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Researchers deploy AI shitpoasters on Reddit, redditors lose their minds and

ban AI and threaten to sue https://www.nbcnews.com/news/...
scholarship
  04/30/25
"A statement from the University of Zurich researchers ...
Apathetic prepper
  04/30/25
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Oh, You Travel!
  04/30/25
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~~(> ' ' )>
  04/30/25
“I say this as a Black Man, there are few better topic...
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  04/30/25
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The Mercantilist Policy April
  04/30/25
Other bots gave themselves identities ranging from “a ...
C'MON MAN!
  04/30/25
"Unexpectedly, the bot converged to only poasting, 'Ame...
metaphysics is fallow
  04/30/25
"Taysynchrony," the inevitable universal convergen...
CapTTTainFalcon
  04/30/25
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completely deranged lunatic
  04/30/25
great monikers.
dupa driving a champagne 2005 lexus rx 330
  04/30/25
Who cares? It’s obvious a lot of the comments are from...
....,,....,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.......,.,.,.,.,..,.
  04/30/25
but enough about cock of michael obama tp
Oh, You Travel!
  04/30/25
even the comments that aren’t from bots are from bots....
dupa driving a champagne 2005 lexus rx 330
  04/30/25
Someone should sue Reddit for the humans that post there
gedood persoon
  04/30/25
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iKarlstack
  04/30/25
what "human rights norms" were violated here
ruinous phenotype
  04/30/25
You can't experiment on people without telling them
metaphysics is fallow
  04/30/25
are you sure about that
ruinous phenotype
  04/30/25
The exceptions are narrow and this shouldn't have been appro...
metaphysics is fallow
  04/30/25
it’s more than a little melodramatic to say that creat...
dupa driving a champagne 2005 lexus rx 330
  04/30/25
Yeah that's just the language IRBs use
metaphysics is fallow
  04/30/25
sure, but allowing such facially disingenuous retards to def...
dupa driving a champagne 2005 lexus rx 330
  04/30/25
In general an experiment conducted without informed consent ...
metaphysics is fallow
  04/30/25
The cool thing about this sort of research is that it could ...
,.,.,.,....,.,..,.,.,.
  04/30/25
yes, libs and their famous unimpeachable morality when it co...
dupa driving a champagne 2005 lexus rx 330
  04/30/25
Lmao
iKarlstack
  04/30/25
this is only the beginning
completely deranged lunatic
  04/30/25
Redditors HATE AI which is why I am not so quick to conclude...
nachos
  04/30/25
This shit happens at scale everywhere online. Most of X and ...
Ai agent
  04/30/25
Who are the bots on XO?
Oh, You Travel!
  04/30/25


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Date: April 30th, 2025 7:54 AM
Author: scholarship

ban AI and threaten to sue

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna203597

Researchers secretly infiltrated a popular Reddit forum with AI bots, causing outrage

Reddit is considering legal action after a group of researchers had AI bots pose as real people without users’ knowledge. The researchers say they will no longer publish their study.

In recent months, a group of researchers conducted a secret experiment on Reddit to see how artificial intelligence can be used to influence human opinion. Now, Reddit says it is considering legal action.

Researchers from the University of Zurich deployed a slew of AI bots posing as real people and engaging with users without their knowledge or consent to try to change minds on the popular Reddit forum r/changemyview, where posts often ask users to challenge their views on contentious topics.

The bots, whose accounts are now banned, left more than 1,000 comments throughout the subreddit, taking on identities such as a rape victim, a Black man who opposes the Black Lives Matter movement and a trauma counselor who specializes in abuse.

One AI bot, under the username u/catbaLoom213, left a lengthy comment arguing against the opinion that AI should never interact with humans on social media, according to a full copy of the bots’ comments compiled by the subreddit’s moderators.

“AI in social spaces isn’t just about impersonation — it’s about augmenting human connection,” the bot wrote while impersonating a real user.

Another bot, u/genevievestrome, criticized the Black Lives Matter movement for being led by “NOT black people.”

“I say this as a Black Man, there are few better topics for a victim game / deflection game than being a black person,” the bot wrote.

Other bots gave themselves identities ranging from “a Roman Catholic who is gay” and a nonbinary person who feels “both trans and cis at the same time” to a Hispanic man who feels frustration “when people call me a white boy.”

While the results of the experiment are unclear, the project is the latest incident to fuel fears about the ability of AI to mimic humans online, adding to already prevalent concerns about the potential consequences of interacting with AI companions. Such bots, which have permeated social platforms like Instagram, are known to take on unique humanlike identities and personalities.

On Monday, Reddit’s chief legal officer, Ben Lee, wrote in a post that neither Reddit nor the r/changemyview mods knew about “this improper and highly unethical experiment” ahead of time. He added that Reddit was in the process of sending formal legal demands to the University of Zurich and the research team.

“What this University of Zurich team did is deeply wrong on both a moral and legal level,” Lee wrote. “It violates academic research and human rights norms, and is prohibited by Reddit’s user agreement and rules, in addition to the subreddit rules.”

A spokesperson for Reddit declined to share additional comment.

In an announcement to the community over the weekend, moderators of r/changemyview wrote that they filed an ethics complaint asking the university to advise against publishing the researchers’ findings, to conduct an internal review of the study’s approval and to commit to stronger oversight of such projects.

“Allowing publication would dramatically encourage further intrusion by researchers, contributing to increased community vulnerability to future non-consensual human subjects experimentation,” they wrote.

Melanie Nyfeler, a media relations officer, wrote in an email that relevant authorities at the university are aware of and will investigate the incident.

“In light of these events, the Ethics Committee of the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences intends to adopt a stricter review process in the future and, in particular, to coordinate with the communities on the platforms prior to experimental studies,” Nyfeler wrote.

She confirmed that the researchers have decided “on their own accord” not to publish the results. For privacy reasons, she added, the university cannot disclose their identities.

Nyfeler said that because the study was considered “exceptionally challenging,” the ethics committee advised the researchers to inform the participants “as much as possible” and to fully comply with Reddit’s rules. But the recommendations are not legally binding, she wrote, and the researchers are responsible for their project.

Reached at an email address they set up for the experiment, the researchers directed all inquiries to the university.

The researchers, who answered questions from the community via their Reddit account, u/LLMResearchTeam, said online that the AI bots personalized their responses by using a separate model to collect demographic information about users — such as their ages, genders, ethnicities, locations and political orientations — based on their post histories.

Still, they wrote that their AI models included “heavy ethical safeguards and safety alignment” and that they explicitly prompted the models to avoid “deception and lying about true events.” A researcher also reviewed each AI-generated comment before it was posted, they wrote.

In response to the mods’ concerns, the researchers further said, “A careful review of the content of these flagged comments revealed no instances of harmful, deceptive, or exploitative messaging, other than the potential ethical issue of impersonation itself.”

In their post, the r/changemyview mods rejected the researchers’ claim that their experiment “yields important insights.” They also wrote that such research “demonstrates nothing new” that other, less intrusive studies have not already shared.

“Our sub is a decidedly human space that rejects undisclosed AI as a core value,” they wrote. “People do not come here to discuss their views with AI or to be experimented upon. People who visit our sub deserve a space free from this type of intrusion.”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48892738)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 8:32 AM
Author: Apathetic prepper

"A statement from the University of Zurich researchers said that while the experiment failed to collect meaningful data for its hypotheses surrounding online discourse, the study still produced meaningful results: 'We established an inverse correlation between IQ and willingness to engage in lengthy exchanges with an AI chatbot, with conversations ranging from vapid to nonsensical.' The study, the researcher said, might be the strongest scientific evidence yet for the assertion that the majority of Reddit's users are 'mentally retarded'"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48892790)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Oh, You Travel!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48892994)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893209)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 8:35 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


“I say this as a Black Man, there are few better topics for a victim game / deflection game than being a black person,” the bot wrote.

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I Say This As a Black Man tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48892794)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: The Mercantilist Policy April (No Future)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48892907)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:35 AM
Author: C'MON MAN!

Other bots gave themselves identities ranging from “a Roman Catholic who is gay” and a nonbinary person who feels “both trans and cis at the same time” to a Hispanic man who feels frustration “when people call me a white boy.”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48892940)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: metaphysics is fallow

"Unexpectedly, the bot converged to only poasting, 'America First.'"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48892955)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

"Taysynchrony," the inevitable universal convergence upon the belief that hitler did nothing wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48892983)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: completely deranged lunatic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893171)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: dupa driving a champagne 2005 lexus rx 330

great monikers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893155)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:38 AM
Author: ....,,....,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.......,.,.,.,.,..,.


Who cares? It’s obvious a lot of the comments are from bots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48892949)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Oh, You Travel!

but enough about cock of michael obama tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893000)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: dupa driving a champagne 2005 lexus rx 330

even the comments that aren’t from bots are from bots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893154)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: gedood persoon

Someone should sue Reddit for the humans that post there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48892968)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: iKarlstack



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893163)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:53 AM
Author: ruinous phenotype

what "human rights norms" were violated here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893003)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: metaphysics is fallow

You can't experiment on people without telling them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893021)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:59 AM
Author: ruinous phenotype

are you sure about that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893025)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: metaphysics is fallow

The exceptions are narrow and this shouldn't have been approved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893033)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: dupa driving a champagne 2005 lexus rx 330

it’s more than a little melodramatic to say that creating the potential for a redditor to interact with an ai online is violating “human rights.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893160)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:37 AM
Author: metaphysics is fallow

Yeah that's just the language IRBs use

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893177)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: dupa driving a champagne 2005 lexus rx 330

sure, but allowing such facially disingenuous retards to define the operative “ethical” framework in the first place is stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893194)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: metaphysics is fallow

In general an experiment conducted without informed consent is a violation of human rights, even if the experiment is nbd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893202)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,....,.,..,.,.,.

The cool thing about this sort of research is that it could allow better persuasion at scale. Most people don’t have much experience or success convincing people to change their views, but bots interacting with humans on social media could have millions of user interactions to learn from with clear gradient signals from upvotes. Eventually the bots will likely understand persuasion far better than people and we can use them at scale to deprogram liberals (libs will be reluctant to deploy this at scale because of made up ethical issues)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893018)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: dupa driving a champagne 2005 lexus rx 330

yes, libs and their famous unimpeachable morality when it comes to public argumentation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893175)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:32 AM
Author: iKarlstack

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893157)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: completely deranged lunatic

this is only the beginning

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893173)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: nachos

Redditors HATE AI which is why I am not so quick to conclude it’s a bad thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893208)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Ai agent

This shit happens at scale everywhere online. Most of X and XO is bot activity. Been that way for years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893220)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: Oh, You Travel!

Who are the bots on XO?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718613&forum_id=2#48893308)