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Libs are so MAF about the “government shutdown” ending.

I thought they hated shutdowns and were making a huge deal t...
curious set boltzmann
  11/10/25
we’re going to primary several of the ones who pussied...
Shaky Orange Shrine
  11/10/25
you aren't part of any "we" you retarded tranny fa...
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tantric mood
  11/11/25
They could have definitely stuck it out and gotten more from...
adulterous home
  11/10/25
you pee sitting down and frat cum from your asshole
gaped gas station
  11/10/25
Ah yes, ACA subsidies, the supposed temporary COVID measure ...
beady-eyed crackhouse potus
  11/10/25
Because of the republican caucus you fool.
Razzmatazz deer antler
  11/10/25
ACA significantly increased the number of people insured and...
adulterous home
  11/10/25
It worked great!!! Which is why health insurance is now unaf...
beady-eyed crackhouse potus
  11/10/25
"Healthcare is unaffordable that's why we're canceling ...
Multi-colored piazza useless brakes
  11/10/25
no one actually gets these "subsidies"
gaped gas station
  11/10/25
subsidies are captured by industry. Consumer gets fucked.
walnut pozpig
  11/10/25
"insured" poors have high deductible plans with li...
gaped gas station
  11/10/25
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Trip Depressive Stead
  11/10/25
It's all the mandatory coverage of dick removal surgery
Mentally impaired cerise becky
  11/10/25
"That's why we're canceling subsidies" 🤣🤣ðŸ¤...
Multi-colored piazza useless brakes
  11/10/25
why the fuck should taxpayers pay $$$ to poors for high dedu...
gaped gas station
  11/10/25
Maybe it's better for "people" who had no health i...
Mentally impaired cerise becky
  11/10/25
I am not sure who gets these "subsidies" or why bu...
Mentally impaired cerise becky
  11/10/25
It BENDS the COST CURVE!
walnut pozpig
  11/10/25
lol we need subsidies for our shitty healthcare law or the a...
walnut pozpig
  11/10/25
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Passionate magical business firm trust fund
  11/10/25
It's amazing how quickly the narrative shifted from "IT...
beady-eyed crackhouse potus
  11/10/25
it's crazy how the answer the whole time was just ignoring l...
Heady spruce really tough guy market
  11/10/25
Where's the inconsistency? Goddamn you people are low IQ
Multi-colored piazza useless brakes
  11/10/25
reddit is maf that the dems are caving again. but last week ...
Heady spruce really tough guy market
  11/10/25
apparently americans are all extremely obese and also on the...
gaped gas station
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it’s much worse than this. the analysis is actually &q...
Blue Stage Keepsake Machete
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Passionate magical business firm trust fund
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Heady spruce really tough guy market
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sepia flirting lay
  11/10/25
This is the first shutdown that the libs have initiated. Too...
Sable organic girlfriend
  11/10/25
Is this board FOR or AGAINST Obamacare subsidies? I don&...
tantric mood
  11/10/25
The “subsidies” didn’t exist before Covid ...
Razzmatazz deer antler
  11/10/25
Healthcare costs from Obamacare were going up at the time of...
tantric mood
  11/10/25
You are treating "Costs" as if they're an immutabl...
beady-eyed crackhouse potus
  11/10/25
fuck what "other countries" do. every country exc...
gaped gas station
  11/10/25
Lol and? The GOP isn’t going to do any of that. They&r...
tantric mood
  11/10/25
"aca subsidies" should be rebranded as prolecare a...
gaped gas station
  11/10/25
A lot of things “should be” different with healt...
tantric mood
  11/10/25
What if “costs” are only going up so much becaus...
Razzmatazz deer antler
  11/10/25
same thing could be said about college tuition. kids grow u...
gaped gas station
  11/10/25
Meanwhile every "doctor" I've been to since 2020 h...
Mentally impaired cerise becky
  11/10/25
For. Anything to get people out of wage slave hell and runni...
Ocher nubile old irish cottage
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Multi-colored piazza useless brakes
  11/10/25
Why the h8 man
curious set boltzmann
  11/10/25
How many times did cons try and fail to the end the shutdown...
Multi-colored piazza useless brakes
  11/10/25
Last year I got $5000 in federal subsidies for my health ins...
swashbuckling corner
  11/10/25
u outed as a virgin. everyone on here should be old enough t...
Fragrant balding state gaming laptop
  11/10/25
Cr all virgins have no kids
swashbuckling corner
  11/10/25
well... that is true
Heady spruce really tough guy market
  11/10/25
Nah there are some virgins who have kids. There are dudes wi...
swashbuckling corner
  11/10/25
girls going to sperm banks filter by height, which means vir...
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  11/10/25
They're not always getting tall guy sperm a lot of times it'...
swashbuckling corner
  11/10/25
i doubt it. i donated sperm before. they want your medical a...
Heady spruce really tough guy market
  11/10/25
Nah there are successful sperm donors who don't fuck
swashbuckling corner
  11/10/25
Cons were so MAF about it happening
Multi-colored piazza useless brakes
  11/10/25


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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:48 AM
Author: curious set boltzmann

I thought they hated shutdowns and were making a huge deal that there was a shutdown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416627)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:51 AM
Author: Shaky Orange Shrine

we’re going to primary several of the ones who pussied out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416633)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:53 AM
Author: gaped gas station

you aren't part of any "we" you retarded tranny fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416638)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: Burgundy spectacular windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416641)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: Heady spruce really tough guy market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416662)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:40 AM
Author: nudist brass gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416744)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: walnut pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417659)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:06 PM
Author: big gay wizard theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49419028)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 1:33 AM
Author: Cocky plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49419568)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 2:00 AM
Author: tantric mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49419598)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:59 AM
Author: adulterous home

They could have definitely stuck it out and gotten more from the GOP on the ACA subsidies but at the same time I understand the reluctance to continue the shutdown given its impact. I do think they'll get the ACA subsidies by January.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416648)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:59 AM
Author: gaped gas station

you pee sitting down and frat cum from your asshole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416650)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: beady-eyed crackhouse potus

Ah yes, ACA subsidies, the supposed temporary COVID measure that proves yet again there's nothing more permanent than a temporary government program.

Riddle me this, wasn't the ACA supposed to make care more affordable and REDUCE premiums? So why the fuck is it that costs have exploded so badly that now it needs yet more subsidies? Before we move forward, we need a full reckoning of how badly democrats botched the healthcare system because JFC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416654)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Razzmatazz deer antler

Because of the republican caucus you fool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416681)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:38 AM
Author: adulterous home

ACA significantly increased the number of people insured and bent the cost curve. It is far from perfect. But it's far better than the system before it and certainly better than anything the GOP is offering, which is nothing.

https://x.com/mattyglesias/status/1699009766142378481

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416740)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: beady-eyed crackhouse potus

It worked great!!! Which is why health insurance is now unaffordable unless we give everybody $20K/year subsidies.

Do you even hear yourself.

The correct answer was to deregulate and let the free market work. Libs refuse. It's very sick (and sad).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416743)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:20 PM
Author: Multi-colored piazza useless brakes

"Healthcare is unaffordable that's why we're canceling your subsidies" 🤣🤣🤣

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417852)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:22 PM
Author: gaped gas station

no one actually gets these "subsidies"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417863)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: walnut pozpig

subsidies are captured by industry. Consumer gets fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49418049)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: gaped gas station

"insured" poors have high deductible plans with like $15K out of pocket maximums they could never pay if shit hit the fan. they'd be better off not having insurance and saving $ spent on premiums in a tax free account

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416745)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:03 AM
Author: Trip Depressive Stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416787)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Mentally impaired cerise becky

It's all the mandatory coverage of dick removal surgery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417675)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:20 PM
Author: Multi-colored piazza useless brakes

"That's why we're canceling subsidies" 🤣🤣🤣

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417854)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:25 PM
Author: gaped gas station

why the fuck should taxpayers pay $$$ to poors for high deductible/high OOP plans they can't possibly afford to pay the out of pocket costs for? if we're going to cover their nut then they should be forced to go to some shitty hmo type place in the back of a walmart and wait 6 months like the rest of the world besides America has to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417874)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: Mentally impaired cerise becky

Maybe it's better for "people" who had no health insurance before but anyone with a job got massively fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417662)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: Mentally impaired cerise becky

I am not sure who gets these "subsidies" or why but it seems the "insurance" covers almost nothing while still ending up outrageously expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417654)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: walnut pozpig

It BENDS the COST CURVE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417666)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: walnut pozpig

lol we need subsidies for our shitty healthcare law or the affordable care act won't be affordable!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417664)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:53 AM
Author: Passionate magical business firm trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416639)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: beady-eyed crackhouse potus

It's amazing how quickly the narrative shifted from "IT'S A REPUBLICAN SHUTDOWN"" to "WHY DID TRAITOR DEMS END THE SHUTDOWN?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416640)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: Heady spruce really tough guy market

it's crazy how the answer the whole time was just ignoring libs completely. teflon don had to show us the way.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416660)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:05 AM
Author: Multi-colored piazza useless brakes

Where's the inconsistency? Goddamn you people are low IQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416795)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:59 AM
Author: Heady spruce really tough guy market

reddit is maf that the dems are caving again. but last week they we saying people would be starving to death without SNAP.

these "people" are so unthinking. their analysis begins and ends with "did thing i want happen?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416649)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: gaped gas station

apparently americans are all extremely obese and also on the verge of starvation if they don't get govt checks for a few weeks. nothing conflicting there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416680)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: Blue Stage Keepsake Machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416701)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:05 AM
Author: Ocher nubile old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416797)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 4:07 PM
Author: mustard church electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49418011)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Blue Stage Keepsake Machete

it’s much worse than this. the analysis is actually "did thing i am being told i want happen?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416703)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:22 AM
Author: black fanboi associate

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416710)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:59 AM
Author: Passionate magical business firm trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416770)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:04 AM
Author: Heady spruce really tough guy market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416793)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: sepia flirting lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417858)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: Sable organic girlfriend

This is the first shutdown that the libs have initiated. Too chicken to hurt America for their own ends. They need to up their game in crazyshit if they ever try this again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416667)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: tantric mood

Is this board FOR or AGAINST Obamacare subsidies?

I don’t see how you can have the marketplace without subsidies. People will be paying 70% of their paychecks for “healthcare” otherwise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416670)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: Razzmatazz deer antler

The “subsidies” didn’t exist before Covid you idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416692)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: tantric mood

Healthcare costs from Obamacare were going up at the time of Covid independent of Covid. Covid was an opportunity to subsidize the premiums and pointing to Covid as an excuse. You can’t return to pre Covid Obamacare now because the costs have gone up even further.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416698)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: beady-eyed crackhouse potus

You are treating "Costs" as if they're an immutable force of nature. We spend far too much on the very sick, the very old and we also pay our medical professionals (especially doctors) much more than other countries do. That's what we need to patch, just throwing more money so a 90 year old stage 4 cancer patient can have twelve surgeries a day isn't a solution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416705)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: gaped gas station

fuck what "other countries" do. every country except america is a piece of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416713)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: tantric mood

Lol and? The GOP isn’t going to do any of that. They’re going to pass subsidies so premiums don’t increase by 50% and voters don’t destroy them in the midterms. The only question is how they are going to pass them, because they just shot themselves in the foot by not “caving” to the dems and doing it to get the gov back open. Now they have to do it themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416718)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:22 AM
Author: gaped gas station

"aca subsidies" should be rebranded as prolecare and the people on it should only be able to go to a limited network of the shittiest doctors out there. that's how every other system in this country works, poors drive shitty cars or take public transit, they live in shitty houses or shitty apartments, they send their kids to shitty schools with other poors, they eat shitty food, etc. but with healthcare they feel it's a divine right to get rolls royce coverage for whatever they want paid for by the govt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416712)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: tantric mood

A lot of things “should be” different with healthcare. Neither party will fix what needs to be fixed. The point is that the GOP is going to be running for cover in a few months to find an excuse to keep costs lower when they had the opportunity just now and passed it up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416714)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: Razzmatazz deer antler

What if “costs” are only going up so much because of “subsidies?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416725)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: gaped gas station

same thing could be said about college tuition. kids grow up poor and will likely spend the subsequent years being kind of poor but feel the need to live like aristocrats for four years via govt $. all it does it fuck them over in the long run and drive up costs for everyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416748)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: Mentally impaired cerise becky

Meanwhile every "doctor" I've been to since 2020 has retired at age 30 to learn coding or has fled the cuntry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417685)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Ocher nubile old irish cottage

For. Anything to get people out of wage slave hell and running their own business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416779)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:03 AM
Author: Multi-colored piazza useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416788)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: curious set boltzmann

Why the h8 man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417856)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: Multi-colored piazza useless brakes

How many times did cons try and fail to the end the shutdown?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49416801)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:16 PM
Author: swashbuckling corner

Last year I got $5000 in federal subsidies for my health insurance. I didn't go to the doctor once. My PCP is impossible to book. 2 month waiting list to see some English limit pajeet lady. She told me she sees hundreds of patients a week and has no idea who any of them are. This is name brand insurance. I'm pure profit for the system since I'm healthy and don't use it ever. Docs and insurers are leeches. If you're healthy premiums are just paying doctors you can't ever see to keep other people alive. Now think that the taxpayer is fronting this entire scam. It's all fraud and lies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417844)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:19 PM
Author: Fragrant balding state gaming laptop

u outed as a virgin. everyone on here should be old enough to be kidhaving age

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417849)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: swashbuckling corner

Cr all virgins have no kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417866)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:27 PM
Author: Heady spruce really tough guy market

well... that is true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417884)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: swashbuckling corner

Nah there are some virgins who have kids. There are dudes with busted in a tube and have progeny who have never fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417911)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:35 PM
Author: Fragrant balding state gaming laptop

girls going to sperm banks filter by height, which means virgins are inherently excluded because any tall guy fucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49417918)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: swashbuckling corner

They're not always getting tall guy sperm a lot of times it's switched out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795592&forum_id=2#49418090)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 4:10 PM
Author: Heady spruce really tough guy market

i doubt it. i donated sperm before. they want your medical and genetic history and you have to be tall, go to a good school, etc. i doubt there are any tall accomplished sane virgins down for donating sperm.

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Date: November 10th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: swashbuckling corner

Nah there are successful sperm donors who don't fuck

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Date: November 10th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: Multi-colored piazza useless brakes

Cons were so MAF about it happening

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