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Eastern German girls singing patriotic songs, part II - link
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Date: April 18th, 2025 8:03 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Raffy_NDS/status/1912239042818691072
Time to retire part 1:
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5704000&mc=309&forum_id=2
Song says:
This is for our children, they shouldn't live in chains. Live without fear for what will come, without tears. We must save their future, otherwise it's too late. If we die in the process, Germany should not go down with us.
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Date: April 18th, 2025 8:05 PM Author: adulterous business firm It may be just me, but I find her very attractive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48861605) |
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Date: April 18th, 2025 8:09 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin She's one of my favorites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48861614) |
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Date: April 19th, 2025 9:42 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1912125045641461960
The (shitty) song goes:
You wrote our hymn "White Power" and demanded freedom for (Rudolf) Hess. You sang about the fight of our soldiers against the red scourge. |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 12:36 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/jfbuendnis/status/1909534293052768707 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48865712) |
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Date: April 21st, 2025 7:03 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Black_Hole110/status/1912135315843579982
Her message reads "I don't take crap from any ticks." "Ticks" seems to be a favorite east German word for immigrant parasites. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2025 6:17 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Klrnmnsxbmr/status/1914702199864672448
This is an old German Navy song she's singing. |
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Date: April 22nd, 2025 9:05 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin Her teeth could use some work, but I like her. Don't see many girls with pride in Old Prussia, gets points for originality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48872438) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 2:26 AM Author: Dashing aggressive sound barrier resort 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48982560) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2025 6:34 PM Author: titillating location Boner police got cucked by Sam Hyde (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48872075) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2025 9:07 PM Author: Hot space they do the Horst Wessel-Lied? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48872444) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2025 9:12 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin Pretty sure that will get you arrested in Germany. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48872456) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2025 2:40 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1914565283861188816
This song is by Onkelz, which is apparently really popular among far-right Germans. These lyrics just say "I'll show you what it means to be alone, I drink tears, black wine, I follow you deep into ..." Shitty song.
This one far-right song I posted earlier is awesome, but the other ones I've heard seem awful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCvdrm6r_4g
Really good song about this singer's choice to rebel against German society and become a far-right girl.
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Date: April 26th, 2025 8:59 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Asqerosso/status/1909605986534404255 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48883846) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:25 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Jaein_vincible/status/1917190201111163035
She's in front of an East German flag and playing a non-political "fuck you" type punk song. Not sure that qualifies as "patriotic."
*judges consult*
We'll allow it because of the tits. |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:29 AM Author: Scarlet mind-boggling sanctuary she seems to know exactly what she is doing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48890380) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/1917309117661594094
Another East Germany fangirl. Surprised how many of them there are. |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:29 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Black_Hole110/status/1917258006326084095 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48892220) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 3:14 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Black_Hole110/status/1917254988067188994 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48894171) |
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Date: September 10th, 2025 9:32 AM Author: Insanely Creepy Emerald Ticket Booth Rigpig time to move back to europe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49249906) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 11:14 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/1917221626027851947 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48895377) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2025 1:19 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/SchalkHogan/status/1917308239642820947 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48898107) |
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Date: May 5th, 2025 2:27 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Raffy_NDS/status/1917309408532389960 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48905730) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 12:44 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/AlloBiddSchoen/status/1919515760260419771 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48907287) |
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Date: May 6th, 2025 11:17 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Black_Hole110/status/1919664126478930300
Song goes:
Loyal friends who always stand by me. We'll triumph together or go down in glory. And see each other again in Valhalla. And Wotan will laugh at my stupid songs. |
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Date: May 7th, 2025 10:52 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1919807944213811453
There's like 5 shitty skinhead songs that these girls all seem to choose from. This one being the "put your boots back on, my friend" song. |
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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:16 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1920550643808227355
The committee voted and decided to extend this thread to Bavarian Dirndl girls. Actually seem to be a lot of these videos, gonna give them their own thread.
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5722569&mc=5&forum_id=2 |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 8:42 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1922247737807896660 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48926360) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 6:14 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/oberlausitzer_/status/1922326873834439036 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48927983) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 7:28 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Black_Hole110/status/1922322165862441321
Probably a nightmare to have as a girlfriend, but hot. |
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Date: May 19th, 2025 11:26 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Black_Hole110/status/1924666515032334764
Another genius who can't hold a camera right side up. |
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Date: May 20th, 2025 7:14 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/desolat32788/status/1924864680046055524
Song goes:
I walk through the street, the sky shining blue With a look in the distance I know for sure. Yeah, I'm home here, everyone here is on my side. I've known it from the start, it was always clear to me. The East rocks - our home, where we were born. The East rocks - our heart's blood, we've lost for you. Let's celebrate, pour us a cold one. We'll show you what it means, to be an Ossi (East German) |
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Date: May 20th, 2025 11:23 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/1924805664116817938
Charming song - it goes:
Just had a demonstration. NPD (far right party) in Berlin. There's guaranteed to be trouble there, so let's go there. Antifa was there and smelled very unpleasant. I know why you disguise yourselves, you have a problem. Hey you ticks (slang for immigrants), your parents are siblings. |
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Date: May 21st, 2025 11:16 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Black_Hole110/status/1924901658963640398
Song goes:
Antifa, you can kiss my ass (roughly) I laugh at you, and you don't even notice You fight against me, how laughable
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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:47 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1920756812283793505
Song's about a blue-eyed Aryan girl. |
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Date: May 30th, 2025 11:30 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1927234944348078131 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48975635) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 1:04 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/1924707661045489955
Apparently the word went out among East German girls to start singing this song. Just a bubblegum Nena love song:
"I haven't missed anything today, because all I've done is dream of you. I haven't seen you in a long time, so I'll go on over to you. etc etc" |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 1:31 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/1914972281899528686
Little change of pace- this low self-esteem girl thinks shes not pretty enough to sing a song on one of these videos and go viral so instead she made this video bemoaning her perceived lack of beauty and how she has it harder in life than pretty girls.
I'm sure this girl is real sympathetic:
https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/1927410722117656931 |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 10:00 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/1927465583400091858 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48985073) |
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Date: June 4th, 2025 6:57 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/1927258473126826133 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48987293) |
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Date: June 4th, 2025 6:58 PM Author: crimson idiot why are you a pedo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48987294) |
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Date: June 5th, 2025 9:06 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1929891474042171731 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48990799) |
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Date: June 6th, 2025 6:49 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/1924346776489763327 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48993134) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 1:00 AM Author: fragrant puppy depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49023141) |
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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:50 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/1922308700573663594 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48994367) |
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Date: June 7th, 2025 9:46 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1927458300217430453 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#48995783) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 9:20 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/1929764915264258475
This is one of the few hard right songs these girls sing that is halfway tolerable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiMwV5gYIp0&t=36s |
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Date: June 11th, 2025 9:33 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1932457127865720879 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49006944) |
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Date: June 14th, 2025 12:26 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Black_Hole110/status/1932465661638271138 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49014201) |
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Date: June 17th, 2025 12:53 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1929783251981259053
Song is entitled "Proud to be a German." |
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Date: June 19th, 2025 11:51 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/1932422580754960529 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49033937) |
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Date: June 24th, 2025 10:12 AM Author: Scarlet mind-boggling sanctuary pretty face but I don't love her choice of music https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1937483323233960065 |
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Date: June 24th, 2025 10:48 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin Most of these far right bands are just horrible. Not really surprising when you consider that being openly far right is a prescription for getting your music banned in Germany.
A big exception is this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zkzQgszbvI&t=25s
One of the best German songs I've heard anywhere- the lady talks about her decision to rebel against German society by being far-right.
I also like this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3hbQCw2_7o&t=24s |
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Date: June 24th, 2025 10:49 AM Author: Tan Fighting Dog Poop School Cafeteria you are weird as everliving fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49045601) |
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Date: June 24th, 2025 10:53 AM Author: crimson idiot he's a reddit tranny (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49045608) |
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Date: June 24th, 2025 1:28 PM Author: Scarlet mind-boggling sanctuary https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1937556053274869894 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49046029) |
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Date: June 24th, 2025 11:42 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1937445371502035357
Caption reads "thank my mom and dad that I didn't turn out to be left-wing scum." |
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Date: June 25th, 2025 9:54 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/1937518578166824979 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49050365) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 9:14 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/1937549278328537335 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49052638) |
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Date: July 12th, 2025 9:26 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/DshenzBond/status/1942647038287417515 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49095421) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 10:42 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/1945113622763745568 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49104674) |
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Date: July 17th, 2025 8:58 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1934866910627156381 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49110494) |
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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:15 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1942453108430221605 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49113279) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 9:00 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1947721527463711084 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49124133) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 3:47 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin Not very subtle showing her short-shorts at the start lol. Hot AF at any rate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49125251) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 8:05 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1947698121284456754
This girl seems to be an actual Nazi. Song goes:
Black is the night in which we get you. White are the men who triumph for Germany. Red is the blood on the asphalt.
(Those are the colors of the Nazi flag of course). |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Raffy_NDS/status/1950302868289864026
Song is entitled "there's no one like you." |
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Date: July 31st, 2025 9:07 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1945107531015348353
Odd song selection:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wir_sind_des_Geyers_schwarzer_Haufen |
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Date: August 5th, 2025 11:53 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/SchalkHogan/status/1952791980419019193 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49160797) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 7:07 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1955188025446584491 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49179728) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:27 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/AlloBiddSchoen/status/1956125359545704851
Song starts off: "we play until all of Germany sings" |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:57 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1952811055585128449
Really weird figure, still cute. |
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Date: August 19th, 2025 2:32 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/SchalkHogan/status/1957721400728514888 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49197662) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 2:45 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1960352682423587080
Song goes:
All the fairy tales are lies, The stars we see are long dead (editor: not true) But I still look up. I find the world too big. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:38 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1960243996032172084 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49215517) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 9:23 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Tedmarsgoi2/status/1960347932130959814
Song goes: "it's a long way back into our home country, so far, so far" |
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Date: September 10th, 2025 9:01 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1965425510852559220 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49249866) |
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Date: September 16th, 2025 1:41 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/1968006892246143192 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49275007) |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 4:05 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Raffy_NDS/status/1970585536990716150
Message says "the fact is my kids will be named Luca or Anna and not Ahmed or Dilara." |
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Date: September 29th, 2025 9:57 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/DieFramingGmbH/status/1960259194436587593 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49313105) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 10:55 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1982910598582284327 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49384486) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 11:25 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1978854011798278203
My favorite type of video of this genre- wholesome, happy patriotic German girls. |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 1:16 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1978575179811852663 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49386881) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 1:23 AM Author: Citrine alpha property 180000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49386899) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 7:45 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/1970392077448950017
She says "Me? I'm right-wing." |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 11:39 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/1988120755356262526
"We play until all of Germany sings!" |
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Date: January 7th, 2026 4:23 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/2008561697154597230
She could get in trouble for the little salute at the end. |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 1:26 AM Author: free-loading set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49613771) |
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Date: January 13th, 2026 8:32 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/2010965032037929279 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49585627) |
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Date: January 13th, 2026 2:44 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/2011038921988461016 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49586538) |
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Date: January 13th, 2026 3:01 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/2011166489379000358 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49586581) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 12:51 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Raffy_NDS/status/2013749613283434837 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49613745) |
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Date: February 27th, 2026 11:04 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/2026175261344206957
This song fucking rules - lyrics in this clip go:
You call me hostile, but I call it resistance. Because I love freedom and also my country. I will keep on fighting, I have no choice. And pay for the rebellion with my life. You call me a Nazi and laugh at me. I'm under complete surveillance, but I don't care I prefer to be by myself and fight my way forward. Because I can't live in slavery.
Full song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zkzQgszbvI |
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Date: March 5th, 2026 7:09 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/2028863218303541344 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49719297) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 10:11 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/2026326258146037853
Charming song, goes "you leftist cunts, all I can do is puke when I see you" |
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Date: March 8th, 2026 8:07 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar/status/2028787469672673643 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49726897) |
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Date: March 18th, 2026 3:45 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/2018796051738906625 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49753876) |
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Date: April 12th, 2026 12:00 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Black_Hole110/status/2043172630950269365
Not all that hot, but she's graded on the curve because of the kid. |
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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:11 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/idskrankefotze/status/2041236736240402644 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49824057) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 11:45 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/2066951188986446092 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49945665) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 11:46 PM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/BAMFBasar2/status/2066922500127436867 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#49945666) |
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Date: September 9th, 2026 12:14 AM Author: translucent excitant turdskin https://x.com/Black_Hole110/status/2092094449497051547 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5713045&forum_id=2#50124099) |