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WSJ: 29.4% of US households are upper middle class

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/21/not-just-the-1-the...
Racy area
  06/22/16
Lol at 100k household income being UMC
Fragrant Chapel Headpube
  06/22/16
Double median household income is UMC.
twinkling property
  06/22/16
lol, so you consider a nurse and a truck driver with 3 kids ...
heady dilemma coffee pot
  06/22/16
If they clear $100,000, yes, that's a great deal of money.
twinkling property
  06/22/16
LOL
heady dilemma coffee pot
  06/22/16
(xo 2016)
useless amber rigor
  06/22/16
lol you stupid fucking poor in a two-income household you...
fishy brethren hall
  06/23/16
dood, the chart says $350k household is top 1% income thresh...
Balding mental disorder
  06/23/16
A high level nurse and owner/operator truck driver can make ...
mentally impaired hell
  06/23/16
"clear 100K". LOL, no.
bipolar hunting ground
  06/23/16
ljl. someone "clearing 100k" in are country is ...
fishy brethren hall
  06/23/16
dumbass thinks this is an article about after tax income. ...
bipolar hunting ground
  06/23/16
either pre- or post-tax it's not enough for an individual to...
fishy brethren hall
  06/23/16
There is a steep cliff of the haves and have nots in this ar...
bipolar hunting ground
  06/23/16
You can't be UMC if you can't even afford to retire at a dec...
Motley house
  06/23/16
forget retirement. at $100k you're basically piling up thous...
fishy brethren hall
  06/23/16
Huh? Only if you're a retard. Which no doubt a lot of people...
Translucent cruise ship
  06/23/16
(faggot making "soup" out of chicken skins and tak...
fishy brethren hall
  06/23/16
lol you seem really angry and in debt
Translucent cruise ship
  06/23/16
lol you seem really poor
fishy brethren hall
  06/23/16
Don't worry things will turn around for you :-)
Translucent cruise ship
  06/23/16
Are you kidding? That's like 6K a month cleared. Not eve...
bipolar hunting ground
  06/23/16
CR. A six-figure salary isn't what it used to be. But yo...
Maize Lascivious Site Prole
  06/23/16
sure, maybe you won't be starving, but $100k would barely be...
fishy brethren hall
  06/23/16
You're estimating a 30 year fixed? Otherwise your $1,400 all...
Erotic Aqua Selfie
  06/23/16
A nurse and truck driver making $100k a year in are country ...
Charismatic hideous pervert pozpig
  06/22/16
This. Outside a few cities, 100K/yr is a shitload of $$$. Th...
know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead
  06/22/16
thats one person making 100K per year, not two people combin...
useless amber rigor
  06/22/16
this subthread literally started with the phrase "100k ...
know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead
  06/22/16
so your mom didn't work? no way you had all that stuff then.
useless amber rigor
  06/22/16
no, sahm because she is heroic
know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead
  06/22/16
TYFT
Maize Lascivious Site Prole
  06/23/16
I'll back you up friend! Your mom staying home is/was worth ...
mentally impaired hell
  06/23/16
ballin out of control on 5 grand post tax a month
Racy area
  06/22/16
what do you faggots spend your money on, only in my and my w...
know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead
  06/22/16
i'm giving you a hard time. guess you can make that work on ...
Racy area
  06/22/16
you know you can take cr vacations in the us
know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead
  06/22/16
lol wtf, my wife and i spend $5k on a single weekend sometim...
fishy brethren hall
  06/23/16
You're spending 250k a year on average? Power to you if y...
Maize Lascivious Site Prole
  06/23/16
lol. the person arguing this must be still in college and ne...
useless amber rigor
  06/22/16
You know that phrase "the whole is greater than the sum...
know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead
  06/22/16
food doesn't double when you have double the people?
useless amber rigor
  06/22/16
food costs certainly don't. jfc have you ever gone grocery ...
Coral Exciting Half-breed Theater
  06/22/16
They probably more than double cuz you gotta take your woman...
Fragrant Chapel Headpube
  06/22/16
Balling? No, they wouldn't. Step 1: Tell me about thei...
Motley house
  06/23/16
I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan. Half of my ...
Fuchsia aromatic lodge
  06/24/16
"I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan."...
Motley house
  06/24/16
http://www.marines.com/being-a-marine/roles-in-the-corps/log...
Fuchsia aromatic lodge
  06/24/16
A specialized Nurse and an Owner/Operator Truck Driver can m...
mentally impaired hell
  06/23/16
in MFH you're poor in Peoria you're a fucking god
trip kink-friendly toaster indian lodge
  06/24/16
It's actually more like 10-12%.
ivory blood rage
  06/22/16
i'm surprised that 30% of households make more than 100k
Racy area
  06/22/16
It's hard NOT to make 100k in a dual income home and most wo...
Fragrant Chapel Headpube
  06/22/16
i've never found satisfying stats on top 10% personal or hou...
Racy area
  06/22/16
It varies so much by area of country
Fragrant Chapel Headpube
  06/22/16
I feel like this is misleading, because a family of four wit...
Coral Exciting Half-breed Theater
  06/22/16
how do you figure? the latter potentially has better benefit...
Chocolate boyish private investor stain
  06/22/16
Stay at home moms are valued at 350k (Slate
Fragrant Chapel Headpube
  06/22/16
The latter almost always has higher costs. Childcare obviou...
Coral Exciting Half-breed Theater
  06/22/16
CR. I know a lot of teacher-teacher couples. Having put in s...
Maize Lascivious Site Prole
  06/23/16
Exactly. Do you know any family that would rather have tw...
Coral Exciting Half-breed Theater
  06/23/16
Echoing others' comments here, it seems almost obvious. ...
Fuchsia aromatic lodge
  06/24/16
Teachers in most areas of the country start our at $20K-30K,...
sickened ladyboy institution
  06/24/16
according to a teacher friend of mine in san antonio, the ci...
know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead
  06/22/16
LOL no.
jet box office keepsake machete
  06/22/16
Awesome, I'm "rich." That must be why I live in a ...
Mind-boggling abode degenerate
  06/22/16
Time to start paying your fair share so we can get mo money ...
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Maize Lascivious Site Prole
  06/23/16
LOL WSJ: no no no dont look at us hedge fund bros and the to...
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stirring clown space
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180 And it's not even so much the 1%--there needs to be m...
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This guy fucking gets it.
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Deranged Topaz Mad-dog Skullcap Friendly Grandma
  06/24/16
That's a pretty broad definition of UMC. I would have tho...
multi-colored national security agency
  06/22/16
I'm at around 200k and I definitely don't feel UMC. I feel l...
Fragrant Chapel Headpube
  06/22/16
i'd say umc is 175k to 250k household income you can have a...
frum macaca
  06/22/16
(dood who makes 175k)
Racy area
  06/23/16
no way. maybe you could say that 200k take home is the lowe...
fishy brethren hall
  06/23/16
yeah, no The official report measuring affluence in the Uni...
frum macaca
  06/23/16
your statistics aren't accurate
Racy area
  06/23/16
it's from answers.com you may be right
frum macaca
  06/23/16
average LAPD pay with benefits is over 100k. they're not the...
Racy area
  06/23/16
most cops don't make anywhere near that, though
frum macaca
  06/23/16
http://whatsmypercent.com
Concupiscible sepia kitty cat
  06/23/16
they must be including children, retired people, prisoners, ...
fishy brethren hall
  06/23/16
maybe, i don't know probably should include everyone, thoug...
frum macaca
  06/23/16
Ummm...percentage-wise...headline is dimbfuck
Magenta electric den
  06/22/16
http://whatsmypercent.com
Concupiscible sepia kitty cat
  06/23/16
ITT: Whites debate whether 200k or 300k is enough to raise a...
Big-titted bossy ape temple
  06/23/16
hehe
out-of-control azure mediation
  06/23/16
"income" is pretty meaningless..its more about pas...
mentally impaired hell
  06/23/16
This. Old guy who owns 5 houses and "earns" $80...
Erotic Aqua Selfie
  06/23/16
"Using Census Bureau data available through 2014, he de...
deep stubborn internal respiration
  06/24/16
God what a shit thread. Retards wildly speculating about co...
sickened ladyboy institution
  06/24/16
Fucking this. People that have no idea there is ample qualit...
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  06/24/16


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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:03 AM
Author: Racy area

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/06/21/not-just-the-1-the-upper-middle-class-is-larger-and-richer-than-ever/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759928)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:07 AM
Author: Fragrant Chapel Headpube

Lol at 100k household income being UMC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759939)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:26 AM
Author: twinkling property

Double median household income is UMC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760070)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:31 AM
Author: heady dilemma coffee pot

lol, so you consider a nurse and a truck driver with 3 kids UMC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760109)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:34 AM
Author: twinkling property

If they clear $100,000, yes, that's a great deal of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760125)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:37 AM
Author: heady dilemma coffee pot

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760137)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:37 AM
Author: useless amber rigor

(xo 2016)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760143)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:35 AM
Author: fishy brethren hall

lol you stupid fucking poor

in a two-income household you'd have to be clearing $100,000 EACH (post-tax, rent, and loan payments) to be UMC. realistically you're looking at a $400k+ combined gross income to be considered upper-middle-class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768816)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:18 AM
Author: Balding mental disorder

dood, the chart says $350k household is top 1% income threshold.

I don't think UMC and the top 1% are the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770024)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:22 AM
Author: mentally impaired hell

A high level nurse and owner/operator truck driver can make well over 400k/yr gross combined

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770046)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:47 AM
Author: bipolar hunting ground

"clear 100K".

LOL, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768867)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:49 AM
Author: fishy brethren hall

ljl.

someone "clearing 100k" in are country is barely scraping by and living off of credit card debt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768880)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:50 AM
Author: bipolar hunting ground

dumbass thinks this is an article about after tax income.

JFC. How far has this site fallen?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768888)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:52 AM
Author: fishy brethren hall

either pre- or post-tax it's not enough for an individual to live off of, let alone consider it "upper middle class"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768900)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:53 AM
Author: bipolar hunting ground

There is a steep cliff of the haves and have nots in this article.

It sound like half this country is now living in abject poverty.

So, the middle class has been squeezed to the point that there is a steep divide between the 50K family and the 100K family.

We're just fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768911)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:53 AM
Author: Motley house

You can't be UMC if you can't even afford to retire at a decent age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768909)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:57 AM
Author: fishy brethren hall

forget retirement. at $100k you're basically piling up thousands in credit card debt every month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768927)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:58 AM
Author: Translucent cruise ship

Huh? Only if you're a retard. Which no doubt a lot of people are, but still...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768933)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:59 AM
Author: fishy brethren hall

(faggot making "soup" out of chicken skins and taking it to work in a thermos for lunch)

sorry shithead, i want to live with a decent standard of living, that doesnt make me retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768939)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:00 AM
Author: Translucent cruise ship

lol you seem really angry and in debt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768943)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:00 AM
Author: fishy brethren hall

lol you seem really poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768945)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:01 AM
Author: Translucent cruise ship

Don't worry things will turn around for you :-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768948)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:00 AM
Author: bipolar hunting ground

Are you kidding? That's like 6K a month cleared. Not everyone lives in NYC or CA.

You should be $1,400 all in on taxes, insurance, mortgage -- on a $300K house.

Public school is free.

WTF? You need a new Hermes scarf every day or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768947)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:02 AM
Author: Maize Lascivious Site Prole

CR.

A six-figure salary isn't what it used to be. But you can live a very decent life on 100k, banking away cash, and not having to sweat life much.

This is assuming non-LA/NY/SF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769659)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:34 AM
Author: fishy brethren hall

sure, maybe you won't be starving, but $100k would barely be lower middle class, even for a single childless person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770140)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 11:13 AM
Author: Erotic Aqua Selfie

You're estimating a 30 year fixed? Otherwise your $1,400 all-in is quite low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770417)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:37 AM
Author: Charismatic hideous pervert pozpig

A nurse and truck driver making $100k a year in are country would be balling out of control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760139)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:44 AM
Author: know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead

This. Outside a few cities, 100K/yr is a shitload of $$$. That's what my dad made about the time my sister was graduating from HS, and my parents were going on vacations and booming like crazy, 3000 sq ft house, 18 acre tract, pretty new cars, etc. Restaurants whenever.

Dad is currently doing all kinds of awesome vacations like fishing in the Canadian wilderness, elk hunting in western US, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760197)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:47 AM
Author: useless amber rigor

thats one person making 100K per year, not two people combined. do you realize you make like 800 per week after taxes when you make 50K? so in this house, the dad brings home 800 per week and the mom brings home 800 per week, then you have to pay for a mortgage plus kids? I would argue such a family is borderline poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760228)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead

this subthread literally started with the phrase "100k household income" and no my mom and dad are two people combined

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760244)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: useless amber rigor

so your mom didn't work? no way you had all that stuff then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760247)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:50 AM
Author: know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead

no, sahm because she is heroic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760249)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:03 AM
Author: Maize Lascivious Site Prole

TYFT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769663)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:29 AM
Author: mentally impaired hell

I'll back you up friend! Your mom staying home is/was worth a fortune..no maid needed or daycare needed and many other high $ expenses saved plus you're a more normal person for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770099)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:49 AM
Author: Racy area

ballin out of control on 5 grand post tax a month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760248)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:51 AM
Author: know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead

what do you faggots spend your money on, only in my and my wife's most profligate months do we spend more than that and it's certainly not because we don't have the $$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760256)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:53 AM
Author: Racy area

i'm giving you a hard time. guess you can make that work on vacations to south america or w/e. but not really on vacations to europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760268)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:54 AM
Author: know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead

you know you can take cr vacations in the us



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760274)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:35 AM
Author: fishy brethren hall

lol wtf, my wife and i spend $5k on a single weekend sometimes. but more commonly it'll be $5k over a week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768821)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:05 AM
Author: Maize Lascivious Site Prole

You're spending 250k a year on average?

Power to you if you can afford that. But that explains why you can't comprehend a family living well on 5k/month post tax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769669)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:53 AM
Author: useless amber rigor

lol. the person arguing this must be still in college and never lived in the real world. lol at an 800 a week per person income being a lot. thats like the minimum to survive. when I first got out of college and was making that much, I couldn't even afford to live on my own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760265)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:56 AM
Author: know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead

You know that phrase "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts"? mortgage and food and shit don't double when you double the people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760292)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:57 AM
Author: useless amber rigor

food doesn't double when you have double the people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760301)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:03 AM
Author: Coral Exciting Half-breed Theater

food costs certainly don't. jfc have you ever gone grocery shopping?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760330)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:33 AM
Author: Fragrant Chapel Headpube

They probably more than double cuz you gotta take your woman out all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760491)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:54 AM
Author: Motley house

Balling?

No, they wouldn't.

Step 1: Tell me about their retirement plan.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768916)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:39 PM
Author: Fuchsia aromatic lodge

I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan. Half of my salary* for life.

*salary for retirement purposes is the average of the highest-earning three years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786387)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:48 PM
Author: Motley house

"I'm 25% of the way to vesting in a pension plan."

Yes, some people win the lottery.

Now let's get back to those nurses and truck drivers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786448)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:53 PM
Author: Fuchsia aromatic lodge

http://www.marines.com/being-a-marine/roles-in-the-corps/logistics-combat-element/motor-transport

http://explorehealthcareers.org/en/Career/80/Nurse_Anesthetist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786476)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:20 AM
Author: mentally impaired hell

A specialized Nurse and an Owner/Operator Truck Driver can make YUGE $

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770035)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:17 PM
Author: trip kink-friendly toaster indian lodge

in MFH you're poor

in Peoria you're a fucking god

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782298)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:09 AM
Author: ivory blood rage

It's actually more like 10-12%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759958)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:11 AM
Author: Racy area

i'm surprised that 30% of households make more than 100k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759972)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:13 AM
Author: Fragrant Chapel Headpube

It's hard NOT to make 100k in a dual income home and most women work now. Lol at calling a teacher couple making 120k combined UMC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759982)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:15 AM
Author: Racy area

i've never found satisfying stats on top 10% personal or household income. i don't think it's all that high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30759996)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:16 AM
Author: Fragrant Chapel Headpube

It varies so much by area of country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760001)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:21 AM
Author: Coral Exciting Half-breed Theater

I feel like this is misleading, because a family of four with one parent making $120k is richer than one with two parents each making $60k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760030)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:24 AM
Author: Chocolate boyish private investor stain

how do you figure? the latter potentially has better benefits, and taxes would be similar. not to mention the level of stability is higher when you have two people making 60k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760054)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:26 AM
Author: Fragrant Chapel Headpube

Stay at home moms are valued at 350k (Slate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760067)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:33 AM
Author: Coral Exciting Half-breed Theater

The latter almost always has higher costs. Childcare obviously, but also they end up paying a lot more for conveniences.

There's also value to having a parent spend more time with the kids.

Finally, you have two parents each putting in full work weeks for $120k in the latter case, whereas in the former, you have a lot of excess capacity on the part of one spouse to get other things done, and if the non-working spouse decides to work, you will have even higher income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760122)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:08 AM
Author: Maize Lascivious Site Prole

CR. I know a lot of teacher-teacher couples. Having put in some years with their respective school districts, their combined income is probably approaching 100k, but they're poor as F. Mainly because they have the childcare haircut.

Additionally, their lives kinda suck because they spend about 1 quality hour a day together as a family.

Totally different situation if you have a breadwinner and a caregiver, where the breadwinner makes 100k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769678)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:02 AM
Author: Coral Exciting Half-breed Theater

Exactly.

Do you know any family that would rather have two working parents each making $200k, as opposed to one working parent making $400k? I sure don't. Division of labor, baby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769938)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:52 PM
Author: Fuchsia aromatic lodge

Echoing others' comments here, it seems almost obvious.

For one thing, strongly disagree that the latter has better benefits. Benefits packages typically include families, and a position paying $120k/yr is more than twice as likely to provide generous benefits than a position paying $60k/yr.

Stability might be higher if someone loses their job. But if someone loses their job, then we're no longer comparing $120k to $120k. We're comparing $40k to $80k (assuming an unemployment payment of 1/3 pay).

The value of housework and logistics is not negligible. Daycare, meal prep, cleaning, etc. all have significant monetary value. Maid service averages $157 nationally. Do that once per week and you're talking about $8,000 a year. Childcare averages $11,666 per year in the U.S. That's already a $20,000 tax-free advantage of $120k over $60k+$60k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786467)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:03 PM
Author: sickened ladyboy institution

Teachers in most areas of the country start our at $20K-30K, not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782220)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:46 AM
Author: know-it-all idiotic heaven circlehead

according to a teacher friend of mine in san antonio, the city just voted to make STARTING SALARY for a public school teacher there something like 52K/yr

base starting salary in dallas is 50K/yr https://thehub.dallasisd.org/2015/04/20/salary-range-for-dallas-isd-teachers-increases-to-50000-90000/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760215)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:17 AM
Author: jet box office keepsake machete

LOL no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760002)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:18 AM
Author: Mind-boggling abode degenerate

Awesome, I'm "rich." That must be why I live in a 400 square foot apartment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760008)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:26 AM
Author: flickering pit telephone

Time to start paying your fair share so we can get mo money for dem programs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760075)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:08 AM
Author: Maize Lascivious Site Prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769680)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:19 AM
Author: Magical Learning Disabled Theater Stage Coldplay Fan

LOL WSJ: no no no dont look at us hedge fund bros and the top 1% of MFH and the few billionaires owning more than like 30% of the USA or whatever, you REALLY need to look at those damn teacher/plumber families that scrape together 100K, fuck them, UMC v middle class is the REAL WAR!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760016)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:20 AM
Author: turquoise nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760024)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:32 AM
Author: irradiated location tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760117)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:18 AM
Author: Translucent cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768743)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:20 AM
Author: Tan Spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768755)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:57 AM
Author: Motley house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768930)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:08 AM
Author: stirring clown space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769679)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:10 AM
Author: Maize Lascivious Site Prole

180

And it's not even so much the 1%--there needs to be more emphasis on the .1%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769682)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:12 AM
Author: Big-titted bossy ape temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769696)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:22 AM
Author: Ruby thirsty jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769742)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:48 AM
Author: Comical House-broken Sweet Tailpipe Kitchen

Correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30781718)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:49 AM
Author: jet box office keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30781722)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 12:53 PM
Author: Aggressive Massive Milk Point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782138)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 12:53 PM
Author: Spectacular Impertinent Nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782141)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:05 PM
Author: arousing death wish station

This guy fucking gets it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782230)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: Deranged Topaz Mad-dog Skullcap Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782264)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:24 AM
Author: multi-colored national security agency

That's a pretty broad definition of UMC.

I would have thought it was more like $200k household income minimum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760053)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:27 AM
Author: Fragrant Chapel Headpube

I'm at around 200k and I definitely don't feel UMC. I feel like UMC is more 300-350k beginning range....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760083)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 1:31 AM
Author: frum macaca

i'd say umc is 175k to 250k household income

you can have a family, take vacations, save for retirement, and not worry about the cost of any staples

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760478)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:11 AM
Author: Racy area

(dood who makes 175k)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768711)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:33 AM
Author: fishy brethren hall

no way. maybe you could say that 200k take home is the lowest rung of UMC (so you're clearing ~400k gross before taxes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768810)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:45 AM
Author: frum macaca

yeah, no

The official report measuring affluence in the United States states that appox. 1% of individuals in the country make $100,000 a year before taxes. .05% make $250,000 or more and .01% make $400,000 or more before taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768864)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:48 AM
Author: Racy area

your statistics aren't accurate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768872)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:49 AM
Author: frum macaca

it's from answers.com

you may be right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768885)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:51 AM
Author: Racy area

average LAPD pay with benefits is over 100k. they're not the 1%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768897)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 2:14 AM
Author: frum macaca

most cops don't make anywhere near that, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768993)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:11 AM
Author: Concupiscible sepia kitty cat

http://whatsmypercent.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769688)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:48 AM
Author: fishy brethren hall

they must be including children, retired people, prisoners, and the mentally defective in those figures

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768874)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 1:51 AM
Author: frum macaca

maybe, i don't know

probably should include everyone, though, don't you think? i guess it depends if the op included them or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30768898)



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Date: June 22nd, 2016 12:28 AM
Author: Magenta electric den

Ummm...percentage-wise...headline is dimbfuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30760093)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:12 AM
Author: Concupiscible sepia kitty cat

http://whatsmypercent.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769694)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 9:12 AM
Author: Big-titted bossy ape temple

ITT: Whites debate whether 200k or 300k is enough to raise a family while Latino raise three kids on 50k combined income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769695)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:00 AM
Author: out-of-control azure mediation

hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30769928)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 10:38 AM
Author: mentally impaired hell

"income" is pretty meaningless..its more about passive income stream and net worth..not what you make at some jew fraud $cam job/career

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770160)



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Date: June 23rd, 2016 11:18 AM
Author: Erotic Aqua Selfie

This.

Old guy who owns 5 houses and "earns" $80k a year is worth a lot more than the biglaw senior associate with $300k income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30770447)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: deep stubborn internal respiration

"Using Census Bureau data available through 2014, he defines the upper middle class as any household earning $100,000 to $350,000 for a family of three: at least double the U.S. median household income and about five times the poverty level."

Depending on COL, this sounds about right. $100k is downright poverty-line in NYC for a household (though not necessarily for your average singleton living with roommates in Murray Hill), but a family in Kansas City could do well off of that.

I actually think a lot of these people in the $100k-$350k range are in a precarious spot and I don't necessarily agree with the WSJ's conclusion that it's the UMC folks vs. everyone else. There are more UMC-paying jobs, but shit costs more and certain cities are getting much more expensive (and those are the cities with the highest growth rate in UMC jobs, likely).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782258)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 1:12 PM
Author: sickened ladyboy institution

God what a shit thread. Retards wildly speculating about cost of living differences they don't understand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30782265)



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Date: June 24th, 2016 11:57 PM
Author: Charismatic hideous pervert pozpig

Fucking this. People that have no idea there is ample quality housing available for <$200k in a significant portion of the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3262394&forum_id=2#30786517)