\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

At what point do you kill your family dog?

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of h...
Plum voyeur
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if...
Thriller copper hairy legs
  12/01/25
https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-c...
Thriller copper hairy legs
  12/01/25
Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Gettin...
Plum voyeur
  12/01/25
Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place....
Thriller copper hairy legs
  12/01/25
Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think w...
Plum voyeur
  12/01/25
Good luck.
Thriller copper hairy legs
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then ...
maniacal salmon pozpig theatre
  12/01/25
check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding
Provocative pearly doctorate
  12/01/25
if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if yo...
maize galvanic nursing home mexican
  12/01/25
No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can g...
Plum voyeur
  12/01/25
unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't al...
maize galvanic nursing home mexican
  12/01/25
tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that y...
Infuriating lavender stage
  12/01/25
bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisti...
maize galvanic nursing home mexican
  12/01/25
It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to ...
Infuriating lavender stage
  12/01/25
How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance c...
curious trump supporter
  12/01/25
Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a w...
Infuriating lavender stage
  12/01/25
are you mentally retarded
Violet Slimy Locale
  12/01/25
Show your work. I’ve shown mine If some vet tomorro...
Infuriating lavender stage
  12/01/25
how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and...
Violet Slimy Locale
  12/01/25
Wait 6 months
Infuriating lavender stage
  12/01/25
loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart
Violet Slimy Locale
  12/01/25
Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools ...
curious trump supporter
  12/01/25
...
Thriller copper hairy legs
  12/01/25
I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigatin...
Gaped Razzle-dazzle Locus Double Fault
  12/01/25
Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the...
curious trump supporter
  12/01/25
...
blathering silver kitty antidepressant drug
  12/01/25
i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscio...
carmine trip gay wizard scourge upon the earth
  12/01/25
I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitat...
Thriller copper hairy legs
  12/01/25
cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog a...
doobsian snowy coldplay fan
  12/01/25
Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, esp...
Infuriating lavender stage
  12/01/25
I've noticed this. I can't say I spent a ton of time brow...
titillating burgundy ape tattoo
  12/02/25
when you're hungry
Chest-beating odious blood rage
  12/01/25
That’s always tough and there’s no right answer....
razzle turdskin
  12/01/25
just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have s...
cerebral space
  12/01/25
when the wok is at a rolling boil
Coiffed site
  12/01/25
...
dull histrionic goyim
  12/01/25
...
Erotic mood
  12/01/25
...
stimulating clear institution french chef
  12/01/25
...
Infuriating lavender stage
  12/01/25
rorring boir
chestnut big parlor skinny woman
  12/02/25
PAGING metaphysics is gay the poaster
Pearl lascivious native dysfunction
  12/01/25
...
rose sandwich
  12/02/25
I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insa...
Brindle filthpig rigpig
  12/01/25
i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. ...
Infuriating lavender stage
  12/01/25
There’s ways the dog can make it up to you after the s...
dark shrine faggot firefighter
  12/01/25
Hey mig, you murdered your dog bc he annoyed you. Thoughts h...
rose sandwich
  12/02/25
my extended family did the dog surgery/chemo stuff once and ...
topaz cuck useless brakes
  12/02/25
i do it in the first year, before anyone gets too attached.
chestnut big parlor skinny woman
  12/02/25
Update: Got a second opinion from a country vet an hour away...
Plum voyeur
  12/04/25
180
Infuriating lavender stage
  12/04/25
180 fuck those vet scammers
Cyan Heady Lettuce Temple
  12/04/25
180
topaz cuck useless brakes
  12/04/25
180. This is why you get second opinions. Also, never use ...
Thriller copper hairy legs
  12/04/25


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: Plum voyeur

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of her. Unfortunately, she has a collapsing trachea, which will progressively worsen until it suffocates her to death. Could be months, could be years. In the meantime, I can pay $5,000 for a tracheal surgery which could more or less “cure” the issue but even then she’s looking at maybe 5 years tops. I’m also Poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474553)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: Thriller copper hairy legs

I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if the vet is ripping you off. Get a few other second opinions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474558)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: Thriller copper hairy legs

https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-cost



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474580)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: Plum voyeur

Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Getting multiple opinions though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474589)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: Thriller copper hairy legs

Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place.

If not, I recommend some veterinary schools. They may be cheaper, especially if you allow them to work with students on the dog (it would be supervised by faculty).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474597)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: Plum voyeur

Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think we have a couple nearby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474630)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: Thriller copper hairy legs

Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474905)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: maniacal salmon pozpig theatre

I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then don’t do it, just put the dog to sleep when it’s time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474569)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: Provocative pearly doctorate

check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474573)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: maize galvanic nursing home mexican

if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if you don't and really can't afford the $5k, it might old yeller time...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474577)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: Plum voyeur

No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can get it cheaper. It’s hard to kill something over money. Obviously there’s a threshold but WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474583)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: maize galvanic nursing home mexican

unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't already have insurance. your vet records will show that the tests for this condition predate the policy. still try though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474588)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: Infuriating lavender stage

tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that you dont show them?

is there some national database of vet records?

one weird trick: cant op just get insurance now and keep quiet about any vet records in existence and let do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474598)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: maize galvanic nursing home mexican

bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisting conditions the insurance conundrum is solved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474614)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Infuriating lavender stage

It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to be hidden because most people are not just going to random doctors but having their claims submitted to major national insurance companies so there’s essentially a national database of your medical record through insurance claims.

For dogs its not the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474674)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: curious trump supporter

How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance company will demand to see as a condition of coverage and will scour for any sign of breathing issues?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474642)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Infuriating lavender stage

Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a walk in clinic for shots and I have those records. There’s no records of annual checkups or blood work or anything that would document any physical condition our dog has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474668)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Violet Slimy Locale

are you mentally retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474676)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Infuriating lavender stage

Show your work. I’ve shown mine

If some vet tomorrow said my dog had a major problem, I’d never mention that visit. I’d simply show the insurance company the records of the walk in clinics where we’ve gotten vaccines over the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474692)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Violet Slimy Locale

how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and report a collapsing trachea to them tomorrow, even if its a lie. lets see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474756)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 3:31 PM
Author: Infuriating lavender stage

Wait 6 months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474854)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: Violet Slimy Locale

loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474658)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: curious trump supporter

Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools often have discounted rates so vet students can learn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474609)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: Thriller copper hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474613)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: Gaped Razzle-dazzle Locus Double Fault

I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigating a case against a state insurance regulator and got a bunch of their internal emails, and they absolutely RIP on pet insurance. They use it as a shorthand for a scammy worthless product.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474913)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:10 PM
Author: curious trump supporter

Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the surgery instead. Otherwise put down the dog if it looks very uncomfortable all the time. This should be a high bar, though.. Dogs are very resilient and adapt to most shit that life brings them. *takes gun out of mouth* we can learn a lot from them, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474599)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: blathering silver kitty antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474657)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: carmine trip gay wizard scourge upon the earth

i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscious. my ex (a vet) and i got in a big fight over this. it seems extraordinarily selfish consider $5k could make a lot of other pets (and humans) lives much better.

with kids you could mentally frame it as paying for their happiness but if youre poor your money is better spent elsewhere imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474611)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: Thriller copper hairy legs

I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitation. That said, my last dog (a giant dog too) beat cancer twice, was a diabetic, lived to 13 and all of her care combined was under $10k. I never spent $5k on any single thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474617)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:16 PM
Author: doobsian snowy coldplay fan

cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog and think about how excited your kids will be about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474621)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Infuriating lavender stage

Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, especially in an expensive area like where OP seems to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474679)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:04 AM
Author: titillating burgundy ape tattoo

I've noticed this.

I can't say I spent a ton of time browsing dog adoption ads years ago, but it can't always have been like this.

I look at what the nearest shelter has and the vast majority are shitpits and the remainder are kinda sad looking, not particularly cute dogs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49476314)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: Chest-beating odious blood rage

when you're hungry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474626)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: razzle turdskin

That’s always tough and there’s no right answer. My last dog didn’t make it quite to 11 and went pretty quick, natural time for the breed. But I told myself if it ever looked like he was suffering I’d take him out for all the cheeseburgers he could eat and then give him a lethal dose of meds and sit there with him till he was gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474690)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: cerebral space

just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have some shitlib couple pay for the surgery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474693)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Coiffed site

when the wok is at a rolling boil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474698)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: dull histrionic goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474712)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: Erotic mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474737)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: stimulating clear institution french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474915)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 10:34 PM
Author: Infuriating lavender stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49476074)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: chestnut big parlor skinny woman

rorring boir

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49476768)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: Pearl lascivious native dysfunction

PAGING metaphysics is gay the poaster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49474942)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: rose sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49476326)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: Brindle filthpig rigpig

I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insane but you gotta save the dog. Even at $5k, you're renting the dog for $80/month. I'm sure if you asked your kids if they'd rather skip eating out once a month or kill the dog, they'd choose the former. This is a crossroads where you can put them more on the route to becoming autoadmit sociopaths or make them more normal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49475049)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: Infuriating lavender stage

i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. at 11, the dog may die in 2-3 yrs even with the surgery -- of something related to the condition, or of other old age shit. the surgery doesnt guarantee him living until 16 by any means. that being said, i totally agree that you've got to save the dog but shop around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49475054)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 1st, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: dark shrine faggot firefighter

There’s ways the dog can make it up to you after the surgery. It will owe you and you can exploit that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49476042)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: rose sandwich

Hey mig, you murdered your dog bc he annoyed you. Thoughts here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49476328)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: topaz cuck useless brakes

my extended family did the dog surgery/chemo stuff once and i wouldn't do it again. yes it probably extended the life of the dog a year or something. but the dog cannot understand why it is in short term pain. it's a sad moment but i would say pick the day and end it is a compassionate OK thing to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49476759)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: chestnut big parlor skinny woman

i do it in the first year, before anyone gets too attached.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49476764)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Plum voyeur

Update: Got a second opinion from a country vet an hour away. He says NOT collapsed trachea, just borderline, but he needs heart meds. So now I have a nearly blind old dog on heart failure meds, but he should be sticking around for a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49483765)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: Infuriating lavender stage

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49483931)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: Cyan Heady Lettuce Temple

180 fuck those vet scammers



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49483958)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: topaz cuck useless brakes

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49484588)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Thriller copper hairy legs

180. This is why you get second opinions. Also, never use the first vet again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2#49484590)