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How does the NY C&F intereview work?

What is the time-table for everything after the bar exam? W...
Primrose talented messiness
  08/12/10
After you pass. You send that shit in and they schedule an i...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
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Primrose talented messiness
  08/12/10
3d dept is for out of staters iirc. 1st dept is for NYC resi...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
How is this whole process initiated though? Am I supposed t...
Primrose talented messiness
  08/12/10
Yeah, they'll send you something. You can also d/l the packe...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
cool, thanks man
Primrose talented messiness
  08/12/10
"He told me to contact rich relatives" lol. do ...
Alcoholic tripping whorehouse really tough guy
  08/12/10
They don't give a shit. I didn't have an employment affidavi...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
i cant believe ny makes you sit for the exam before C&F....
fishy locus
  08/12/10
only criminals fail C&F man
Alcoholic tripping whorehouse really tough guy
  08/12/10
yeah but those who do had to study for and pass the bar exam...
fishy locus
  08/12/10
if you're a criminal who's concerned he may not pass, call t...
Alcoholic tripping whorehouse really tough guy
  08/12/10
so they are willing to advise you up front? why not just do ...
fishy locus
  08/12/10
pretty sure they are. probably, as someone said below, to av...
Alcoholic tripping whorehouse really tough guy
  08/12/10
The number of ppl who have been denied admission to the ny b...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
thats fine, but if theyre that lax, why not just approve eve...
fishy locus
  08/12/10
Cuts down on paperwork. Don't have to process the c&f ap...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
yeah, i get it man. im just saying its ridiculous that they'...
fishy locus
  08/12/10
nm, misread.
adventurous karate
  08/12/10
Do you think a lot of people fail c&f? It's not even a f...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
this has to be flame. one or two people per cycle? get the f...
fishy locus
  08/12/10
I only know one person who failed c&f and that person ha...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
"I only know one person who failed c&f" well,...
fishy locus
  08/12/10
C&F is one of the few threads that attorney protectionis...
adventurous karate
  08/12/10
Who the fuck cares. Nobody passes the bar but not c&f. C...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
"Nobody passes the bar but not c&f." so nobod...
fishy locus
  08/12/10
look man. most people pass criminal background checks that s...
Alcoholic tripping whorehouse really tough guy
  08/12/10
I don't know how you could fail c&f in ny unless you or ...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
even still, i'm sure it wouldve been nice to know before inv...
fishy locus
  08/12/10
Or years and tens of thousands going to law school. Idk man,...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
how about they just pre approve you before you sit for the e...
fishy locus
  08/12/10
Most people that have C&F issues aren't approved before ...
adventurous karate
  08/12/10
they are in my state. and either way, at least you would hav...
fishy locus
  08/12/10
so now you claim to know the disposition of every candidate ...
adventurous karate
  08/12/10
Like I said, extra paperwork. Foreign llms take the exam in ...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
no, but most other states don't let English deficient foreig...
adventurous karate
  08/12/10
Titcredit. And the llms who don't pass the first time aren't...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
Its mostly a formality so NY can say theyre one of the only ...
Light Chapel
  08/12/10
what's considered a blemish here?
Multi-colored sooty parlor roast beef
  08/12/10
idk, whatever catches their eye. criminal history, terrible ...
Light Chapel
  08/12/10
what's considered bad credit? My friend is worried he'll ha...
Multi-colored sooty parlor roast beef
  08/12/10
no idea. if he has defaults and judgments against him now, m...
Light Chapel
  08/12/10
...
Bright cumskin
  08/12/10
Not paying your creditors may raise an issue, esp child supp...
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
staple $100 to you're criminal record.
Ultramarine Trip International Law Enforcement Agency
  08/12/10
If during one of your summers you were a research assistant ...
azure gunner voyeur
  08/12/10
would probably get an affidavit, unless your job was to clea...
Light Chapel
  08/12/10
Yes, you will need it.
Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth
  08/12/10
i like your s/n
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  08/12/10


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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:37 PM
Author: Primrose talented messiness

What is the time-table for everything after the bar exam? When do you send in the C&F application? Now, or after you find out if you passed? What's the deal here?

tia



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773751)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:41 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

After you pass. You send that shit in and they schedule an interview. You and about a hundred other peops interview at the same time. My interview was about 1 minute long with an octogenarian who had his walker deskside. He didn't even crack the file. Asked where I worked, told him I was unemployed. He told me to contact rich relatives. Worthless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773794)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:42 PM
Author: Primrose talented messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773807)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:44 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

3d dept is for out of staters iirc. 1st dept is for NYC residents. Don't worry. You have 3 years from passage to get admitted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773830)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:48 PM
Author: Primrose talented messiness

How is this whole process initiated though? Am I supposed to proactively do something, or do the Bar Examiners get in touch with me and say, "your assigned to x dep't, download their forms and submit them by this date"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773863)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:50 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

Yeah, they'll send you something. You can also d/l the packet from the website.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773885)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:55 PM
Author: Primrose talented messiness

cool, thanks man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773948)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:43 PM
Author: Alcoholic tripping whorehouse really tough guy

"He told me to contact rich relatives"

lol. do they care much about your pre law school employment? it's going to be hard to get references for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773821)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:49 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

They don't give a shit. I didn't have an employment affidavit for a law school employer. (Employer was a scatterbrained lazy shit.) they gave me shit about not having it, so I submitted a letter stating the efforts I made to get it. I don't think anyone read it. It's just like a check the box type thing. Unless your former employer tells the c&f committee you are an embezzling whore, you're getting admitted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773874)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:53 PM
Author: fishy locus

i cant believe ny makes you sit for the exam before C&F. do other states do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773923)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:56 PM
Author: Alcoholic tripping whorehouse really tough guy

only criminals fail C&F man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773957)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: fishy locus

yeah but those who do had to study for and pass the bar exam before finding out they were never going to be admitted anyway? what the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773967)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: Alcoholic tripping whorehouse really tough guy

if you're a criminal who's concerned he may not pass, call the examiners to find out what your prospects are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773975)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:00 PM
Author: fishy locus

so they are willing to advise you up front? why not just do it formally that way then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773985)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:03 PM
Author: Alcoholic tripping whorehouse really tough guy

pretty sure they are. probably, as someone said below, to avoid reviewing applicants who'd go on to fail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774007)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:01 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

The number of ppl who have been denied admission to the ny bar based on c&f after passing the bar for the first time is prolly in the double digits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773988)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:02 PM
Author: fishy locus

thats fine, but if theyre that lax, why not just approve everyone up front?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773996)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:06 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

Cuts down on paperwork. Don't have to process the c&f apps of the hundreds who fail. I mean I dunno man why ask so many questions? It's not a big deal for anyone but you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774027)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:08 PM
Author: fishy locus

yeah, i get it man. im just saying its ridiculous that they're saving time processing a few extra applications at the expense of the few people who invest MONTHS and a bunch of cash into passing the exam.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774045)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:09 PM
Author: adventurous karate

nm, misread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774049)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:13 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

Do you think a lot of people fail c&f? It's not even a few. I bet one or two ppl fail each cycle, but prob not even that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774076)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:14 PM
Author: fishy locus

this has to be flame. one or two people per cycle? get the fuck outta here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774080)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:29 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

I only know one person who failed c&f and that person had it coming to them. A lot of ppl went out of their way to contact the c&f committee about this applicant.

Coincidentally, he used to be an asshole and xoxo poster. Maybe still is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774172)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 8:19 PM
Author: fishy locus

"I only know one person who failed c&f"

well, i'm convinced.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774638)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:08 PM
Author: adventurous karate

C&F is one of the few threads that attorney protectionism is hanging on.

they can't make it *too* pro forma.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774043)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

Who the fuck cares. Nobody passes the bar but not c&f. C&f is a formality in ny. Means ny doesn't have to deal with all the c&f apps of the 75% of llms who fail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773971)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:00 PM
Author: fishy locus

"Nobody passes the bar but not c&f."

so nobody fails C&F then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15773982)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:04 PM
Author: Alcoholic tripping whorehouse really tough guy

look man. most people pass criminal background checks that some employers run. that doesn't mean the checks are worthless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774013)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:04 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

I don't know how you could fail c&f in ny unless you or someone else went out of your way to prevent you from getting admitted. It's not like ppl are dinged by c&f and surprised.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774015)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:06 PM
Author: fishy locus

even still, i'm sure it wouldve been nice to know before investing months of time and thousands of dollars into passing the exam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774031)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:09 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

Or years and tens of thousands going to law school. Idk man, how about they pre approve you at birth? Ppl who know they will fail c&f know that in advance. You gotta be a pretty bad dood to fail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774053)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:15 PM
Author: fishy locus

how about they just pre approve you before you sit for the exam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774087)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:17 PM
Author: adventurous karate

Most people that have C&F issues aren't approved before you sit for the exam in jurisdictions that require C&F filing prior to or contemporaneously with the Bar exam app.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774099)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 8:19 PM
Author: fishy locus

they are in my state. and either way, at least you would have a clear red flag from the state bar months in advance of making any commitment to take the exam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774632)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 8:35 PM
Author: adventurous karate

so now you claim to know the disposition of every candidate who has C&F issues in your state?

The one person I know who had C&F issues was not cleared before taking the bar.

you have your own clear flags in re C&F - it's not like you don't know what you've done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774759)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:19 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

Like I said, extra paperwork. Foreign llms take the exam in droves and most fail. Lots of people take the exam but never bother to get admitted (work in another state, don't work as attys).

Forgot to add the convenience of having your secretary do your app post-bar. That's a reason right there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774111)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:06 PM
Author: adventurous karate

no, but most other states don't let English deficient foreigners take their bar exam.

it'd be a complete waste of their budget to process the 11k C&F applications when only 1/4 of the FOBs taking the bar pass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774028)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 7:11 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

Titcredit. And the llms who don't pass the first time aren't ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774061)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 8:18 PM
Author: Light Chapel

Its mostly a formality so NY can say theyre one of the only states that interviews everybody. For people who don't have any blemishes on their record, in many departments, you interview is literally a 1 minute thing the morning before you get sworn in. Its more of a pain to get everything together than something to worry about once you have all the documents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774627)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 8:32 PM
Author: Multi-colored sooty parlor roast beef

what's considered a blemish here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774732)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 8:40 PM
Author: Light Chapel

idk, whatever catches their eye. criminal history, terrible credit, etc. Even if its a blemish, as long as its nothing serious, I've heard its nothing more than a couple minute chat about the incident. don't stress it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774805)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 8:49 PM
Author: Multi-colored sooty parlor roast beef

what's considered bad credit? My friend is worried he'll have c&f issues - he was laid off a few times (he had numerous years of pre-ls WE).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774898)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 9:28 PM
Author: Light Chapel

no idea. if he has defaults and judgments against him now, maybe that. if its all in the past and everything now is up to snuff, prob not such a big deal. but this is mostly conjecture on my part from what i've heard over the years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15775295)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 9:37 PM
Author: Bright cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15775411)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 10:36 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

Not paying your creditors may raise an issue, esp child support, but getting laid off isn't an issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15776042)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 8:33 PM
Author: Ultramarine Trip International Law Enforcement Agency

staple $100 to you're criminal record.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774740)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 8:37 PM
Author: azure gunner voyeur

If during one of your summers you were a research assistant for a prof, do you need to get an affidavit from him or does that not count as a "legal job"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774775)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 8:41 PM
Author: Light Chapel

would probably get an affidavit, unless your job was to clean his office. i assume you did law research so..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15774811)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 10:35 PM
Author: Histrionic know-it-all address scourge upon the earth

Yes, you will need it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15776025)



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Date: August 12th, 2010 10:36 PM
Author: mahogany candlestick maker rigor

i like your s/n

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1394233&forum_id=2#15776038)