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I am the Barzini "Rat"

I did it. I'm a 1L at CLS and my girlfriend is a UW-Madison ...
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
PRove it.
Lemon state
  04/07/06
Prove it by initials or interests of the Jewess, so don can ...
Bateful Boltzmann
  04/07/06
She has Dating not Friendship in her facebook profile. This ...
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
Don already revealed this information.
Saffron striped hyena stage
  04/07/06
I think that he mentioned this in another thread, didnt' he?
Very tactful chestnut forum puppy
  04/07/06
Maybe. I don't follow don barzini that much. I just wanted t...
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
you didn't really pwn anyone. life goes on.
Bipolar insane hissy fit office
  04/07/06
yes it was
Motley sapphire school degenerate
  04/07/06
post a screenshot of her profile then. you can host it on im...
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
He might be from UW-Madison (and therefore be able to read h...
Lemon state
  04/07/06
i just want to see the profile. it's Wack that they don't al...
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
My girlfriend is an alum there.
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
why did you do it
exhilarant maize rehab
  04/07/06
1. Funny as hell. 2. An historic board-pwn.
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
I'm not going to identify her. Sawwy.
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
copy anbd paste her interests
exhilarant maize rehab
  04/07/06
you can easily cover up her name and any identifying informa...
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
Then anyone from UW-Madison will be able to find her via Int...
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
uh anyone can already find her just by typing in the profile...
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
TITCR. It's not that hard to post a quote someone has on th...
Bateful Boltzmann
  04/07/06
I don't have access to her profile; my girlfriend does.
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
That's a separate issue than whether or not you can provide ...
Bateful Boltzmann
  04/07/06
See below.
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
I am aware you provided the information, just wanted to poin...
Bateful Boltzmann
  04/07/06
I figured it was only a matter of time before somebody trie...
Motley sapphire school degenerate
  04/07/06
you deserve 3 180s for this. well done.
Supple blathering national security agency national
  04/07/06
And I only got 170 on the real test. :(
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
If this guy proves he did it, I expect apologies from at lea...
Cracking Space
  04/07/06
he didn't do shit or else he'd be willing to post a screensh...
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
Still, it wasn't me. Not only do I not have a uw-m accoun...
Cracking Space
  04/07/06
I already explained why I'm not doing that.
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
That doesn't prove anything, only that he goes to U Wisconsi...
Lemon state
  04/07/06
it would be at least some proof. he isn't even willing to po...
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
Taking credit for a stunt you didn't pull is weak as hell.
Saffron striped hyena stage
  04/07/06
Wait a sec. I'll call my girlfriend and get the PW to her fa...
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
someone catch me up on what happened?? or link, please
Irate macaca whorehouse
  04/07/06
thread titled "you jerks, I got pwn3d"
Saffron striped hyena stage
  04/07/06
In ~10 Min I will post proof. I am calling my g/f for the PW...
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
post your gf's fb pic while youre at it
exhilarant maize rehab
  04/07/06
we need to see said gf's titty pic too
Appetizing Field Rigor
  04/07/06
Post the communication you sent to the girl.
Crusty theater
  04/07/06
I just sent her some links to the site. That was enough.
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
sure you did. just like you were going to call your imaginar...
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
See below.
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
No, I am Spartacus!
vivacious mewling pocket flask electric furnace
  04/07/06
PROOF
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
Don, you've gotta verify this...
Saffron striped hyena stage
  04/07/06
"The picture she supplied does not show her face, but r...
exhilarant maize rehab
  04/07/06
The picture on her facebook profile, that is. The pictur...
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
what? you're saying that don provided the picture of a diffe...
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
The person who posted her photo to facebook was a different ...
abnormal indigo preventive strike
  04/07/06
oh you mean Rachel Orleck?
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
pwn3d.
Comical cuckoldry turdskin
  04/07/06
Date: April 7th, 2006 5:54 PM Author: enchilada of evil ...
vengeful lodge
  04/07/06
...
vivacious mewling pocket flask electric furnace
  04/07/06
fair enough
unhinged drab theatre
  04/07/06
you're lucky i'm nice
narrow-minded casino
  04/07/06
wasn't for my sake
unhinged drab theatre
  04/07/06
delete that
unhinged drab theatre
  04/07/06
I cant dude somebody already quoted me. I'm actually rachel ...
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
just change the name
unhinged drab theatre
  04/07/06
Are you serious, or is this some sort of elaborate flame?
Aromatic Red Hell Filthpig
  04/07/06
yes I'm serious
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
No you aren't.
Aromatic Red Hell Filthpig
  04/07/06
Date: April 7th, 2006 5:54 PM Author: enchilada of evil ...
unhinged drab theatre
  04/07/06
See, that wasn't so hard was it?
Bateful Boltzmann
  04/07/06
That's who I thought it was.
Appetizing Field Rigor
  04/07/06
Rachel Orleck-Lubka. Iota chapter of Alpha Phi Sorority. A...
vivacious mewling pocket flask electric furnace
  04/07/06
yeah, i googled her and that's what came up for me too.
Saffron striped hyena stage
  04/07/06
as much as barzini has problems, this was really mean. yo...
Sick jap
  04/07/06
Nice job welterweight. I'm glad you put that loser in his p...
sooty galvanic windowlicker
  04/07/06
his place = posting on xoxo? the op just loved barzini so mu...
Spruce drunken sandwich
  04/07/06
Dude should change his moniker to "Corleone." Y...
Saffron striped hyena stage
  04/07/06
FUCK YEA
exhilarant maize rehab
  04/07/06
i just want props in the guy's tagline for coming up with th...
Saffron striped hyena stage
  04/07/06
Which section are you in dood?
carmine adventurous church
  04/07/06
...
Jet foreskin pit
  04/13/06


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Date: April 7th, 2006 5:11 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

I did it. I'm a 1L at CLS and my girlfriend is a UW-Madison grad. Using her facebook account and the copious identifying info barzini posted, I was able to recover the girl's identity. The rest, as you know, is history.

PWN3D.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536199)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:13 PM
Author: Lemon state

PRove it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536215)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:13 PM
Author: Bateful Boltzmann

Prove it by initials or interests of the Jewess, so don can confirm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536223)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

She has Dating not Friendship in her facebook profile. This is unusual and should be enough for him to confirm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536237)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: Saffron striped hyena stage

Don already revealed this information.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536243)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: Very tactful chestnut forum puppy

I think that he mentioned this in another thread, didnt' he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536245)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

Maybe. I don't follow don barzini that much. I just wanted to pwn the fuck out of him because it would be funny. I have nothing against the guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536255)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:24 PM
Author: Bipolar insane hissy fit office

you didn't really pwn anyone. life goes on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536694)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:26 PM
Author: Motley sapphire school degenerate

yes it was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536328)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

post a screenshot of her profile then. you can host it on imageshack for free and it would only take you a second to do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536227)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: Lemon state

He might be from UW-Madison (and therefore be able to read her profile), but he still might not be the one who did it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536238)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

i just want to see the profile. it's Wack that they don't allow people from other schools to see profiles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536247)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

My girlfriend is an alum there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536248)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: exhilarant maize rehab

why did you do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536266)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:18 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

1. Funny as hell.

2. An historic board-pwn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536275)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

I'm not going to identify her. Sawwy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536242)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: exhilarant maize rehab

copy anbd paste her interests

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536253)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

you can easily cover up her name and any identifying information. you are obviously lying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536254)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

Then anyone from UW-Madison will be able to find her via Interests. Next thing, Pensive will be messaging her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536265)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:19 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

uh anyone can already find her just by typing in the profile number from the image barzini posted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536283)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:18 PM
Author: Bateful Boltzmann

TITCR. It's not that hard to post a quote someone has on their page, or a list of interests, initials of the first 5 comments, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536270)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:20 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

I don't have access to her profile; my girlfriend does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536293)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:51 PM
Author: Bateful Boltzmann

That's a separate issue than whether or not you can provide details that would not identify her outright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536476)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:51 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

See below.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536481)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:53 PM
Author: Bateful Boltzmann

I am aware you provided the information, just wanted to point out the discrepancy in your post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536498)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: Motley sapphire school degenerate

I figured it was only a matter of time before somebody tried to take the credit.

STFU.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536252)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:12 PM
Author: Supple blathering national security agency national

you deserve 3 180s for this. well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536208)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:13 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

And I only got 170 on the real test. :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536218)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:13 PM
Author: Cracking Space

If this guy proves he did it, I expect apologies from at least 3 or 4 of you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536221)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

he didn't do shit or else he'd be willing to post a screenshot of her profile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536263)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:18 PM
Author: Cracking Space

Still, it wasn't me.

Not only do I not have a uw-m account, I don't have a facebook account period.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536273)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:18 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

I already explained why I'm not doing that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536278)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:19 PM
Author: Lemon state

That doesn't prove anything, only that he goes to U Wisconsin.

He should forward Don the email the Jewish chick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536282)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:20 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

it would be at least some proof. he isn't even willing to post a screenshot with revealing info cut out. I doubt he could even point out where wisconsin is on a map

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536291)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:19 PM
Author: Saffron striped hyena stage

Taking credit for a stunt you didn't pull is weak as hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536286)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:21 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

Wait a sec. I'll call my girlfriend and get the PW to her facebook account.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536299)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:21 PM
Author: Irate macaca whorehouse

someone catch me up on what happened?? or link, please

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536303)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:23 PM
Author: Saffron striped hyena stage

thread titled "you jerks, I got pwn3d"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536309)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:22 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

In ~10 Min I will post proof. I am calling my g/f for the PW to her facebook account.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536308)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:23 PM
Author: exhilarant maize rehab

post your gf's fb pic while youre at it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536311)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:24 PM
Author: Appetizing Field Rigor

we need to see said gf's titty pic too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536315)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:27 PM
Author: Crusty theater

Post the communication you sent to the girl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536330)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:35 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

I just sent her some links to the site. That was enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536361)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:42 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

sure you did. just like you were going to call your imaginary girlfriend for the password

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536421)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:43 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

See below.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536433)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:40 PM
Author: vivacious mewling pocket flask electric furnace

No, I am Spartacus!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536405)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:41 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike
Subject: PROOF

Barzini can corroborate this.

First initial is R. Second initial is uncommon and I will withhold it because it might be identifying.

The 2nd most recent comment is from someone named Lauren and dated March 2.

The last (10th) comment shown is dated November 19.

The picture she supplied does not show her face, but rather geometric shapes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536415)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:42 PM
Author: Saffron striped hyena stage

Don, you've gotta verify this...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536427)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:43 PM
Author: exhilarant maize rehab

"The picture she supplied does not show her face, but rather geometric shapes."

You sure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536431)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:45 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

The picture on her facebook profile, that is.

The picture Don provided was in the profile of someone with initials CW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536442)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:46 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

what? you're saying that don provided the picture of a different girl and yet you found the correct girl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536450)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:48 PM
Author: abnormal indigo preventive strike

The person who posted her photo to facebook was a different person. R*'s profile contains geometric shapes. CW posted a photo including R*.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536461)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:54 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

oh you mean Rachel Orleck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536499)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:56 PM
Author: Comical cuckoldry turdskin

pwn3d.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536510)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:58 PM
Author: vengeful lodge

Date: April 7th, 2006 5:54 PM

Author: enchilada of evil

oh you mean Rachel Orleck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536526)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:58 PM
Author: vivacious mewling pocket flask electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536529)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:01 PM
Author: unhinged drab theatre

fair enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536553)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:02 PM
Author: narrow-minded casino

you're lucky i'm nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536565)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:07 PM
Author: unhinged drab theatre

wasn't for my sake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536598)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:00 PM
Author: unhinged drab theatre

delete that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536541)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:02 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

I cant dude somebody already quoted me. I'm actually rachel though so it's cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536559)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:04 PM
Author: unhinged drab theatre

just change the name

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536576)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:05 PM
Author: Aromatic Red Hell Filthpig

Are you serious, or is this some sort of elaborate flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536588)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:06 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

yes I'm serious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536591)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:08 PM
Author: Aromatic Red Hell Filthpig

No you aren't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536609)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:08 PM
Author: unhinged drab theatre

Date: April 7th, 2006 5:54 PM

Author: enchilada of evil

oh you mean Raquel Wassell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536608)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:44 PM
Author: Bateful Boltzmann

See, that wasn't so hard was it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536437)





Date: April 7th, 2006 5:56 PM
Author: Appetizing Field Rigor

That's who I thought it was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536507)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:08 PM
Author: vivacious mewling pocket flask electric furnace

Rachel Orleck-Lubka. Iota chapter of Alpha Phi Sorority. A photographer for student paper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536610)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:09 PM
Author: Saffron striped hyena stage

yeah, i googled her and that's what came up for me too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536614)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:04 PM
Author: Sick jap

as much as barzini has problems, this was really mean.

your reasons are pretty horseshit, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536578)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:06 PM
Author: sooty galvanic windowlicker

Nice job welterweight. I'm glad you put that loser in his place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536592)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:06 PM
Author: Spruce drunken sandwich

his place = posting on xoxo? the op just loved barzini so much that he couldn't stand to see him go on to have a normal life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536595)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:07 PM
Author: Saffron striped hyena stage

Dude should change his moniker to "Corleone."

You know, because he pwn3d Barzini.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536599)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:10 PM
Author: exhilarant maize rehab

FUCK YEA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536619)





Date: April 7th, 2006 6:11 PM
Author: Saffron striped hyena stage

i just want props in the guy's tagline for coming up with the idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536627)





Date: April 7th, 2006 7:11 PM
Author: carmine adventurous church

Which section are you in dood?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5536910)





Date: April 13th, 2006 5:21 AM
Author: Jet foreskin pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=395834&forum_id=2#5573660)