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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Dull toaster
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Vengeful garrison
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Blue Talented Whorehouse Roommate
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Vengeful garrison
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Blue Talented Whorehouse Roommate
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Razzle-dazzle Pit Electric Furnace
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
out-of-control deer antler corner
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Vengeful garrison
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
House-broken selfie preventive strike
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
anal domesticated school idiot
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
painfully honest windowlicker travel guidebook
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Vengeful garrison
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
painfully honest windowlicker travel guidebook
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
painfully honest windowlicker travel guidebook
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Vengeful garrison
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Racy Fiercely-loyal Kitty Kitchen
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Vengeful garrison
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Vengeful garrison
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Vengeful garrison
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Cerebral location clown
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
sienna dopamine
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
House-broken selfie preventive strike
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Vengeful garrison
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Dull toaster
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Vengeful garrison
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Sepia Floppy Friendly Grandma Circlehead
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Cheese-eating mentally impaired station
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
spectacular green principal's office
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Dull toaster
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Translucent Address
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Vengeful garrison
  06/26/25
...
swollen tanning salon
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Vivacious Pozpig
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
fragrant office
  06/26/25
...
galvanic impertinent home
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
claret stock car
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Naked Outnumbered Stead Ape
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Ungodly well-lubricated hospital affirmative action
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Vengeful garrison
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Naked Outnumbered Stead Ape
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Vengeful garrison
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
House-broken selfie preventive strike
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
anal domesticated school idiot
  06/27/25
...
Vengeful garrison
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
passionate crystalline space organic girlfriend
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Naked Outnumbered Stead Ape
  06/27/25
...
diverse grizzly pisswyrm
  06/27/25
...
Vengeful garrison
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Ungodly well-lubricated hospital affirmative action
  06/27/25
How is STB?
anal domesticated school idiot
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Ocher persian
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
House-broken selfie preventive strike
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Vivacious Pozpig
  06/27/25
...
Garnet lodge generalized bond
  06/27/25
...
House-broken selfie preventive strike
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Dull toaster

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Blue Talented Whorehouse Roommate

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Blue Talented Whorehouse Roommate

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Pit Electric Furnace

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: out-of-control deer antler corner

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Vengeful garrison

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: House-broken selfie preventive strike

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: anal domesticated school idiot

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: painfully honest windowlicker travel guidebook

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: painfully honest windowlicker travel guidebook

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: painfully honest windowlicker travel guidebook

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Racy Fiercely-loyal Kitty Kitchen

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Cerebral location clown

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: sienna dopamine

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: House-broken selfie preventive strike

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Dull toaster

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Sepia Floppy Friendly Grandma Circlehead

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Cheese-eating mentally impaired station

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: spectacular green principal's office

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Dull toaster

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Translucent Address

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: swollen tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Vivacious Pozpig

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: fragrant office

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: galvanic impertinent home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: claret stock car

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Naked Outnumbered Stead Ape

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Ungodly well-lubricated hospital affirmative action

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Vengeful garrison

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Naked Outnumbered Stead Ape

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Vengeful garrison

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: House-broken selfie preventive strike

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: anal domesticated school idiot

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Vengeful garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: passionate crystalline space organic girlfriend

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Naked Outnumbered Stead Ape

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: diverse grizzly pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Vengeful garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Ungodly well-lubricated hospital affirmative action

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: anal domesticated school idiot

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Ocher persian

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: House-broken selfie preventive strike

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Vivacious Pozpig

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Garnet lodge generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: House-broken selfie preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)