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Date: August 12th, 2010 11:59 PM Author: White tank Ok, got my general answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776573) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:04 AM Author: razzle cuck 147. $50k, and crappy exit options. So you barely work - congrats I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776605) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:08 AM Author: White tank Pretty much the downside and the upside there. Also, the sweet location should be emphasized, though I'm not giving that away. Exit options aren't so crappy, though. I can work for pretty much any firm in the area when I'm done this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776635) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:10 AM Author: razzle cuck Eh, I know too many ex-clerks with that background who couldn't get shit after their clerkships. Look, a job is only as awesome as what comes from it. I find it pretty unlikely that anything awesome will come of this. But the job is easy so it isn't a 125-130. But that is some terrible money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776650) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:12 AM Author: White tank Money does suck, for sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776664) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:12 AM Author: razzle cuck This is kind of the point of working. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776670) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:13 AM Author: White tank O RLY?
Tell that to YLS kids who turn down BIGLAW to work in rural Mississippi helping farmers. |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:15 AM Author: razzle cuck He's what I call a dumb smart guy.
Either that or someone with a huge trust fund whose parents are making them do something for a few years before they can cash out. |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:17 AM Author: White tank Nah. Money isn't everything, man. I'm not saying I wouldn't be in BIGLAW if I could... but I also wouldn't be in BIGLAW if I didn't have BIGDEBT. If I had no debt, I'd keep this job until I got bored/unhappy. My fellow clerk has been here for about 8 years because of how sweet of a deal it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776728) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:20 AM Author: razzle cuck Eh, that's something that is reasonable to say if the difference is between $140k and $180k. But $50k is pretty terrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776747) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:21 AM Author: White tank $50k is pretty terrible, but I still stand by what I said. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776758) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:23 AM Author: razzle cuck I guess we must have different priorities. I would be pretty depressed if I ended up making $50k even if I didn't work much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776769) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:25 AM Author: White tank I would have been depressed, except that the other option was joblessness (and I applied to a ton of non-law jobs). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776786) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:26 AM Author: razzle cuck Yeah, sorry, didn't mean to rag on you. It is a fine job for ITE and if the choice is that or unemployment then it is a no-brainer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776792) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:27 AM Author: White tank No worries, mang. I asked to be rated on it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776797) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:11 AM Author: Heady grizzly stage legal warrant why would location even matter when you make 50k? bartenders make more than that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776656) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:12 AM Author: razzle cuck Law school was basically a waste given that. He would have been better off as a truck driver or a cop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776663) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:13 AM Author: White tank Oh, I know law school was a complete waste. Especially since I went to a T14 (luckily, I had a pretty big scholly). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776675) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:16 AM Author: razzle cuck Yeah, I'm certainly in no position to call you out on this anyway. I estimate that I have a 50/50 shot of being in law at the end of the year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776719) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:19 AM Author: White tank You might get lucky. I didn't have a law job upon graduation, but got this right after I took the bar. Things happen and ITE makes you re-evaluate what's really important.
It's sort of a "grass is always greener on the other side" thing. My friends in BIGLAW are jealous of my life and I'm jealous of their pay. |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:22 AM Author: razzle cuck To be honest, I need actual cash so I'm not even looking at these kind of jobs. I would make more money in a variety of non-legal areas that I have a good background for, so I would rather just leave law entirely if possible. Other than that, I would at least want a job that could lead to something good even if short term pay kind of sucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776763) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:25 AM Author: White tank Yeah. I'm hopefully going to luck out with this local firm making about ~$80k starting. Not what I expected, but still hoping for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776784) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:25 AM Author: razzle cuck Yeah, when I say I want something that leads to something better I am looking more to $120k+ stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776787) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:28 AM Author: White tank Believe me, so am I. Was so close to BIGLAW. So fucking close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776800) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:31 AM Author: razzle cuck I was there bro and it was glorious. Now look at me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776830) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:36 AM Author: White tank Good luck, broseph. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776858) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:57 AM Author: razzle cuck You too man. Surely ITE can't last forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15777005) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 10:16 AM Author: Histrionic disgusting business firm boistinker "To be honest, I need actual cash so I'm not even looking at these kind of jobs."
LOL Fish, tell us again about the nuevo riche lifestyle you aspire to, complete with multiple properties throughout the world and fancy dining all the time, but temper it with your sense of realism in that you *probably* won't ever have a billion dollar fortune. |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 2:42 PM Author: purple cruise ship Please do, Fish. What is Mandy doing these days? I will check back later, I would love an update, but I am buried in work today. :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15780795) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 4:18 PM Author: razzle cuck Have sex with any more guys not your bf lately? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15781500) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 4:16 PM Author: razzle cuck LOL @ you people still being pissed because I dreamed of a good life pre-ITE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15781484) |
Date: August 13th, 2010 12:17 AM Author: Swashbuckling thirsty sanctuary legend 164
ITE = 166 |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:18 AM Author: White tank The ITE part is huge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776732) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:23 AM Author: razzle cuck Only 2 point difference for ITE? It is a 147 ITE, maybe even more. It would be like a 130 pre-ITE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776773) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:26 AM Author: White tank Seriously doubt it's 147 ITE. You should see the applications my judge gets. Last week I saw one from a 2010 NYU grad with a 3.5 GPA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776793) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:31 AM Author: razzle cuck Oh, I believe it. The scale is all relative. I'm rating along the matrix of possible legal jobs - with 180 being partner at an awesome firm with huge book of business and 120 being working for free or in a paralegal gig or something. Median salary in law is what, $90kish? This is significantly below that. But your hours are lower so I rated it higher. Then I added more points for ITE. Result is a 147, I think.
The fact that even prestigious people are applying for 147 jobs these days doesn't really change that it is a 147 job.
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:35 AM Author: White tank The location adds to it, though I don't want to out myself. I will say that I live in a resort destination where many people honeymoon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776856) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:57 AM Author: razzle cuck Eh, I lived in a place like that. I can't say that I'd want to do that permanently. I'm more of a big city guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15777002) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 1:11 AM Author: White tank So am I, but it's fun for now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15777104) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 1:20 AM Author: razzle cuck I give you props for having a good attitude about this whole situation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15777183) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:17 AM Author: maroon bearded casino main people If you're a hot chick: 168 If you're a guy who plans on having a family at some point: 145 |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:21 AM Author: Comical Violet Senate Hairy Legs 120. i made more than u (prorated) in high school senior year as a waiter (200 a night, cash 0 taxes). Worked 3 days a week in summer at cheesecake factory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776759) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:23 AM Author: White tank It's definitely a 120-135 position if you judge it entirely on the $$$. But there are soft factors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776772) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:25 AM Author: Comical Violet Senate Hairy Legs i worked 2-3 days a week compared to ur 5 days a week. i could also be flexible and choose my days, not to mention on holidays like mother's day i make 500 cash.
i knew the owner so i didn't do any remedial stuff like cleaning or end-of-night cleanup.
i got to hit on hot chicks that walked into the restaurant.
got to sleep with 3 waitresses during my stay there.
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Date: August 13th, 2010 12:29 AM Author: White tank From your description, I would rather have this job than your old one. I wouldn't want to work a service job again (did it in undergrad and high school and, though I was good at it, hated it). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15776812) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 10:24 AM Author: pearly lay being a lawyer is a service job and just as bad as being a waiter, maybe worse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15778597) |
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Date: August 13th, 2010 11:11 AM Author: White tank I actually thought someone might respond with this. In a way it is, but as a law clerk it's not the same. The only person I'm serving is my judge and he's great. There's actually very little interaction between us two. This is very, very different than other service jobs, such as waiting. Definitely not "just as bad" (at least in my case). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394497&forum_id=2#15779028) |