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Kicking myself at this fuckup during my job interview today

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out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
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Are you interviewing with girls on the Tinder app because ot...
Insanely Creepy Station
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I'm dead serious. It doesn't make me look bad that I don't h...
out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
  04/22/26
nobody has time to construct some matrix of shit like this n...
big stage prole
  04/22/26
Good point, thanks. Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.
out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
  04/22/26
The last time you were applying for jobs you freaked the fuc...
adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease
  04/22/26
Yeah. I guess my job application skills are underdeveloped s...
out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
  04/22/26
You're a very charming person with a great deal of skill and...
adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease
  04/22/26
180 ty
out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
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They decided in the first 5 minutes whether they wanted you ...
purple yarmulke
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Ty. It was a really good convo otherwise. I just feel like h...
out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
  04/22/26
Overthinkin it. It's a job interview not pickup artistry.
adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease
  04/22/26
It's insane that this is the truth I've absolutely bombed in...
Bonkers depressive boistinker
  04/22/26
that's why i hate interviewing people.
Sick space crotch
  04/22/26
Nice. Well, there are another 4 rounds after this one, but I...
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Get a job at McDonald's and then you can say you have to wor...
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That could play well.
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Anyone not doing this isn't trying in 2026
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if it was HR, it doesn't matter. they already screened your ...
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It was the hiring manager, an engineering manager. Good c...
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Odious lodge quadroon
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This is good advice. Just snap back quick with Monday at 2 o...
adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease
  04/22/26
except if you're unemployed, never schedule in the afternoon...
hairraiser bbw library
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I would never voluntarily do anything before noon imo
adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease
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Why's that?
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when i was unemployed i hated waiting around all day for an ...
hairraiser bbw library
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What if I like to stay up til 7 AM poasting and wake up at 2...
out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
  04/22/26
dont you currently have a job?
hairraiser bbw library
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No, my last day was two Fridays ago
out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
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you seem to be handling unemployment well
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Cr, I also do a lot of living IRL but that's not during busi...
out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
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did you say it slowly like the person you were speaking to w...
Sick space crotch
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Not exaggeratedly slowly. I'm just worried about looking lik...
out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
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i'm going to be level with you. if this thread is at all in...
Sick space crotch
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I'll take it!
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Odious lodge quadroon
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You should tell them you have hundreds if not thousands of o...
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i would be so upset if someone told me that. why did you ma...
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expected a FLW or JM thread. i wouldn't sweat it. aren't...
Ruddy round eye
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Lol probably. I think my social skills came across fine, I w...
out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band
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you could always ghost them or reschedule last minute to dem...
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Lmao
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the fuckup was being enough of a faggot to even reply. and y...
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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:41 PM
Author: Erotic avocado windowlicker

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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835961)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Station

Are you interviewing with girls on the Tinder app because otherwise they dont care. Also this is a dumb flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835814)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

I'm dead serious. It doesn't make me look bad that I don't have other interviews scheduled?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835818)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:00 PM
Author: big stage prole

nobody has time to construct some matrix of shit like this nor do they care. you are just a number

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835827)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:06 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Good point, thanks. Maybe I'm worrying about nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835847)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:33 PM
Author: adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease

The last time you were applying for jobs you freaked the fuck out over every little thing and acted like the world was ending. Then you landed on your feet and got a huge raise. If history is any teacher you will be just fine. Just calm your nerves. You are going to get a great job. Keep moving forward and you will be OK. Take a deep breath.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835910)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Yeah. I guess my job application skills are underdeveloped since I'm a tenuremo and this is only my third time applying for jobs. And as you know, I got the first job I applied for right out of college. So I probably have the same amount of aggregate job application experience as a lot of 22yos. And I might be acting like one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835936)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:38 PM
Author: adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease

You're a very charming person with a great deal of skill and experience. Don't sell yourself short. Mind over matter don't sweat the little things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835940)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:41 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

180 ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835951)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: purple yarmulke

They decided in the first 5 minutes whether they wanted you or not, the rest doesn't matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835819)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Ty. It was a really good convo otherwise. I just feel like having an open schedule sent the signal that I'm Weak as a candidate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835823)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:33 PM
Author: adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease

Overthinkin it. It's a job interview not pickup artistry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835913)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:16 PM
Author: Bonkers depressive boistinker

It's insane that this is the truth I've absolutely bombed interviews to the point of palatable embarrassment and have still gotten the offer multiple times

It's a phenotype check and everything else is pure theatrics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835867)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: Sick space crotch

that's why i hate interviewing people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835870)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:21 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Nice. Well, there are another 4 rounds after this one, but I can definitely believe that this was a screening for "are they a real person, telling the truth about their experience, easy to talk to, and not hideously ugly"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835883)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: hyperventilating garnet weed whacker

Get a job at McDonald's and then you can say you have to work around your work schedule at McDonald's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835820)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: big stage prole



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: Ivory corner legal warrant



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

That could play well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835826)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:35 PM
Author: adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease

Anyone not doing this isn't trying in 2026

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835920)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: hairraiser bbw library

if it was HR, it doesn't matter. they already screened your phenotype and they're no longer in control.

next time just give 3 of your most convenient dates and times (Mon at 10, Tuesday at 9, etc), and add "if these don't work let me know and I can try to make something else work."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835822)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:03 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

It was the hiring manager, an engineering manager.

Good call, I'll have a top date/time list on hand for next time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835838)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:04 PM
Author: hairraiser bbw library

if they already want to schedule again, even if it did matter, which it doesn't, you can make up for it in the next interview

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835841)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Very true, thanks. Nothing I can do now but blow them away going forward.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835851)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:10 PM
Author: hairraiser bbw library

ur good bro

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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: Odious lodge quadroon



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease

This is good advice. Just snap back quick with Monday at 2 or Tuesday at 3. Always give someone two options so it's the illusion of choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835927)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: hairraiser bbw library

except if you're unemployed, never schedule in the afternoon. if you're employed its fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835933)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease

I would never voluntarily do anything before noon imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835941)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Why's that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835963)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: hairraiser bbw library

when i was unemployed i hated waiting around all day for an interview.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835979)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:54 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

What if I like to stay up til 7 AM poasting and wake up at 2 PM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835990)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: hairraiser bbw library

dont you currently have a job?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835994)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:57 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

No, my last day was two Fridays ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835998)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: hairraiser bbw library

you seem to be handling unemployment well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49836014)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:17 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Cr, I also do a lot of living IRL but that's not during business hours (other than a trip to Disneyland last week for my musician friend's bday w/ other non-9-to-5ers)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49836058)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:04 PM
Author: Sick space crotch

did you say it slowly like the person you were speaking to was mentally disabled or what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835839)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:05 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Not exaggeratedly slowly. I'm just worried about looking like a Loser for not having any other interviews scheduled, not so worried about the presentation. But this thread is reassuring me that maybe it didn't matter at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835846)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: Sick space crotch

i'm going to be level with you. if this thread is at all indicative of your typical behavior, everyone you've ever encountered knows that you're a beta simp cuck low smv loser "male". hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835850)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:10 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

I'll take it!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835857)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: Odious lodge quadroon



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease

You should tell them you have hundreds if not thousands of other offers. This is not legal advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835937)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:40 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835948)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: Sick space crotch

i would be so upset if someone told me that. why did you make me interrupt my phone posting to talk to you. take one of those offers idc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835973)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:04 PM
Author: Ruddy round eye

expected a FLW or JM thread.

i wouldn't sweat it. aren't all your competitors likely aspie as fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835842)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:08 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Lol probably. I think my social skills came across fine, I was just worried that it might be seen as a red flag for a candidate to not have anything else scheduled with other companies. But this thread is convincing me that it doesn't matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835848)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: Ruddy round eye

you could always ghost them or reschedule last minute to demonstrate your Job Market Value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835854)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:11 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835858)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: Odious lodge quadroon



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:40 PM
Author: adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: Odious lodge quadroon



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:34 PM
Author: Shimmering Fanboi Home

lol, just say you’re available next week and can be flexible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835914)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:34 PM
Author: Shimmering Fanboi Home

BEEP BEEP BEEP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835917)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: french point

*beady eyes narrow* "What did ya have in mind?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835928)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835956)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:40 PM
Author: charismatic alcoholic menage

the fuckup was being enough of a faggot to even reply. and you shouldnt have "kicked" yourself you should have "killed" yourself when you realized this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835947)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

Lmao I really like it here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835954)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease

!!!

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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Odious lodge quadroon



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: Shimmering Fanboi Home



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: Glittery Maroon Ticket Booth

The HR Woman who’s screening you isn’t even telling these details to the actual boss

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835964)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band

It was the hiring manager for the position (a senior Engineering role). But point taken; I'm now convinced I was worried about nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835975)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: Sick space crotch

oh no now the engineers think you're an awkward weirdo with nothing going on. they don't have any experience dealing with that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859582&forum_id=2#49835978)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: out-of-control multi-colored newt elastic band



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: Shimmering Fanboi Home



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Shimmering Fanboi Home



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 9:59 PM
Author: Odious lodge quadroon

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Date: April 22nd, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: adventurous dysfunction mad cow disease



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 9:41 AM
Author: Greedy curious chapel



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