job from interviews at NYU/CLS is a bloodbath.... what are you guys talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806864) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 10:18 AM Author: high-end racy stag film Exactly. That's 100+ students at each school who would have cruised into big firm jobs 3 years ago. From the perspective of a potential student, 70% is great and likely worth sticker.
From the perspective of a law student, it's shocking. It's 1 in every 3 people you know have a serious wrench thrown into their career and debt management plan. |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:01 PM Author: Charcoal gaming laptop stead Of course it's a blood bath, but we already knew that before the numbers came out. Many had predicted it was much worse, given the anecdotal reports. Thus, the numbers are surprisingly good to some people on here [not me, they are exactly what I expected]. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14807289) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:09 PM Author: Multi-colored canary half-breed water buffalo definitely thought theyd be a lot worse. my estimation was 50% at CCN, 30% MVPD, worse for lower.
so im guessing we can revise those numbers upward?
80-100% (of those who did EIW) at HYS 70% at CCN 50% at MVPDB 30% at GNC
I dont think Berkeley should be that high. The combination of a shitty grading system, fewer east coast firms attending, and traditionally placing in the west coast (which was one of hte most hard hit) probably means they are a good bit lower than 50%, but that's just IMO. |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:10 PM Author: Charismatic den kitty I have several 3L friends who STILL have no employment lined up. Graduation is in 3 weeks. These kids are in serious trouble.
I cannot imagine the disaster that awaits the class of 2011. Not all of the 140 jobless 2Ls are going to be able to find someting in public interest.
And this is CLS/NYU. I imagine 2Ls in schools 10-20 are well and truly fucked.
Maybe this will dramatically reduce law school applications?
I mean... holy fuck. |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:12 PM Author: Charcoal gaming laptop stead "Maybe this will dramatically reduce law school applications?"
*snorts*
tyft |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 1:40 PM Author: Charismatic den kitty yeah. fair. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808097) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 1:34 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass school cafeteria sound barrier Subject: lol what kind of a douche gunner runs home from the EIP Orientation meeting and posts these stats? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808049) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 1:53 PM Author: Deranged voyeur office Me. As for the douche gunner part, see:
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1279494&mc=54&forum_id=2 |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 2:37 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass school cafeteria sound barrier no one cares. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808470) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 3:16 PM Author: Deranged voyeur office Apparently SOMEBODY cares: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&mc=57&forum_id=2#14795798 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808737) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 3:39 PM Author: Multi-colored canary half-breed water buffalo since when is posting stats from school considered gunnerism? shouldnt a gunner be memorizing their 1000 page outline instead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808941) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 3:41 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass school cafeteria sound barrier no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808955) |
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Date: April 25th, 2010 1:30 PM Author: Comical Corner Preventive Strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14816793) |