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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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rebellious home
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Pea-brained center pozpig
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Pea-brained center pozpig
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Stirring pocket flask
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
turquoise thirsty stag film rigor
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
swashbuckling maniacal turdskin senate
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
floppy plaza sneaky criminal
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Arousing fiercely-loyal theater
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Arousing fiercely-loyal theater
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Arousing fiercely-loyal theater
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Lascivious Institution New Version
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
startled abode police squad
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
vibrant coiffed site
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
swashbuckling maniacal turdskin senate
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
rebellious home
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
submissive hall hissy fit
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
cheese-eating frozen den
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
cerise garrison knife
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
rebellious home
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
180 zippy candlestick maker trailer park
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/26/25
...
lavender selfie
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
mint aromatic range jewess
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Sepia fanboi
  06/26/25
...
adventurous mildly autistic old irish cottage whorehouse
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
ultramarine mexican
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Stimulating Sickened Hell Becky
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Motley orchestra pit nibblets
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Stimulating Sickened Hell Becky
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
swashbuckling maniacal turdskin senate
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
floppy plaza sneaky criminal
  06/27/25
...
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Beady-eyed flirting hairy legs messiness
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Stimulating Sickened Hell Becky
  06/27/25
...
Cowardly magical mad-dog skullcap rehab
  06/27/25
...
Odious Twisted Locus
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Motley orchestra pit nibblets
  06/27/25
How is STB?
floppy plaza sneaky criminal
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Fishy Razzmatazz School Background Story
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
swashbuckling maniacal turdskin senate
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
mint aromatic range jewess
  06/27/25
...
Painfully Honest Indecent Queen Of The Night
  06/27/25
...
swashbuckling maniacal turdskin senate
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: rebellious home

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Pea-brained center pozpig

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Pea-brained center pozpig

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Stirring pocket flask

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: turquoise thirsty stag film rigor

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: swashbuckling maniacal turdskin senate

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: floppy plaza sneaky criminal

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Arousing fiercely-loyal theater

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Arousing fiercely-loyal theater

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Arousing fiercely-loyal theater

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Lascivious Institution New Version

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: startled abode police squad

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: vibrant coiffed site

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: swashbuckling maniacal turdskin senate

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: rebellious home

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: submissive hall hissy fit

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: cheese-eating frozen den

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: cerise garrison knife

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: rebellious home

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: 180 zippy candlestick maker trailer park

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: lavender selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: mint aromatic range jewess

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Sepia fanboi

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: adventurous mildly autistic old irish cottage whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: ultramarine mexican

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Stimulating Sickened Hell Becky

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Motley orchestra pit nibblets

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Stimulating Sickened Hell Becky

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: swashbuckling maniacal turdskin senate

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: floppy plaza sneaky criminal

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Beady-eyed flirting hairy legs messiness

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Stimulating Sickened Hell Becky

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Cowardly magical mad-dog skullcap rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Odious Twisted Locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Motley orchestra pit nibblets

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: floppy plaza sneaky criminal

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Fishy Razzmatazz School Background Story

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: swashbuckling maniacal turdskin senate

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: mint aromatic range jewess

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Indecent Queen Of The Night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: swashbuckling maniacal turdskin senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)