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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Misunderstood Hairraiser Corner
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
onyx therapy
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Ivory pea-brained hell legal warrant
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
onyx therapy
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Ivory pea-brained hell legal warrant
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Galvanic rambunctious corn cake
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
puce flirting range
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
onyx therapy
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Razzmatazz Yarmulke
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Buff Station
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Stirring flesh sweet tailpipe chapel
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
onyx therapy
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Stirring flesh sweet tailpipe chapel
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Stirring flesh sweet tailpipe chapel
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
onyx therapy
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
kink-friendly electric halford party of the first part
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
onyx therapy
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
onyx therapy
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
onyx therapy
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Henna Toilet Seat Goyim
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Pearly french chef personal credit line
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Razzmatazz Yarmulke
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
onyx therapy
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Misunderstood Hairraiser Corner
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
onyx therapy
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Maize exciting antidepressant drug dilemma
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
stimulating cuckold
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
cerebral purple pit
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Misunderstood Hairraiser Corner
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Vivacious Coldplay Fan Church Building
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
onyx therapy
  06/26/25
...
Wild theater tank
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Jet-lagged cuckoldry
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Provocative ruddy theater stage fortuitous meteor
  06/26/25
...
silver dopamine
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
bisexual sanctuary
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
bearded cobalt location mother
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
coiffed son of senegal
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
onyx therapy
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
bearded cobalt location mother
  06/27/25
How was penn?
onyx therapy
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Razzmatazz Yarmulke
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Buff Station
  06/27/25
...
onyx therapy
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Gold Comical Weed Whacker Electric Furnace
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
bearded cobalt location mother
  06/27/25
...
fiercely-loyal meetinghouse
  06/27/25
...
onyx therapy
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
coiffed son of senegal
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Buff Station
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Cowardly spot lettuce
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Razzmatazz Yarmulke
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Jet-lagged cuckoldry
  06/27/25
...
lascivious digit ratio doctorate
  06/27/25
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Razzmatazz Yarmulke
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Misunderstood Hairraiser Corner

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: onyx therapy

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Ivory pea-brained hell legal warrant

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: onyx therapy

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Ivory pea-brained hell legal warrant

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Galvanic rambunctious corn cake

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: puce flirting range

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: onyx therapy

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Yarmulke

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Buff Station

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Stirring flesh sweet tailpipe chapel

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: onyx therapy

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Stirring flesh sweet tailpipe chapel

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Stirring flesh sweet tailpipe chapel

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: onyx therapy

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: kink-friendly electric halford party of the first part

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: onyx therapy

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: onyx therapy

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: onyx therapy

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Henna Toilet Seat Goyim

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Pearly french chef personal credit line

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Yarmulke

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: onyx therapy

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Misunderstood Hairraiser Corner

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: onyx therapy

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Maize exciting antidepressant drug dilemma

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: stimulating cuckold

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: cerebral purple pit

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Misunderstood Hairraiser Corner

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Vivacious Coldplay Fan Church Building

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: onyx therapy

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Wild theater tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Jet-lagged cuckoldry

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Provocative ruddy theater stage fortuitous meteor

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: silver dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: bisexual sanctuary

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: bearded cobalt location mother

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: coiffed son of senegal

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: onyx therapy

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: bearded cobalt location mother

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: onyx therapy

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Yarmulke

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Buff Station

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: onyx therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Gold Comical Weed Whacker Electric Furnace

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: bearded cobalt location mother

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: onyx therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: coiffed son of senegal

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Buff Station

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Cowardly spot lettuce

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Yarmulke

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Jet-lagged cuckoldry

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: lascivious digit ratio doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)