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Unbelievable how unproductive, time wasting and mindless most F500 employees are

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Heady fanboi range
  04/29/25
why doesn't capitalism weed them out?
Trip scarlet pit
  04/29/25
I really don't know. It's a great question. Maybe markets ...
Heady fanboi range
  04/29/25
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Gay Disrespectful Shrine
  04/29/25
Actual capitalism would weed them out. The mutant freak neol...
Magenta kitty cat
  04/29/25
Actual capitalism has never been tried!
Canary site kitty
  04/29/25
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wild marvelous sweet tailpipe school
  04/29/25
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Stimulating Church
  04/29/25
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drunken stead
  04/29/25
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fear-inspiring principal's office
  04/30/25
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Seedy Crackhouse Mad Cow Disease
  04/29/25
large financialized, publicly traded corps should be thought...
Flatulent dull water buffalo
  04/29/25
This is an interesting theory.
Heady fanboi range
  04/29/25
cr the "Bullshit Jobs" book covers this aspect a l...
Rusted Brunch Gay Wizard
  04/29/25
That’s actually a rubbish book. I’ve covered thi...
Mahogany garrison
  04/29/25
why haven't any conservatives shredded these companies for w...
Trip scarlet pit
  04/29/25
Most of it is him talking about the Nolan Batman movies and ...
Seedy Crackhouse Mad Cow Disease
  04/29/25
He spends a lot of time praising Women and attacking the dum...
Mahogany garrison
  04/29/25
I think I already talked about him being a jew in my poast i...
Seedy Crackhouse Mad Cow Disease
  04/29/25
cr that book sucks and that guy was a Short jewish shitlib ...
Flatulent dull water buffalo
  04/29/25
the output of the lower retainers isn't valueless. as the co...
Flickering copper hall shitlib
  04/29/25
yeah. also, the lower someone is in the retainer pyramid, th...
Flatulent dull water buffalo
  04/30/25
Right the actual service most companies provide is very basi...
Flickering copper hall shitlib
  04/30/25
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Flatulent dull water buffalo
  10/29/25
i really like it here
Offensive jet rehab
  04/29/25
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Heady fanboi range
  04/29/25
not really. you just deal with lawyers
Arousing useless brakes
  04/29/25
He’s perfectly describing Fake Jobs. Like 60% of F500 ...
Mahogany garrison
  04/29/25
He knows this he just feels threatened.
Heady fanboi range
  04/29/25
With the amount of RIFs last 3 years, I think most truly unp...
Arousing useless brakes
  04/29/25
This is an insanely retarded POV. Large public companies ar...
Heady fanboi range
  04/29/25
please do tell me about these jobs
Arousing useless brakes
  04/29/25
I don't know what you would like me to say. I interact with...
Heady fanboi range
  04/29/25
So no examples?
Arousing useless brakes
  04/29/25
Would you like me to start identifying individual employees ...
Heady fanboi range
  04/29/25
job titles would suffice (open hiring positions?).
Arousing useless brakes
  04/29/25
Okay let me pull a couple org. charts and some memos with th...
Heady fanboi range
  04/29/25
tyia
Arousing useless brakes
  04/29/25
agreed for most fortune 500's but not for the big banks.
Underhanded stock car kitchen
  04/29/25
Check whatever company you’re thinking about and the n...
Mahogany garrison
  04/29/25
lmfao
aqua pistol state
  10/29/25
I have an F100, an F500, and a startup job. Of all of them, ...
Mind-boggling pale stag film
  04/29/25
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Heady fanboi range
  04/29/25
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Seedy Crackhouse Mad Cow Disease
  04/30/25
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Avocado Boiling Water
  04/29/25
nonstop "alignment" meetings where everyone wants ...
gaped corner main people
  04/29/25
Only in liberal arts jobs
Mahogany garrison
  04/29/25
my company has all these fucking retarded meetings about vol...
Underhanded stock car kitchen
  04/29/25
TCR
Saffron big-titted mother
  04/30/25
Alignment is my current most hated buzzword
fear-inspiring principal's office
  04/30/25
heard it used here more in a month than in a lifetime of emp...
gaped corner main people
  04/30/25
Are you an Engineer
Mahogany garrison
  04/30/25
no but work heavily with them. even they outsource the bulk ...
gaped corner main people
  04/30/25
WFH’s greatest gift is that I can just skip these meet...
aromatic blue old irish cottage legal warrant
  04/30/25
You’re gonna be terminated by an AI for misalignment
fear-inspiring principal's office
  04/30/25
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aqua pistol state
  10/29/25


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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:53 AM
Author: Heady fanboi range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890439)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:54 AM
Author: Trip scarlet pit

why doesn't capitalism weed them out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890443)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: Heady fanboi range

I really don't know. It's a great question. Maybe markets aren't as hyper-competitive as we like to pretend they are. It's a big open secret that anyone who observes these companies becomes privy to the more closely you interact with them (but there's no incentive to change the status quo because the supermajority of people within the company benefit from it, like a gentlemen's agreement that everyone just half-asses things). The average management-layer employee has a calendar full of meetings they don't contribute to but nevertheless sit in on (so they appear "busy"), 4 weeks of paid vacation that they assuredly take to the last minute, a couple weeks of fake sick time they finagle in, and they work a real 10 hours max per week putting together charts and "ideating." Projects take forever to complete; everything is constantly delayed; there are significant inaccuracies and mistakes that get glossed over by higher layers of management and leadership; there's no sense of urgency in anything unless it is externally imposed on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890453)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:36 PM
Author: Gay Disrespectful Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891413)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: Magenta kitty cat

Actual capitalism would weed them out. The mutant freak neoliberal GC clown show we have rewards them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890701)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Canary site kitty

Actual capitalism has never been tried!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890830)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: wild marvelous sweet tailpipe school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890856)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: Stimulating Church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891355)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: drunken stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891815)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: fear-inspiring principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48893574)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:55 AM
Author: Seedy Crackhouse Mad Cow Disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890449)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 12:08 PM
Author: Flatulent dull water buffalo

large financialized, publicly traded corps should be thought of as fiefdoms made up of layers of retainers

everyone in every layer has retainers below them who serve them, all the way up to the very top. people are permitted to continue to exist within the organization to the extent that the usefulness that they provide as a retainer to others outweighs any friction or problems that they pose to others

retainers in medieval times didn't do anything most of the time, either. they just existed as parasites on the productive system around them until their lord called on them to do something, just like corporate employees with their boss(es)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890485)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: Heady fanboi range

This is an interesting theory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890685)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: Rusted Brunch Gay Wizard

cr the "Bullshit Jobs" book covers this aspect a little. larger headcount = more important = more power. it also gives individual managers or teams the room to cut headcount later as a tool to look like they're "doing something" in a time of crisis. summary: it's all fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890740)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Mahogany garrison

That’s actually a rubbish book. I’ve covered this iirc. He doesn’t do a very good job of delving into the BS and it’s kind of hard to do so when you’re a shitlib tbh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890801)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: Trip scarlet pit

why haven't any conservatives shredded these companies for wasting shareholder money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890806)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: Seedy Crackhouse Mad Cow Disease

Most of it is him talking about the Nolan Batman movies and also being a jew iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890808)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Mahogany garrison

He spends a lot of time praising Women and attacking the dumb things the military does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890839)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:27 PM
Author: Seedy Crackhouse Mad Cow Disease

I think I already talked about him being a jew in my poast imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891395)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Flatulent dull water buffalo

cr that book sucks and that guy was a Short jewish shitlib

i can't remember if he actually addressed what i described above but i stand by it as cr. anyone who has worked in these orgs can attest to this being how those orgs work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890870)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:06 PM
Author: Flickering copper hall shitlib

the output of the lower retainers isn't valueless. as the company grows the workforce specializes and becomes formalized. each activity of the company is spread over more and more people, so it becomes commoditized. the roles aren't useless, they are just increasingly simple.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891334)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:17 AM
Author: Flatulent dull water buffalo

yeah. also, the lower someone is in the retainer pyramid, the more work they're actually doing (typically)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48893093)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Flickering copper hall shitlib

Right the actual service most companies provide is very basic and can be performed in a totally rote way. Companies get complex as external relationships and organizational demands increase, hence most people push paper over email.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48893112)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:43 PM
Author: Flatulent dull water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#49385726)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Offensive jet rehab

i really like it here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890817)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Heady fanboi range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890849)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Arousing useless brakes

not really. you just deal with lawyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890835)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Mahogany garrison

He’s perfectly describing Fake Jobs. Like 60% of F500 adult male employees with desks/computers have Engineering Deliverables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890843)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Heady fanboi range

He knows this he just feels threatened.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890847)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Arousing useless brakes

With the amount of RIFs last 3 years, I think most truly unproductive jobs are gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890852)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: Heady fanboi range

This is an insanely retarded POV. Large public companies are full of these positions still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890857)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: Arousing useless brakes

please do tell me about these jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890865)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Heady fanboi range

I don't know what you would like me to say. I interact with and see this in management layers (especially) at F500 companies every day. The standards and tolerance for shirking / slacking / bullshit / half-assery / not giving a shit are still phenomenally high even after any sort of RIFs that have occurred. As I said above I think part of it is just tacit coordination/collusion--it benefits most people most of the time to keep things like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890879)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:57 PM
Author: Arousing useless brakes

So no examples?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891307)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: Heady fanboi range

Would you like me to start identifying individual employees at Raytheon?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891313)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: Arousing useless brakes

job titles would suffice (open hiring positions?).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891318)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: Heady fanboi range

Okay let me pull a couple org. charts and some memos with their info just standby for a while hoss thank you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891320)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:04 PM
Author: Arousing useless brakes

tyia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891329)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: Underhanded stock car kitchen

agreed for most fortune 500's but not for the big banks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891716)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Mahogany garrison

Check whatever company you’re thinking about and the number of employees in 2019 vs 2025. The only layoffs I can think of were in bloated af tech Firms and western game developers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890891)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: aqua pistol state

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#49385716)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Mind-boggling pale stag film

I have an F100, an F500, and a startup job. Of all of them, F100 is the least efficient and pays the most.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48890848)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:50 PM
Author: Heady fanboi range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891284)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Seedy Crackhouse Mad Cow Disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48893104)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: Avocado Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891316)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: gaped corner main people

nonstop "alignment" meetings where everyone wants to get involved but do nothing. it's pretty amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891816)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 10:11 PM
Author: Mahogany garrison

Only in liberal arts jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891947)



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Date: April 29th, 2025 10:17 PM
Author: Underhanded stock car kitchen

my company has all these fucking retarded meetings about volunteering/discussing the strategy with people who are irrelevant to the "strategy" and inclusion meetings where we all just bullshit about our "concerns" which usually amount to "but why do I have to come into the office 3 times a week muh kids dentist appointment??"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48891970)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 7:02 AM
Author: Saffron big-titted mother

TCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48892699)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 7:08 AM
Author: fear-inspiring principal's office

Alignment is my current most hated buzzword

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48892700)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: gaped corner main people

heard it used here more in a month than in a lifetime of employment elsewhere. we even joke that it takes 5 months to align to do 5 weeks of work. what's amazing is that even if you align with a ton of people, some random person will still be pissed off that he wasn't in the loop, even though he's completely irrelevant. then there are people who make whole careers doing 100 lines of RACI, thinking this shit was even remotely useful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48893790)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: Mahogany garrison

Are you an Engineer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48893966)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: gaped corner main people

no but work heavily with them. even they outsource the bulk to contractors & vendors, chiming in to "align" on shit. fucking LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48894017)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: aromatic blue old irish cottage legal warrant

WFH’s greatest gift is that I can just skip these meetings entirely now and no one notices

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48893265)



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Date: April 30th, 2025 12:28 PM
Author: fear-inspiring principal's office

You’re gonna be terminated by an AI for misalignment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#48893579)



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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: aqua pistol state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2#49385711)