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Can I quit my journal 3L year?
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Date: March 6th, 2010 10:20 PM Author: lavender histrionic chapel Have BIGPRESTIGIOUSLAWFIRM job lined up. Was on journal 1L and 2L. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14317807) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 10:56 PM Author: Spectacular Range is it lrev?
nothing else matters |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 10:57 PM Author: Underhanded Flatulent Parlor why quit? you dont have to do anything anyway in your 3L year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14318075) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 6:06 PM Author: Pale Jet-lagged Nursing Home titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324404) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 8:41 AM Author: big burgundy lodge I cam here to same the same thing -- there is considerably less work 3l year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14330626) |
Date: March 6th, 2010 10:55 PM Author: Slate exciting house party of the first part no, it will raise red flags, last thing you want to do ITE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14318062) |
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Date: March 6th, 2010 10:57 PM Author: green stage fanboi how does one join lr as a 1L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14318076) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:00 AM Author: drab pisswyrm second the question. though, i know at my ccn, there is a journal you can join as a 1L in the fall (just not law review, obvi). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14319014) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:53 PM Author: titillating sound barrier he just said journal. and yeah, we have a journal here too that you can join 1L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14322893) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:42 AM Author: fiercely-loyal resort GET OFF MY JOURNAL U SLACKER BITCH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14319335) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:42 PM Author: lavender histrionic chapel my school lets you join journals your first year. it is not lr. thoughts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14322803) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:44 PM Author: Insecure laughsome kitchen circlehead could be good to get some BB practice, if you plan to go out for journal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14322813) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:54 PM Author: titillating sound barrier a lot of journals will contact your employer. you don't want this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14322907) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 4:01 PM Author: dead khaki principal's office Wow. You guys must have vindictive peers. People come and go all the time at the journals here, and it doesn't bother anyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14323007) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 5:41 PM Author: Pale Jet-lagged Nursing Home yeah, people come and go all the time at secondary journals here at my school... it's usually not an issue and most of your peers won't care. It is, however, an issue if you ran for and got some executive board position that you'd be abandoning, or if you specifically gave a multi-year commitment when you were trying to get on, or if you especially milked the journal to get your job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324217) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:49 PM Author: tan yapping immigrant jewess uh defamation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325470) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:03 PM Author: fiercely-loyal resort You don't strike me as an expert on defamation law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325638) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:03 PM Author: titillating sound barrier they'd be telling the truth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325643) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 9:19 PM Author: Odious free-loading bbw Not a per se defense in Massachusetts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14326596) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:13 PM Author: titillating sound barrier really?
this http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/massachusetts-defamation-law says that it has to be a false statement |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 5:14 PM Author: Odious free-loading bbw Really,
http://firemark.com/2009/02/16/alarming-defamation-ruling-truth-is-not-always-a-defense/ |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 3:59 PM Author: Twisted nibblets this would be such a bitch thing to do. you were hired in part because of the experience of being on journal, and the journal has to be put together and published so that people can continue to reap these benefits. sticking other people with all the work is not the right thing to do when you have derived some benefit from the journal. don't be a dick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14322980) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 5:34 PM Author: Pale Jet-lagged Nursing Home there is some merit to this post, although it is perhaps a little over the top. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324128) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 5:47 PM Author: cobalt pit windowlicker What benefits? Outside LR, the only benefit is a resume line that no one cares about. Students not on LR would be served just as well if the journal never published (not as if employers would have any clue) and they never were required to do any work on it. It is not as if journal work is worthwhile anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324276) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 6:07 PM Author: Pale Jet-lagged Nursing Home you overstate your case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324420) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:39 PM Author: Abnormal Center Only slightly. Secondary journals do not compete on prestige. They simply signal some base level of work ethic/competence. The most efficient secondary journal, from a student's perspective, would be one that publishes only frequently enough to avoid losing all credibility as a journal and only accepts articles that are exceptionally easy to cite check/edit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325335) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:50 PM Author: cobalt pit windowlicker Except that almost all employers have no idea if the journal publishes anyway, so its moot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325482) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:08 PM Author: Abnormal Center Right, but presumably you want to joint a journal that is treated as such by your school. Needless to say, a journal that doesn't publish isn't going to get funded or appear on your school's website. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325700) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:14 PM Author: fiercely-loyal resort People forget that there is more to preparing yourself for professional success than simply appearing as though you have marketable skills. It helps to actually develop them.
What happens when you start at your firm and now you're trying to distinguish yourself from the other dozen people who are starting with you? Hint: your resume won't help. Being a technically competent and efficient editor of legal writing sounds like a good start. As does experience working with teams of people around hard deadlines to produce a final written product.
There is more to journal work, even secondary journal work, than a resume line. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 9:20 PM Author: Odious free-loading bbw 132 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14326618) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:13 PM Author: cobalt pit windowlicker lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14327996) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 6:18 PM Author: lavender histrionic chapel link to "you were hired in part because of the experience of being on journal"?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14324499) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:40 PM Author: Twisted nibblets i guarantee that i would not have gotten my job if it weren't for journal. pretty much zero chance. i think it is universally acknowledged that employers value this, at least the flagship law review, as a resume line/experience. this is probably more true of litigators; not sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325345) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:51 PM Author: tan yapping immigrant jewess "at least the flagship law review"
that little qualification completely defeats the purpose of your post. no one's debating that fact. the issue here is what value secondary journals add to the resume. the answer is little or none. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:01 PM Author: Twisted nibblets op doesn't say whether it is law review or a secondary journal. in either case, it is a dick move to join an organization, taking a spot someone else could have taken, and then to quit, leaving others to do your work. also, why join if you don't think you are going to derive some benefit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325607) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:55 PM Author: lavender histrionic chapel op here....
i say above that it is not LR
i did not take anyone's spot by joining. unlimited number of doods can join.
DOES THIS AFFECT YOUR ANALYSIS? |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 6:32 PM Author: low-t carmine pervert sanctuary Law review is a bizarre creature.
First, law students don't know shit about picking good articles from the field.
Second, as a sorting mechanism, it's redundant. Grades tell you just about everything you need to know. If you want a measure of writing ability, just make the writing class graded. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:24 PM Author: Pale Jet-lagged Nursing Home It's only redundant as a sorting mechanism if you think it is a signal of intelligence. People can get good grades by being lucky, or by being smart but lazy. LR membership is generally useful as a signal of ambition/drive/motivation/work ethic as well as the ability to spend long hours doing tedious work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325119) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:29 PM Author: Dark Boltzmann School Cafeteria LR membership might be, but secondary isn't. pro tip at joining a secondary: look at how many articles it publishes and make sure it has a lot of members.
i joined a secondary that publishes one, maybe two articles a year. we do jack shit. it's awesome. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:30 PM Author: low-t carmine pervert sanctuary "LR membership is generally useful as a signal of ambition/drive/motivation/work ethic as well as the ability to spend long hours doing tedious work."
Do you really believe that? |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 7:52 PM Author: cobalt pit windowlicker It is delusion. If you grade onto LR, you don't luck into it. Very few ppl that actually grade onto LR, are super smart and dont study. Most are smart and work hard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14325503) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:24 PM Author: Pale Jet-lagged Nursing Home I know many people who could have gotten onto LR, but are not for many reasons. I can understand employers wanting to filter based on those reasons.
I also think that people actually on LR will, by the time they graduate, have more experience coping with extra burdens and tedious work than they otherwise would have. And that's also something employers may want to use as a filter. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 8:07 PM Author: fiercely-loyal resort This is not a hard question. Did you ever promise the journal you would stay on your 3L year? Did you ever tell your employer or strongly imply that you would stay on your 3L year?
Yes = keep your word
No = quit if you don't want to be on the journal any more. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:13 PM Author: cobalt pit windowlicker Efficient breach baby (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14328002) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:24 PM Author: fiercely-loyal resort Good luck with that in the real world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243310&forum_id=2#14328099) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:30 AM Author: Trip Sinister Deer Antler Theater Stage Here is your answer:
Go to a law firm you'd like to work at and check the profiles of associates and young partners. See what % has only "member of ___ LR" and what % has "____ editor of ____ LR." I'd bet you'll find a lot more of the former than the latter. |