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Scorching Fifth Circuit dissent - link

https://x.com/jadler1969/status/1991251392816611498?s=20
Stirring abode
  11/19/25
heres the actual dissent which is a thousand times more 180 ...
Racy Lodge Dopamine
  11/19/25
cr. very xo 2020's poasting twitter images of parts of decis...
useless khaki gaming laptop
  11/19/25
Is Jerry a woman? The first 5 pages are just about the write...
Cocky Fishy Double Fault
  11/19/25
honestly we need to pass legislation to limit judicial opini...
thriller lemon native
  11/19/25
*your legislation has been struck down as a vialation separa...
Bronze fragrant party of the first part
  11/20/25
i love it when I have an old school contract or real propert...
glassy church
  11/20/25
i got an A in fed courts, but can someone explain to me why ...
useless khaki gaming laptop
  11/19/25
3 judge panels are required by statute in certain Voting Rig...
Stirring abode
  11/19/25
ty. next q: how does an active non-sr COA judge end up a 3-j...
useless khaki gaming laptop
  11/19/25
The case goes to the original Dist. J. to whom it was assign...
henna arousing fortuitous meteor
  11/19/25
woah. does any other suit get such procedure?
useless khaki gaming laptop
  11/19/25
Yes--Mostly but not entirely voting and elections related
henna arousing fortuitous meteor
  11/19/25
This is still law bort
gold stage
  11/20/25
...
Geriatric hairless point
  11/19/25
ty
Narrow-minded massive plaza
  11/19/25
Comes off ysff, almost as bad as TSINAH
fantasy-prone water buffalo
  11/19/25
Blistering!
salmon shaky heaven macaca
  11/19/25
"How dare they deny me the opportunity to offer my deep...
Snowy excitant field dingle berry
  11/19/25
It contains tons of thoughtful legal analysis if you’d...
Racy Lodge Dopamine
  11/19/25
Wait, it's a Trump judge the dissent reamed? https://afj....
Stirring abode
  11/19/25
holy shit wtf
useless khaki gaming laptop
  11/19/25
Not only a Trump appointee, but from a highly conservative s...
Stirring abode
  11/19/25
very good point. and it also looks like he hawaii judge'd th...
useless khaki gaming laptop
  11/19/25
He was on the Texas (Civil) SCOTUS for 6 years, so there wou...
henna arousing fortuitous meteor
  11/19/25
Wow. George Soros.
Cocky Fishy Double Fault
  11/19/25
To be fair, 1. Extremely Boomerish dissent. There's no re...
yellow exciting nursing home
  11/19/25
This is about as shocking a statement as you'll see in a &qu...
henna arousing fortuitous meteor
  11/19/25
yep. he also says 20 times that the majesty of law is fraud ...
useless khaki gaming laptop
  11/19/25
This is in the same vein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM...
henna arousing fortuitous meteor
  11/19/25
wow, is this real
useless khaki gaming laptop
  11/19/25
180 autism As he stood in that room describing the handgu...
dashing garnet hairy legs
  11/19/25
i'm reading the berzon concurrence trashing van dyke: htt...
useless khaki gaming laptop
  11/19/25
"If, however, there were a Nobel Prize for Fiction, Jud...
Angry sable legal warrant theater stage
  11/19/25
Wow. I'd love to meet Judge Smith's clerks. Or interview one...
bistre cerebral newt
  11/19/25
as everyone knows, he hires only 1Ls after one semester of g...
Vibrant forum
  11/20/25
I read the first few pages. The complained-of conduct--at le...
henna arousing fortuitous meteor
  11/19/25
I'm sure the opinion is shit but going absolutely BERSERK ov...
Unhinged Knife Brunch
  11/19/25
lol this guy is 180 as shit fuck libs
lime bawdyhouse
  11/19/25
...
motley flushed alpha
  11/20/25
page 16: Second, the other factors, discussed below, are ex...
Unhinged Knife Brunch
  11/19/25
...
Narrow-minded massive plaza
  11/19/25
Fifth Circuit guru says majority op is solid: https://x.c...
Stirring abode
  11/19/25
thanks, raffi!
Light Clown
  11/20/25
Where are we at on this, reddit tranny?
supple drab gas station
  11/22/25
This is THE DEFINITION of "yosemite sam fuming mad"...
pungent ruddy theater giraffe
  11/20/25
the image of this guy driving back from a funeral steaming m...
useless khaki gaming laptop
  11/20/25
This is the type of rage that had to have come in pulsing wa...
pungent ruddy theater giraffe
  11/21/25
https://files.catbox.moe/vf4g73.mp4
Geriatric hairless point
  11/21/25
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/19/jeffrey-brown-texas...
Stirring abode
  11/20/25
the thing is blacks vote 95% dem, so you can never make a po...
Light Clown
  11/20/25
and its also absurd that the court would find an argument th...
Racy Lodge Dopamine
  11/20/25
...
violent razzmatazz organic girlfriend sanctuary
  11/22/25
or without appearing to specifically favor blacks either.
Cruel-hearted business firm
  11/22/25
Favoring blacks and jews is fine. Favoring whites is wrong. ...
Onyx Whorehouse
  11/22/25
...
Light Clown
  11/22/25
i get your point and agree that that's what some people and ...
Cruel-hearted business firm
  11/22/25
Not valid in practice. The only place where adjustments matt...
Onyx Whorehouse
  11/22/25
...
Cruel-hearted business firm
  11/22/25


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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Stirring abode

https://x.com/jadler1969/status/1991251392816611498?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444729)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: Racy Lodge Dopamine

heres the actual dissent which is a thousand times more 180 than that shitty twitter link:

https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/gov.uscourts.txwd_.1150387.1439.0.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444771)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: useless khaki gaming laptop

cr. very xo 2020's poasting twitter images of parts of decisions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444819)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: Cocky Fishy Double Fault

Is Jerry a woman? The first 5 pages are just about the writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444945)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: thriller lemon native

honestly we need to pass legislation to limit judicial opinions to a few pages at most, letting these faggots go on and on is bad for everyone and produces nothing, absolutely nothing, of value

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444826)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 6:25 AM
Author: Bronze fragrant party of the first part

*your legislation has been struck down as a vialation separation of powers. The SCOTUS opinion is 6-2-1 and 800 cumulative pages.*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445612)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: glassy church

i love it when I have an old school contract or real property research project and find these 3 or 4-page opinions from 1921.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49446199)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: useless khaki gaming laptop

i got an A in fed courts, but can someone explain to me why a USDJ is on a 3-judge district court panel with judge smith of the 5th cir?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444830)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: Stirring abode

3 judge panels are required by statute in certain Voting Rights Act cases. Was enacted during the Jim Crow era to reduce the likelihood that some biased southern judge would disregard the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444859)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: useless khaki gaming laptop

ty. next q: how does an active non-sr COA judge end up a 3-judge usdc panel?

does this mean he's disqualified from being in the pool to hear the case in the 5th cir? and disqualified from sitting en banc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444882)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:37 PM
Author: henna arousing fortuitous meteor

The case goes to the original Dist. J. to whom it was assigned plus 2 judges designated by POTUS of the relevant COA, at least one of whom must be a COA judge.

I presume the COA judge would not be on the panel for the appeal. Maybe he could be sitting en banc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444962)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: useless khaki gaming laptop

woah. does any other suit get such procedure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444967)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:43 PM
Author: henna arousing fortuitous meteor

Yes--Mostly but not entirely voting and elections related

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444978)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 2:03 AM
Author: gold stage

This is still law bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445485)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Geriatric hairless point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444987)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: Narrow-minded massive plaza

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445071)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:06 PM
Author: fantasy-prone water buffalo

Comes off ysff, almost as bad as TSINAH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444870)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:13 PM
Author: salmon shaky heaven macaca

Blistering!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444885)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Snowy excitant field dingle berry

"How dare they deny me the opportunity to offer my deep and thoughtful legal analysis!"

First sentence of dissent: "The main winners from Judge Brown's opinion are George Soros and Gavin Newsom."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444901)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:15 PM
Author: Racy Lodge Dopamine

It contains tons of thoughtful legal analysis if you’d bother to read on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445161)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: Stirring abode

Wait, it's a Trump judge the dissent reamed?

https://afj.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Brown-Snapshot-Final.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444919)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: useless khaki gaming laptop

holy shit wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444920)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: Stirring abode

Not only a Trump appointee, but from a highly conservative state with a Senator - Ted Cruz - who's normally very careful about ensuring no libs slip through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444932)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:31 PM
Author: useless khaki gaming laptop

very good point. and it also looks like he hawaii judge'd the biden fraudvax mandate for fed employees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444943)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: henna arousing fortuitous meteor

He was on the Texas (Civil) SCOTUS for 6 years, so there would have been a strong track record of how he rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444992)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:23 PM
Author: Cocky Fishy Double Fault

Wow. George Soros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444926)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:29 PM
Author: yellow exciting nursing home

To be fair,

1. Extremely Boomerish dissent. There's no reason this couldn't have been trimmed down to 20 pages.

2. Having said that, Jerry Smith has been one of the biggest COA > SCOTUS Feeders for decades. Libs might be laughing now, but this guy unironically has the ear of several SCOTUS Justices and he seems EXTREMELY PISSED about how all of this went down, on every level. When this decision inevitably gets appealed to SCOTUS, I'm not sure things will ultimately turn out the way libs are hoping they will. We'll see what unfolds!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444939)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:39 PM
Author: henna arousing fortuitous meteor

This is about as shocking a statement as you'll see in a "scathing" dissent: "I also need to highlight the pernicious judicial misbehavior of U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Vincent Brown."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444968)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: useless khaki gaming laptop

yep. he also says 20 times that the majesty of law is fraud and it's all politics. has any judge said such things in an opinion before?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444976)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: henna arousing fortuitous meteor

This is in the same vein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMC7Ntd4d4c

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444986)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: useless khaki gaming laptop

wow, is this real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445013)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: dashing garnet hairy legs

180 autism

As he stood in that room describing the handgun, it seemed like any second he was going to casually pan to the side and have a bound and gagged shitlib and clinically explain the handgun's firing mechanism as he blows their brains out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445189)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: useless khaki gaming laptop

i'm reading the berzon concurrence trashing van dyke:

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/03/20/23-55805.pdf

where is she wrong? she kinda seems right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445234)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Angry sable legal warrant theater stage

"If, however, there were a Nobel Prize for Fiction, Judge Brown's opinion would be a prime candidate."

I'm going to be thinking about this sentence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444984)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: bistre cerebral newt

Wow. I'd love to meet Judge Smith's clerks. Or interview one or two.

I'd also love to know what the horse-trading there is behind the scenes on this one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444985)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: Vibrant forum

as everyone knows, he hires only 1Ls after one semester of grades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49446658)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:53 PM
Author: henna arousing fortuitous meteor

I read the first few pages. The complained-of conduct--at least the conduct Judge Smith is leading with--is that the majority didn't let him see a draft of their opinion until shortly before they issued it (with a note that Judge Smith would be appending a dissent).

That's it? That's his first and best argument? Who cares?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49444998)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: Unhinged Knife Brunch

I'm sure the opinion is shit but going absolutely BERSERK over drafting practices that the general public doesn't give a shit about dramatically undermines his dissent.

He sounds like some lawyer who brought in biglaw as co-counsel because he couldn't handle the case and is MAF that they filed the MSJ without getting all his edits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445058)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: lime bawdyhouse

lol this guy is 180 as shit

fuck libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445016)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:32 AM
Author: motley flushed alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445419)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Unhinged Knife Brunch

page 16: Second, the other factors, discussed below, are extraordinarily week [sic] in this case.

Also page 16: If this were a law school exam, the opinion would deserve an “F.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445063)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: Narrow-minded massive plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445072)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: Stirring abode

Fifth Circuit guru says majority op is solid:

https://x.com/RMFifthCircuit/status/1991174150615081310

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445339)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Light Clown

thanks, raffi!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445885)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: supple drab gas station

Where are we at on this, reddit tranny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49451685)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 1:17 AM
Author: pungent ruddy theater giraffe

This is THE DEFINITION of "yosemite sam fuming mad".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49445480)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: useless khaki gaming laptop

the image of this guy driving back from a funeral steaming maf is hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49446187)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: pungent ruddy theater giraffe

This is the type of rage that had to have come in pulsing waves. He'd start to calm down -- put down his pen, drawl out a "he's just a fucking fag, into that whole 'perry crew' cocaine and arthouses and experimental gay sex 'thing', fuck 'im" -- and then he'd pick up to finish off a footnote and something would set him off and he'd be back up to yelling at the clerks to tie some fishing line around a dildo "so we can lure that little poofter in here and teach him some fucking manners."

I at least credit his clerks for getting him to remove all the anti-trans slurs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49449379)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 7:58 AM
Author: Geriatric hairless point

https://files.catbox.moe/vf4g73.mp4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49449172)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Stirring abode

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/19/jeffrey-brown-texas-redistricting-00660068

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49446088)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: Light Clown

the thing is blacks vote 95% dem, so you can never make a politically driven redistricting without it appearing to target blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49446192)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: Racy Lodge Dopamine

and its also absurd that the court would find an argument that GOP is intentionally forgoing seats in favor of being able to racially discriminate persuasive. at absolutely no level of the party that makes choices about redistricting is a single person thinking this, and everyone knows it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49446200)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: violent razzmatazz organic girlfriend sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49451675)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted business firm

or without appearing to specifically favor blacks either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49451709)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: Onyx Whorehouse

Favoring blacks and jews is fine. Favoring whites is wrong. Read the constitution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49451723)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: Light Clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49451791)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted business firm

i get your point and agree that that's what some people and judges think.

i just wanted to add that when you adjust a district to make it more likely that a black will be elected, you are simultaneously making it harder for blacks to get elected in adjoining districts and are making black votes less powerful in the adjoining districts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49451824)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: Onyx Whorehouse

Not valid in practice. The only place where adjustments matter politically is in the 45-55% range. If you take a group's voice from 25 to 20% or 15 to 25%, it doesn't matter for that group's electoral results. Same if you increase their representation from 60 to 65%.

Where you can get in trouble, however, is when you try to over-optimize your safe seats by giving yourself 55% in a bunch of districts, putting the opponent into a single 95% district. That may be optimal some years, but every now and then an electoral shift comes along, and all of your 55% seats turn into 49ers, and the other side shoots the moon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49451900)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2#49452019)