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Biglaw bros: what are your billables so far in January?
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:30 PM Author: Beta brunch Mine are 175, plan to be 185 by Monday (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19848893) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:34 PM Author: soul-stirring carmine heaven dingle berry I don't have a job despite the fact that I went to a prestigious lawl school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19848910) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:10 PM Author: topaz electric church Welcome to Obama's America. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849644) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 11:08 PM Author: 180 lake step-uncle's house jew im on pace for like 130 billable and maybe like 20 pro bono. slow month (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850415) |
Date: January 27th, 2012 6:34 PM Author: Mildly autistic free-loading church building less than half of that. very slow month. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19848911) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:36 PM Author: Beta brunch practice area? vault range? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19848921) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:55 PM Author: Mildly autistic free-loading church building transactional. very good firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849017) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:38 PM Author: dun dashing giraffe trust fund ditto (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19848933) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:45 PM Author: know-it-all duck-like garrison 180 by the time I go home today. 200 by Monday. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19848974) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:46 PM Author: Submissive umber abode karate almost exactly this, except 200 by end of month (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19848980) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:51 PM Author: Beta brunch Practice area? Vault range? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849007) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 7:17 PM Author: know-it-all duck-like garrison Lev fin and structured fin. V15. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849094) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:46 PM Author: pea-brained contagious immigrant parlor Just over 100... need work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19848987) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:57 PM Author: cracking vengeful state About 60 billable work. V 50- V 100. Specialized regulatory compliance. The hours r almost the same as previous januaries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849026) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:38 PM Author: fishy field circlehead no worries about that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849816) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 12:00 AM Author: cracking vengeful state I was very concerned my first january, but it is the regular thing that it dips in january. The rush for some reason comes in mid year. But, i am a bit nervous whenever i spend a few days just surfing the web with nothing to do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850745) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 6:59 PM Author: fragrant underhanded yarmulke 120. on the slow side but don't mind. M&A seems a little slow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849035) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 7:14 PM Author: godawful flatulent space depressive 135, but have an absolute ton to do over the next few days, so should hit 170-175 by the end of the month, including bonus-eligible pro bono hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849084) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 7:16 PM Author: Mildly autistic free-loading church building remember. pro bono only counts if you otherwise hit your minimums. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849092) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 7:17 PM Author: know-it-all duck-like garrison Varies significantly by firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849096) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 7:19 PM Author: Mildly autistic free-loading church building I don't think many firms are excited if you billed 2200 hours, with 700 of that being pro bono. My firm says they count the same....but no one believes them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849102) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 7:19 PM Author: godawful flatulent space depressive We have an upper limit on pro bono that'll count. That's why I said bonus-eligible hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849109) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 7:22 PM Author: Mildly autistic free-loading church building What is it? 200? I assume 2000 hours with 200 pro bono also wouldn't be deemed that great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849122) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 7:23 PM Author: godawful flatulent space depressive It's something like that. It wouldn't be "that great", maybe, but you'd get your bonus and they wouldn't can you (assuming this wasn't every single year). And either way, like I said, not worried about hitting my hours overall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849130) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 12:02 AM Author: Unhinged Stead National Security Agency 2000 billable would be great at my firm, particularly in my group. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850761) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 12:08 AM Author: onyx elite patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850788) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 7:19 PM Author: godawful flatulent space depressive Not worried about hitting my minimums. And it's not a ton of pro bono anyway, maybe 10 hours this month. Just trying to paint a complete picture, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849103) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 7:22 PM Author: Mildly autistic free-loading church building cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849124) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:19 PM Author: Unhinged Stead National Security Agency On pace for 165 billables+20 pro bono/client development. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849703) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:30 PM Author: bat shit crazy stag film queen of the night about 150 or so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849765) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:38 PM Author: fishy field circlehead 188 billable as of today (not counting marketing etc) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849815) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:39 PM Author: useless cocky nibblets 11 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849821) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:40 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle metal station Only faggots keep track of that shit prior to the end of the month. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849823) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:42 PM Author: fishy field circlehead it's not hard when you can press the little button on CDtracker and it shows you your hours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849833) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:46 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle metal station I don't care how easy it is. It is faggotry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849858) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 9:48 PM Author: fishy field circlehead remind me what you do for a living again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19849870) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:50 PM Author: godawful flatulent space depressive With Aderant you don't even have to press a button, it's there on the main screen when you open it up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850314) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:52 PM Author: fishy field circlehead what would the automoton we use to send out the hours memo do with such technology? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850321) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 10:59 PM Author: godawful flatulent space depressive Serious question, what is an hours memo? We definitely don't have those. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850366) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 11:04 PM Author: fishy field circlehead Something they send to all the partners, detailing the associates hours and availability.
we also get quarterly reports, showing our ours per client, billed, unbilled, outstanding amounts owed, realization, etc. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 11:06 PM Author: godawful flatulent space depressive Oh, okay. I am but a lowly associate. Maybe the partners do get those. But it's ridiculously easy for us to keep track of our hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850407) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 12:36 AM Author: fishy field circlehead agreed. it surprises me how many of my fellow assocs are ignorant of this.
oh, and I guarantee that your partners produce this. I just get to see it because I am pretty tight with one partner, but these are ubiquitous in biglaw |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 1:06 AM Author: godawful flatulent space depressive I'm sure they see something similar. I'm very tight with a couple partners (and have been pretty involved in generating budgets as part of pitches), I just don't care enough to delve into this level of detail. I especially don't care about my realization rate; I'm junior enough that I know it's less a reflection of my work quality than clients bitching about paying for junior associates. If my work were getting written off because it's shitty, I'd know about it, and if it's getting written off because clients are cheap, well, that's not a problem at this stage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19851080) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 1:12 AM Author: fishy field circlehead realization matters bro, which sux given how arbitrary it is. avoid writeoff partners like the plague (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19851101) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 1:15 AM Author: godawful flatulent space depressive Oh, I know realization can matter, but it depends on why realization is an issue. It's more writeoff clients that I'm talking about (we have a couple that basically refuse to pay for anyone junior at all, but they're big enough that we put up with it). That's the kind of thing I don't worry about as much.
EDIT: I'm not actually on any of these cases. It's my understanding that my realization is fine. But (to totally make up an example), if Wal-Mart used my firm as their main outside counsel, I'd feel pretty okay as a junior getting staffed on their matters even if my work was getting written off as a matter of policy. |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 11:30 PM Author: orchid costumed legal warrant generalized bond 210 so far. What do I win? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850577) |
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Date: January 27th, 2012 11:31 PM Author: fishy field circlehead MOAR WORK! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850581) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 12:08 AM Author: onyx elite patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850791) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 12:17 AM Author: orchid costumed legal warrant generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19850828) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 1:11 AM Author: Massive stage people who are hurt 220...which is sadly much lower than December. but that's Cuz I've been doing lots of non-billables.
Am billing now as we speak at midnight local time |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 1:17 AM Author: fishy field circlehead you and I are similar bro. I avgd 225/month last year. vlevel/market/yr? |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 1:19 AM Author: Massive stage people who are hurt V60/California/2nd year who just joined after clerking
firm is gangbusters and I'm too eager to please
December added up to 270 billed, 300 total
Jan will probably end up 240 billed, 290 total (working on papers and shit) |
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Date: January 28th, 2012 1:21 AM Author: orchid costumed legal warrant generalized bond You need to learn to turn down work. Partners are not going to be pissed because you only bill 2400 this year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#19851149) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2012 9:33 PM Author: Mind-boggling puce stage Agree with the poster above. After busy year followed by a few bad months (none as bad as your 270), I decided that I needed to start pushing back. I start trying to softpeddle on work when I am on pace for 2200 and have a personal goal to never bill more than 2400 ever.
I am on pace for somewhere between 2300-2350 this year, and I'm really trying to get that down. I feel it's probably better for myself and the firm in the long run, because if they work me too hard I'll just end up quitting before my time. |
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Date: March 2nd, 2012 9:39 PM Author: Deep Chapel Sweet Tailpipe 250 for jan, 230 for feb, too early to tell for march. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#20109242) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2012 9:45 PM Author: Maniacal aqua trailer park Shit got REALLY busy in the last week, amirite? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#20109291) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2012 9:49 PM Author: Deep Chapel Sweet Tailpipe actually yes. i have a good idea as to what ill be billing to for the next two weeks, but i dont know whats happening beyond that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#20109341) |
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Date: March 2nd, 2012 9:41 PM Author: Exhilarant institution 190 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1859543&forum_id=2#20109254) |