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Hedge fund manager "truly sorry" for 99.8% loss

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102356275 I don't know what that c...
dead juggernaut
  01/21/15
For the record, in Rudolph math it is a 50,000% loss.
smoky hairraiser quadroon
  01/21/15
ouch
dead juggernaut
  01/21/15
That's 1000% right.
Fantasy-prone patrolman
  01/21/15
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insanely creepy awkward lay
  01/21/15
No. Investcorp is PE.
Hairless Galvanic Rehab Wrinkle
  01/21/15
intergalactic NOWAG is alive and well
carnelian diverse church marketing idea
  01/21/15
expected this to be an onion link.
Dashing Ticket Booth
  01/21/15
No worries, he just needs to show a 3000000% return next yea...
Clear kitty cat
  01/21/15
Powerball currently at $142 million lump sum. He can buy 100...
dead juggernaut
  01/21/15
...
insanely creepy awkward lay
  01/21/15
now the question is does that include his 2% managemnent fee...
Startling Community Account Toaster
  01/21/15
of course. you get paid that regardless
bat-shit-crazy stubborn electric furnace
  01/21/15
The guy gambled and lost. That's why people invest in hedge...
Idiotic set sweet tailpipe
  01/21/15
but that's not fair!
chartreuse contagious scourge upon the earth ratface
  01/21/15
This is what I don't get, this should be a fucking celebrati...
Idiotic set sweet tailpipe
  01/21/15
...
cobalt greedy kitchen
  01/21/15
Uh no, people do not invest in hedge funds to lose 99% of th...
Clear kitty cat
  01/21/15
...
insanely creepy awkward lay
  01/21/15
That's actually the first thing I thought of.
Clear kitty cat
  01/21/15
...
insanely creepy awkward lay
  01/21/15
let me get my conclusion out of the way. you are a moron. l...
chartreuse contagious scourge upon the earth ratface
  01/21/15
Let me get the bort consensus out of the way. You fucking su...
Clear kitty cat
  01/21/15
Non-responsive
ocher box office double fault
  01/21/15
non-responsive
Clear kitty cat
  01/21/15
it's not pretty obvious, dipshit a single investment increa...
chartreuse contagious scourge upon the earth ratface
  01/21/15
please stop responding to my posts. You are a dumb faggo...
Clear kitty cat
  01/21/15
maybe if you say pretty please or admit you are a moron ob...
chartreuse contagious scourge upon the earth ratface
  01/21/15
I am a moron Pretty please give a blowjob to your Glock.
Clear kitty cat
  01/21/15
How do you know it had small upside?
ocher box office double fault
  01/21/15
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insanely creepy awkward lay
  01/21/15
CR. tremendous upside with very low probabilities = low expe...
umber boltzmann knife
  01/21/15
except your post is exactly why anne is a moron anne says l...
chartreuse contagious scourge upon the earth ratface
  01/21/15
yes she must have meant low EV
umber boltzmann knife
  01/21/15
No shit they don't invest to lose 99% of the principal. But...
Idiotic set sweet tailpipe
  01/22/15
*loses 99,800,000 of other people's money* *walks away wi...
french reading party range
  01/21/15
...
wild pervert
  01/21/15
To be fair this is nothing compared to the kind of shit that...
Abusive erotic becky
  01/21/15
Explain
Claret appetizing menage roast beef
  01/21/15
This thing blew up pretty quickly and wasn't systemic. Can't...
Abusive erotic becky
  01/21/15
i guess he learned it's harder to do this w/o inside info.
Charismatic Olive Step-uncle's House Therapy
  01/21/15
LJL @ giving Raj Rajaratnam's trader any money JFC Guy...
umber boltzmann knife
  01/21/15
holy shit. how bad must his losses have been to bet everythi...
Bipolar mental disorder potus
  01/21/15
what's the problem with that? galleon group had great return...
Arrogant Pit Liquid Oxygen
  01/21/15
This is true as long as it isnt a ponzi scheme The issue ...
umber boltzmann knife
  01/21/15
Wouldn't be surprised if he stole the money and said he lost...
ocher box office double fault
  01/21/15
lol i thought this was gonna be about some snotty hf manager...
Flesh mischievous place of business locale
  01/21/15
This dude will be going to jail.
Fantasy-prone patrolman
  01/21/15
...
insanely creepy awkward lay
  01/21/15
Update: He did not go to jail
dead juggernaut
  09/30/26
his investors should go to jail for their retardation
avocado jew
  09/30/26
hope he's doing well
fluffy citrine hissy fit business firm
  09/30/26


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Date: January 21st, 2015 2:55 PM
Author: dead juggernaut

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102356275

I don't know what that comes out to in Rudolph maths.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158864)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:25 PM
Author: smoky hairraiser quadroon

For the record, in Rudolph math it is a 50,000% loss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159027)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:30 PM
Author: dead juggernaut

ouch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159052)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:58 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone patrolman

That's 1000% right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159227)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:00 PM
Author: insanely creepy awkward lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158892)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:37 PM
Author: Hairless Galvanic Rehab Wrinkle

No. Investcorp is PE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159481)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:03 PM
Author: carnelian diverse church marketing idea

intergalactic NOWAG is alive and well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158908)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:03 PM
Author: Dashing Ticket Booth

expected this to be an onion link.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158912)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:04 PM
Author: Clear kitty cat

No worries, he just needs to show a 3000000% return next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158916)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:08 PM
Author: dead juggernaut

Powerball currently at $142 million lump sum. He can buy 100k tickets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158934)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:06 PM
Author: insanely creepy awkward lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158925)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:08 PM
Author: Startling Community Account Toaster

now the question is does that include his 2% managemnent fee?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158936)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:15 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy stubborn electric furnace

of course. you get paid that regardless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158985)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:10 PM
Author: Idiotic set sweet tailpipe

The guy gambled and lost. That's why people invest in hedge funds. It's right there in the disclosure that you could lose all of your money. If you're not happy w/ dem 6% returns on your mutual funds and ETFs, you run the risk of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158945)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:27 PM
Author: chartreuse contagious scourge upon the earth ratface

but that's not fair!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159036)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:30 PM
Author: Idiotic set sweet tailpipe

This is what I don't get, this should be a fucking celebration of the current system. It shows why hedge funds are only for accredited investors and people who can handle a major loss like this. But instead we get the fucking JOBS Act trying to let everyone in because "that's not fair!!"

Investing is gambling. You want a chance for big gains, you get a chance for it. We can't guarantee everyone will succeed in the market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159051)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:37 PM
Author: cobalt greedy kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159097)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:35 PM
Author: Clear kitty cat

Uh no, people do not invest in hedge funds to lose 99% of their principal.

This guy obviously invested in something extremely risky with a very small upside.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159081)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:39 PM
Author: insanely creepy awkward lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159111)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:41 PM
Author: Clear kitty cat

That's actually the first thing I thought of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159121)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:45 PM
Author: insanely creepy awkward lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159143)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:43 PM
Author: chartreuse contagious scourge upon the earth ratface

let me get my conclusion out of the way. you are a moron.

let's hear about how you concluded that the upside was 'obviously' 'very small'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159129)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:45 PM
Author: Clear kitty cat

Let me get the bort consensus out of the way. You fucking suck.

HTH

It's pretty obvious that the risk this guy took on was not justified by the potential return.

The only way you lose this much money in such a small amount of time is by betting 100% of your capital on a single investment, which basically violates every fucking rule of responsible investing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159140)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: ocher box office double fault

Non-responsive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159160)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: Clear kitty cat

non-responsive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159165)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:50 PM
Author: chartreuse contagious scourge upon the earth ratface

it's not pretty obvious, dipshit

a single investment increases risk, it doesn't reflect on upside if it tanks or on downside if it quadruples.

btw, you are a moron for thinking it does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159177)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:51 PM
Author: Clear kitty cat

please stop responding to my posts.

You are a dumb faggot whose flame is tiresome.

-Everyone, ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159185)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:55 PM
Author: chartreuse contagious scourge upon the earth ratface

maybe if you say pretty please

or admit you are a moron

obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159211)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:57 PM
Author: Clear kitty cat

I am a moron

Pretty please give a blowjob to your Glock.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159224)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:47 PM
Author: ocher box office double fault

How do you know it had small upside?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159154)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:25 PM
Author: insanely creepy awkward lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159393)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:31 PM
Author: umber boltzmann knife

CR. tremendous upside with very low probabilities = low expected value

Like betting on the Knicks to win the NBA finals right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159441)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:45 PM
Author: chartreuse contagious scourge upon the earth ratface

except your post is exactly why anne is a moron

anne says low upside, you say the opposite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159535)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 5:16 PM
Author: umber boltzmann knife

yes she must have meant low EV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159704)



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Date: January 22nd, 2015 12:41 PM
Author: Idiotic set sweet tailpipe

No shit they don't invest to lose 99% of the principal. But that's always a possibility and always disclosed as such. You also, quite clearly don't know what upside means.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27164129)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:14 PM
Author: french reading party range

*loses 99,800,000 of other people's money*

*walks away with $6,000,000 in salary*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158977)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:15 PM
Author: wild pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158984)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:34 PM
Author: Abusive erotic becky

To be fair this is nothing compared to the kind of shit that caused ITE (see AIG, Bear Stearns, etc)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159067)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:38 PM
Author: Claret appetizing menage roast beef

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159103)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:41 PM
Author: Abusive erotic becky

This thing blew up pretty quickly and wasn't systemic. Can't say that about ITE, and yet those bastards made off with a mint and didn't give a fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159115)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:39 PM
Author: Charismatic Olive Step-uncle's House Therapy

i guess he learned it's harder to do this w/o inside info.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159109)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: umber boltzmann knife

LJL @ giving Raj Rajaratnam's trader any money

JFC

Guy apparently gambled ALL his remaining AUM on short dated out of the money S&P calls banking on a huge run up before christmas

Instead the S&P cratered through mid december and dude lost it all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159162)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:02 PM
Author: Bipolar mental disorder potus

holy shit. how bad must his losses have been to bet everything? he must have been ready to killlself the week before christmas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159248)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:10 PM
Author: Arrogant Pit Liquid Oxygen

what's the problem with that? galleon group had great returns. i would happily give my money to a hedge fund that aggressively used inside information to trade. the risk doesn't fall on the fund investors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159299)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:30 PM
Author: umber boltzmann knife

This is true as long as it isnt a ponzi scheme

The issue is that Raj was the one wheeling and dealing. This dude was just his trade execution monkey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159430)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: ocher box office double fault

Wouldn't be surprised if he stole the money and said he lost it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159164)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:00 PM
Author: Flesh mischievous place of business locale

lol i thought this was gonna be about some snotty hf manager pretending to care about the fact that almost no americans can have houses, families, cars, retirements, decent lives, regular season nfl tickets, or cable tv anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159235)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:03 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone patrolman

This dude will be going to jail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159255)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:27 PM
Author: insanely creepy awkward lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159407)



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Date: September 30th, 2026 2:04 PM
Author: dead juggernaut

Update: He did not go to jail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#50162383)



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Date: September 30th, 2026 2:32 PM
Author: avocado jew

his investors should go to jail for their retardation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#50162417)



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Date: September 30th, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: fluffy citrine hissy fit business firm

hope he's doing well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#50162458)