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Didn't Receive "Thank You" Note After CB interview -- DING?
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:07 PM Author: Light histrionic corner I interviewed a guy on Tuesday and did not get a thank you note from him. I was waiting to see it before I write up his evaluation. Should I ding him at this point? Discuss. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952302) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:08 PM Author: ocher stirring principal's office creative flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952310) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:08 PM Author: Light histrionic corner Not a flame. I'm dead serious. Didn't really like the kid all that much, but I think he's sealed his fate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952312) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:09 PM Author: dashing nighttime native 1. flame
2. no |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 9:28 AM Author: Passionate degenerate then you're a dead serious dipshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15955106) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:10 PM Author: Transparent Racy Ratface Den not really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952326) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:09 PM Author: lilac site partner did you give him your card? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952323) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:10 PM Author: Light histrionic corner No. I'm on the fucking website. Everyone else I've interviewed has managed to find me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952332) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:11 PM Author: lilac site partner oh u fancy
why didnt you like him? |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:13 PM Author: vivacious trailer park 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952352) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:14 PM Author: Light histrionic corner He was OK, just a little dull. His whole background/course load was shit like saving the whales. Then said he wanted to do corporate work. I couldn't connect the dots, nor could he. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952358) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:15 PM Author: lilac site partner As an aside: I once got a card from someone after a final round interview (not a legal job) and there was a typo in his fucking email address. What's that about?
I'd ding him. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:18 PM Author: Light histrionic corner Maybe he didn't want you to contact him. But if he really didn't know, then I'd ding the whole firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952399) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:21 PM Author: lilac site partner p.s. guess race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952417) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:22 PM Author: vivacious trailer park Aryan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952432) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:23 PM Author: Light histrionic corner Caucasian? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952436) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:23 PM Author: lilac site partner 200m hurdles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952439) |
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Date: September 6th, 2010 1:31 PM Author: Bossy Titillating Idiot Property Cracker? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15978227) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:15 PM Author: vivacious trailer park now i know this is flame. a real interviewer ITE wouldn't even *consider* someone with that type of coursework for a corp jerb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952372) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:18 PM Author: Light histrionic corner It wasn't saving the whales, but it might as well have been. I seriously have no idea how this person got through OCI either. Unfortunately, I can't say that in my evaluation because it may offend the partner who picked him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952393) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:21 PM Author: dashing nighttime native it sounds as though you already know that you don't like this made-up person. you don't need an additional reason to pretend not to like him. why not just write your imaginary negative evaluation and get on with your day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952418) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:22 PM Author: Light histrionic corner I was just going to write a relatively neutral evaluation, and let the other interviewers be the deciding factor. But now I'm deciding whether to really ding him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952431) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:27 PM Author: Jet-lagged Meetinghouse If you failed to give your business card to him he should ding you. Meaningless formalities are of high importance to douchebags. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952477) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 11:42 AM Author: peach fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15955699) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:33 PM Author: Razzle Brindle Windowlicker Striped Hyena If you're a faggot. Only faggots like than you notes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952553) |
Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:14 PM Author: Violent cerebral location regret terrible flame. no one cares about spam thank you notes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952361) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:16 PM Author: Light histrionic corner I know it's unbelievable ITE that people would blow their chances like this, but this is not a flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952376) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:17 PM Author: vivacious trailer park YOU ARE FLAME. WE GET IT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952382) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:23 PM Author: Violent cerebral location regret So you have nothing to do and are dissatisfied with the volume of emails you currently receive? I think you should start trying to get some work before you get shitcanned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952435) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:25 PM Author: Light histrionic corner Who said I was dissatisfied with the volume of emails or that I have nothing to do? It takes literally 15 seconds to read a 4-sentence email. I'm busy, but I'm sure I can manage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952455) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:29 PM Author: Violent cerebral location regret But you REALLY care about getting a hollow, insincere thank you email from some random you interviewed? lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952508) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:37 PM Author: Light histrionic corner No. But we're looking for people who go above and beyond, not people who do just enough to get by. Plus it's common professional courtesy that likely reflects the way that he will interact with clients in the future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952595) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:26 AM Author: Violent cerebral location regret Did the candidate not sincerely express his gratitude in person? If he did, a separate email is redundant. I've dealt with clients outside of the legal profession and have always made it a point to thank people over the phone or via email, but I've never thought it appropriate to do BOTH. This is analogous. An empty, redundant email is not likely to impress clients and it should not impress you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15953233) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:34 AM Author: Light histrionic corner Not really. I just dropped him off to the next interview, shook hands, and said good luck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15953335) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:31 PM Author: Startling floppy pistol temple Would you prefer an email or a written thank you? I'm assuming all the other interviewees sent you notes? What was the ratio or written to email? Thanks XOXOX (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952525) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:40 PM Author: Light histrionic corner Definitely email. It's faster, especially since we write our evals within a couple of days of the interview. Plus I usually like to reply back. And yes, all other interviewees have sent me thank you notes -- about 90% of them were emails. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952620) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:43 PM Author: Startling floppy pistol temple So what about the 10% that sent a written thank you. Shouldn't you ding them too for not being up to speed on proper protocol. That's what you are dinging this guy for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952668) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:45 PM Author: Light histrionic corner No. Written notes are perfectly fine. The protocol is the note itself, not the method of delivery (which has shifted drastically in the last couple of years). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952694) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:08 AM Author: Startling floppy pistol temple Did you check with HR or some of the partners he interviewed with? Maybe he wrote a note to HR or the top partner, asking the person to thank everyone else that he interview that day, and the person just forgot to pass along the thanks. It would be a shame to ding this guy if he did that, but hey - ITE, you gotta pull out all stops and go the distance. Group thank you note is a ding in my book. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952970) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:27 AM Author: Light histrionic corner No. I'm positive those people would have forwarded it though and they have done so in the past. I'm typically OK with a group thank you notes.
You've stated my point exactly though -- if you know the circumstances of ITE and are not willing to take the extra couple of minutes, then it tells me more about your work ethic and ambitions than your resume/transcript ever could. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:44 AM Author: Violent cerebral location regret FWIW, none of the partners from various V10-V20s who presented at our OCI last year favored the use of thank you notes. Also, I didn't send out a single thank you note and received offers from 2/3 of the NY callbacks that I took. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15953492) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:46 AM Author: spectacular seedy water buffalo national security agency I was at the same presentation, and I was really shocked by it. I send the ty notes each time. I don't care if they are looking for grammatical mistakes. It's the nice thing to do, and if the partners can't recognize it, then, oh well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15953523) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 11:42 AM Author: irradiated blathering kitty cat tattoo subtle syracuse trolling, blatant faggot sucking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15955697) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:59 AM Author: Light histrionic corner IMO, it depends really on when interviewers fill out the evaluations. Once they're written, you can't really go back and edit them. I've been busy the past couple of weeks so I've been slow filling them out (each one can take 1/2 hour if you're thorough). Lately, I've gotten used to receiving thank you notes before I get to the evaluation so it really stood out that this person didn't send one. Putting all these candidates side-by-side, it makes the weeding out process a little easier (all else being equal), especially since we have so little information about the person to go on.
With that said, a lot of people do the evaluations immediately. Especially the partners because they're not as thorough -- they basically just write whether they recommend the person or not. |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 10:37 AM Author: stimulating rehab What do you reply back?
Great to meet you too, blah blah, good luck and we'll be in touch? |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:49 AM Author: Appetizing alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15953559) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:31 PM Author: Motley mustard theater dog poop hire him for eschewing BS formalities you petty cunt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952534) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:43 PM Author: Light histrionic corner See my above reply. It's not about observing some petty formality. It's a reflection of the person and the type of work they will do as an associate to make my life easier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952676) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:04 AM Author: Motley mustard theater dog poop I seriously doubt it you petty cunt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952909) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:34 PM Author: copper double fault stag film I thought you were above this kind of flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952561) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2010 11:46 PM Author: Light histrionic corner What other flame have I ever posted here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952706) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:01 AM Author: copper double fault stag film the conventional wisdom from career service offices is to not send individual notes after CBs. you send one thank you to the HR person and ask them to send along your thanks to the attorneys you met with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15952882) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:37 AM Author: Light histrionic corner I think the best practice is to send individual thank yous, but group thank you emails are acceptable too. I certainly wouldn't ding anyone for them. I know at least some schools do give this advice though and have received some in the past. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15953388) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 11:40 AM Author: Supple theatre legal warrant well maybe he sent something to hr but your shitty hr person didn't pass along the sentiments. ever consider that? recruiting coordinators are often the most incompetent people in a law firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15955686) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:39 AM Author: spectacular seedy water buffalo national security agency Uh, that is not the conventional wisdom at my CCN. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15953418) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:39 AM Author: Glittery impertinent market gay wizard Save the whales. Save them, goddammit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15953406) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:40 AM Author: Light histrionic corner It's a noble cause for peace-loving hippies, but unfortunately will not get you far in big law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15953443) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:41 AM Author: Glittery impertinent market gay wizard Let's go whale-hugging, yo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15953459) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 8:24 AM Author: out-of-control stage Subject: Lol @: 1) the idea that your eval matters. I write ty notes to the hiring partner and anyone I specif liked. I don't write to the pagro jr associate who took me to a crappy Asian fusion restaurant and told me he was giving me the "unvarnished truth."
2) your unmitigated commitment to the corporatespeak of your firm. You are looking for candidates who go the distance? If 16yo you knew that this is the way you talk even when out of work and anonymous, would he cry?
3) you |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 8:55 AM Author: adventurous milky heaven Who, as a child, said, "When I grow up, I want to be a part of MURDERS and EXECUTIONS an be a corporate whore!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15955044) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 9:28 AM Author: Passionate degenerate perhaps you should ask around your firm and see if you are in fact surrounded by douchebags with thank you note fetishes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15955108) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 11:38 AM Author: Supple theatre legal warrant watch, you'll ding him and the next day a thank-you note on woven artisan paper will arrive with the mail call. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15955669) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 11:44 AM Author: irradiated blathering kitty cat tattoo i would do that but i've always gotten a ty letter, handwritten, mailed from a mailbox near the firm received next day. you sound ugly, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15955719) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2010 12:28 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Slippery Lodge i almost commented that this is one of the worst threads on TLS
then i remembered where i was
then i lamented the fact that this forum has becum so ttt
then i fapped |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 10:22 AM Author: painfully honest center Thank you e-mails seem to be the norm these days. Nevertheless, sending one is a bad idea. Case in point: I was set to submit a positive review for an interviewee when I received from him a poorly written thank you e-mail. I'm sure he thought it was innocuous, but that's only because he doesn't realize he's a bad writer. DING! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15969059) |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 10:24 AM Author: trip voyeur sending one can be a bad idea if you are a shit writer. that doesn't mean a well-written thank you note is a bad idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15969073) |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 10:41 AM Author: painfully honest center The following e-mail won't hurt you, but it won't help you either.
Dear Interviewer,
Thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to interview me. I truly appreciate your candid discussion of [firm] with me. [Insert conspicuously dull sentence attempting to personalize the e-mail based on our discussion.] Based on our discussion, I believe I would be a perfect fit at [firm], and am very excited about the possibility of joining [firm] in the summer of 2011.
Sincerely,
[Interviewee]
I've yet to see any thank you e-mail that improves upon that. |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 9:20 PM Author: Appetizing alpha yeah i'm not sure what i could possibly say other than that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15973658) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 11:13 PM Author: Appetizing alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15991550) |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 10:31 AM Author: stimulating rehab I've interviewed about 15 2Ls for our summer associate program at the call back stage.
Out of that 15, I received 4 email thank you notes (most of which were pretty good and dovetailed with whatever we actually talked about at the interview) and one hand written one which was also pretty good but I struggled a little to figure out which candidate sent it due to handwriting.
I just do the evaluations immediately after the interview or I will forget what I thought about the candidate, so none of these thank you notes affected my evaluations.
Are interviewers actually supposed to respond to thank you notes?
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Date: September 5th, 2010 10:57 AM Author: irradiated blathering kitty cat tattoo yeah you need to thank them for thanking you and ask how their semester is going and offer to take them out to dinner and shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15969231) |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 11:05 AM Author: trip voyeur should the candidate respond with a thank you for thanking me for thanking you note?
when should the gay assfuck chain be formed? |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 12:49 PM Author: irradiated blathering kitty cat tattoo 2 more rounds of thank you'ing.
then you meet in a dark alley and tie your penises together and sing "hotel california" while grinding. |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 8:43 PM Author: stimulating rehab nice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15973397) |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 9:20 PM Author: Appetizing alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15973661) |
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Date: September 5th, 2010 9:21 PM Author: trip voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15973668) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 10:35 AM Author: lilac site partner we are all just prisoners here of our own device (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15994067) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 10:45 AM Author: curious kitchen pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15994122) |
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Date: September 8th, 2010 10:53 AM Author: dashing nighttime native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15994167) |
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Date: September 7th, 2010 11:21 PM Author: Cocky prole space i've always wanted a pen pal! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1413045&forum_id=2#15991616) |