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Trump getting rid of automatic engine shutoff in cars.

Lee Zeldin @epaleezeldin Start/stop technology: where yo...
Sadistic filthpig theatre
  05/12/25
jesus christ liberals are fucking stupid
purple goal in life
  05/14/25
mount rushmore him now
Iridescent balding church building alpha
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aromatic address
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Milky Ungodly Bawdyhouse
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cocky nudist gas station community account
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Do people dislike this? Why? I've never had a car with it bu...
Vivacious flushed people who are hurt
  05/12/25
I don't care much if it's a rental but obviously starting yo...
Bipolar hairraiser boistinker
  05/12/25
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Overrated Sable Cuckold State
  05/12/25
Its one of the worst examples of bureaucratic brain rot. T...
Sadistic filthpig theatre
  05/12/25
variable valve timing lets engines run in atkinson cycle at ...
Motley area
  05/13/25
did you install a modern start/stop on a 70s car? or do you ...
Drab field macaca
  05/12/25
it isn't instant. you're trying to make a quick left turn, h...
Iridescent balding church building alpha
  05/12/25
Fucks up the starter, and is pointless. I had a car that th...
Insanely creepy cyan puppy
  05/12/25
Is that why starters keep going bad in Toyota Hybrids?
Motley area
  05/13/25
Does anyone actually use this "feature"? My car d...
Bipolar hairraiser boistinker
  05/12/25
It's annoying as fuck b/c most cars don't allow you to set i...
Contagious abnormal partner
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Bipolar hairraiser boistinker
  05/12/25
its like the calibri font of car features
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cocky nudist gas station community account
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cerise market
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lavender vengeful sneaky criminal
  05/14/25
It's on by default and some cars make it a pain in the ass t...
Magenta bbw trailer park
  05/12/25
This is one of my top 3 annoyances in daily life. A true 180...
Magenta bbw trailer park
  05/12/25
If this actually one of the worst things in your life congra...
Exhilarant twisted corner tank
  05/12/25
it was always a ridiculous concept
stimulating lay coffee pot
  05/12/25
Why burn twelve cents of has when you could replace your sta...
orchid supple step-uncle's house
  05/12/25
just remove the second little twink battery your car will au...
Charismatic Poppy Wagecucks Coldplay Fan
  05/12/25
Replacing it with a mod that makes every engine roll coal at...
Frozen den
  05/12/25
Not a single thing you or I do in our lifetimes will change ...
Insanely creepy cyan puppy
  05/12/25
Renting a modern Volvo in Arizona only to discover at the fi...
wine elastic band idiot
  05/12/25
i read that Volvo completed removed the option to disable it...
Iridescent balding church building alpha
  05/12/25
*creeps slowly out into the intersection in order to keep ca...
wine elastic band idiot
  05/12/25
China*
diverse sooty ticket booth
  05/12/25
Vovlo is chinese bro
diverse sooty ticket booth
  05/12/25
Don’t rent a Vulva bro. It’s a sure fire way to ...
Insanely creepy cyan puppy
  05/12/25
How was Sixt otherwise?
cerise market
  05/13/25
I’m a ride-or-die Hertzmo. Love the danger that they ...
wine elastic band idiot
  05/13/25
Patriots are in control
Bearded dilemma wrinkle
  05/12/25
"For non-electric vehicles, fuel economy gains from thi...
passionate fighting lodge
  05/12/25
"idling" isnt just at stoplights though. its fucki...
stimulating lay coffee pot
  05/12/25
fraud numbers to justify some stupid net zero nonsense
Aphrodisiac ape
  05/13/25
do not disagree any idea where to get non fraud numbers?
passionate fighting lodge
  05/13/25
there really don't seem to be any. everything seems to be...
Iridescent balding church building alpha
  05/13/25
20% seems fair. how % of your drive is normally at red light...
diverse sooty ticket booth
  05/14/25
are you a nyc uber driver?
Iridescent balding church building alpha
  05/14/25
wouldnt nyc be like 50% idling?
diverse sooty ticket booth
  05/14/25
Most people are driving on freeways like 80% of the time.
Bipolar hairraiser boistinker
  05/14/25
ljl
diverse sooty ticket booth
  05/14/25
ljl with Toyota hybrids you can't tell when the engine is st...
Motley area
  05/13/25
*Mossad shutting off ur engine in the middle of the freeway*
Comical locus
  05/13/25
*Libs continue turning off cars at stops in protest*
Obsidian provocative kitty
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Sadistic filthpig theatre
  05/14/25
I thought I was the only person who hated that. Drives me ab...
Naked Translucent Nibblets Love Of Her Life
  05/14/25
lol @ getting mad that your car isnt contining to pollute wh...
diverse sooty ticket booth
  05/14/25
It’s annoying as fuck when you hit a red light and it ...
Naked Translucent Nibblets Love Of Her Life
  05/14/25
i am not young but LOL at worrying your car is going to die ...
diverse sooty ticket booth
  05/14/25
libs have shit for brains
passionate fighting lodge
  05/19/25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MSv1om_7DgU
Bipolar hairraiser boistinker
  05/14/25


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Date: May 12th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: Sadistic filthpig theatre

Lee Zeldin

@epaleezeldin

Start/stop technology: where your car dies at every red light so companies get a climate participation trophy. EPA approved it, and everyone hates it, so we’re fixing it.

https://x.com/epaleezeldin/status/1921894994769575972

So you voted for global warming, rising sea levels and mass climate refugees? Are you sure about this, Trumpkins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923573)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: purple goal in life

jesus christ liberals are fucking stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929783)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: Iridescent balding church building alpha

mount rushmore him now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923581)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Sadistic filthpig theatre

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923582)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: aromatic address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923808)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: Milky Ungodly Bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924185)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: cocky nudist gas station community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924264)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Vivacious flushed people who are hurt

Do people dislike this? Why? I've never had a car with it but I've had rentals and it doesnt bother me at all. The engine instantly restarts. Does the function degrade over time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923583)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Bipolar hairraiser boistinker

I don't care much if it's a rental but obviously starting your car engine hundreds of times a day for no reason is going to fuck it up over time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923588)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Overrated Sable Cuckold State



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923590)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: Sadistic filthpig theatre

Its one of the worst examples of bureaucratic brain rot. The energy costs of prematurely replacing starters, etc. is going to be way more than the energy saved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923594)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:31 PM
Author: Motley area

variable valve timing lets engines run in atkinson cycle at startup so they require less toque to crank. Hybrids run in atkinson cycle full time, so what you may be feeling is the shift in valve timing after the crankshaft gets cranked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48928460)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Drab field macaca

did you install a modern start/stop on a 70s car? or do you turn your 70s vehicle on and off at each stoplight? those are the only way your "obviously" retarded claim would be true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924192)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: Iridescent balding church building alpha

it isn't instant. you're trying to make a quick left turn, hit the gas, and ooops the car has to restart itself.

also it is just there to game CAFE stats, directly raising the frontend cost of the car and prematurely wearing out the battery, starter and alternator to do it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923635)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: Insanely creepy cyan puppy

Fucks up the starter, and is pointless.

I had a car that the AC would turn off when this happened too. You can disable it but still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923813)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: Motley area

Is that why starters keep going bad in Toyota Hybrids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48927473)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: Bipolar hairraiser boistinker

Does anyone actually use this "feature"? My car doesn't have it but every rental car does and I always have to disable it every time I start the car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923585)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: Contagious abnormal partner

It's annoying as fuck b/c most cars don't allow you to set it once, you have to turn off the "feature" every time you start the car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923600)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: Bipolar hairraiser boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923609)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: stimulating lay coffee pot

its like the calibri font of car features

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923618)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Magenta bbw trailer park



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:47 PM
Author: cocky nudist gas station community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924271)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:12 PM
Author: cerise market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48927457)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: lavender vengeful sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929781)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: Magenta bbw trailer park

It's on by default and some cars make it a pain in the ass to disable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923619)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:02 AM
Author: Magenta bbw trailer park

This is one of my top 3 annoyances in daily life. A true 180 if he does this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923586)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Exhilarant twisted corner tank

If this actually one of the worst things in your life congrats on your chill life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923674)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:08 AM
Author: stimulating lay coffee pot

it was always a ridiculous concept

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923599)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: orchid supple step-uncle's house

Why burn twelve cents of has when you could replace your starter 3x as often!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923663)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Charismatic Poppy Wagecucks Coldplay Fan

just remove the second little twink battery your car will automatically recognize this and deactivate the system (not legal advice)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923669)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: Frozen den

Replacing it with a mod that makes every engine roll coal at a red light.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923680)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: Insanely creepy cyan puppy

Not a single thing you or I do in our lifetimes will change "climate change" so why fuck up our lives fixing imaginary problems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923806)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: wine elastic band idiot

Renting a modern Volvo in Arizona only to discover at the first stop light, which is very long, that your engine and AC are shut off. There is no physical button to disable the feature and the menus on the touchscreen are impenetrable with the checkbox to disable this intentionally buried by a Swedish engineer who has never seen a 90 degree day in his life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924102)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:09 PM
Author: Iridescent balding church building alpha

i read that Volvo completed removed the option to disable it from newest models, that guy in Sweden caught on that you mistakenly felt you needed air conditioning. you now have to put it into manual at the light, or keep pressing the gas to keep it going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924116)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: wine elastic band idiot

*creeps slowly out into the intersection in order to keep car in motion*

Being fatally T-boned to death would be preferable to dying of heat stroke. At least less sweaty and more dignified a way to go out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924173)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: diverse sooty ticket booth

China*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924202)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: diverse sooty ticket booth

Vovlo is chinese bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924200)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Insanely creepy cyan puppy

Don’t rent a Vulva bro. It’s a sure fire way to herpes and the clap. Don’t ask how I know this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924305)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: cerise market

How was Sixt otherwise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48927463)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: wine elastic band idiot

I’m a ride-or-die Hertzmo. Love the danger that they might negligently have you jailed.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140998674/hertz-false-accusation-stealing-cars-settlement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48928444)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: Bearded dilemma wrinkle

Patriots are in control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924180)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: passionate fighting lodge

"For non-electric vehicles, fuel economy gains from this technology are typically in the range of 3–10%, potentially as high as 12%.[3] In the United States, according to the Department of Energy, idling wastes more than 6 billion U.S. gallons (23 billion liters; 5.0 billion imperial gallons) of fuel per year.[4]"

"The amount of gasoline used annually in the US varies from year to year, but it is generally in the range of 120 to 140 billion gallons. This translates to an average of about 340 to 390 million gallons per day. "

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924251)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: stimulating lay coffee pot

"idling" isnt just at stoplights though. its fucking retards fiddling with their phones while stopped in the right lane for 15 minutes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924390)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:55 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac ape

fraud numbers to justify some stupid net zero nonsense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48926158)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: passionate fighting lodge

do not disagree

any idea where to get non fraud numbers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48927454)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: Iridescent balding church building alpha

there really don't seem to be any.

everything seems to be based on crazy studies that claim that people spend 20% of their time idling (https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/does-auto-start-stop-save-fuel/)

if that were true, maybe it would make some sense, but then you'd expect to just have it as a feature people could turn on and off and not some shit that is forced down people's throats.

even taking industry numbers at face value, grok thinks it would take about 3 years to save enough gas to make up for the higher purchase price, and if you include higher ongoing maintenance costs it would be an overall expense



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48927540)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: diverse sooty ticket booth

20% seems fair. how % of your drive is normally at red lights or waiting your turn to turn, etc?

do you think you are driving forward 90% of the time? if so you are probably retarded or a trucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929748)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Iridescent balding church building alpha

are you a nyc uber driver?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929810)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: diverse sooty ticket booth

wouldnt nyc be like 50% idling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929960)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: Bipolar hairraiser boistinker

Most people are driving on freeways like 80% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929953)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:28 PM
Author: diverse sooty ticket booth

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929958)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: Motley area

ljl with Toyota hybrids you can't tell when the engine is stopping or starting. You need an icon on the dashboard to tell you when it's EV mode

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48927478)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:26 PM
Author: Comical locus

*Mossad shutting off ur engine in the middle of the freeway*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48928450)



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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: Obsidian provocative kitty

*Libs continue turning off cars at stops in protest*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48928469)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Sadistic filthpig theatre

.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929771)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Naked Translucent Nibblets Love Of Her Life

I thought I was the only person who hated that. Drives me absolutely crazy. Why oh why do Democrats leave these 98/2 issues for Republicans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929770)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: diverse sooty ticket booth

lol @ getting mad that your car isnt contining to pollute while you dont move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929784)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: Naked Translucent Nibblets Love Of Her Life

It’s annoying as fuck when you hit a red light and it feels like the car died. I had a piece of shit car as a youth that died in traffic several times so maybe it’s low-level PTSD. Perhaps this is why oldmos hate it more, we remember when Cars were Bad and died randomly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929854)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: diverse sooty ticket booth

i am not young but LOL at worrying your car is going to die at a traffic stop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929961)



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Date: May 19th, 2025 9:46 PM
Author: passionate fighting lodge

libs have shit for brains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48945959)



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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: Bipolar hairraiser boistinker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MSv1om_7DgU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929776)