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Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:55 PM Author: Alcoholic Theater Stage Old Irish Cottage # of 2L participants (including transfers): ~400 # of 2L's who got at least 1 offer: ~270 (67.5%) V10 Placement: 77 (19.25%)
For comparison, 2006 stats: # of 2L participants (including transfers): ~400 # of 2L's who got at least 1 offer: ~390 (97.5%) V10 Placement: 134 (33.5%)
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Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:58 PM Author: big low-t area link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795843) |
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Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:59 PM Author: Alcoholic Theater Stage Old Irish Cottage TLS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795865) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 3:23 AM Author: Unholy Point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797425) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:02 AM Author: arousing hot garrison love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795913) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:03 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Balding Milk just posting what i saw on tls. i cannot vouch for the accuracy of the data, but it seems like it's reliable so whatevs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795939) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:04 AM Author: arousing hot garrison love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795947) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:35 AM Author: Narrow-minded son of senegal
Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:03 AM Author: OperaSoprano
just posting what i saw on tls. i cannot vouch for the accuracy of the data, but it seems like it's reliable so whatevs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795939)
forget to change monikers? |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:17 AM Author: Galvanic private investor school cafeteria This is right. Ill add that V25 made 331 offers of which 135 were accepted, so about half the offers accepted but lots of offers concentrated within the top 1/3. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796125) |
Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:59 PM Author: irate high-end theater That's still pretty respectable. I wonder how much worse NYU's placement was. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795870) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:08 AM Author: elite menage background story they jiggered their grades last year. i bet it was better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796002) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 10:44 AM Author: jet-lagged partner stage Actually we just had the EIW thing yesterday too. 70% of the class received at least one offer through EIW, so we did slightly better overall than Columbia with a larger class. However, they didn't break down firm ranges for us. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798264) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:06 AM Author: doobsian sapphire telephone center These numbers seem awfully high. I thought the consensus on here was that the % of students with offers at both schools was around 50-60% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798447) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:10 AM Author: jet-lagged partner stage I thought it was pretty high too, but that's what Career Services gave us. It would mean more if they broke it down a bit like CLS did as to what percentage went to which type of firm, etc.
They expect this year to be better than last year. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:01 PM Author: doobsian sapphire telephone center Does it seem like these numbers are consistent with what you've heard from the 2Ls? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800245) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:05 PM Author: jet-lagged partner stage I don't know a ton of 2Ls. The ones I do know are at V20 firms this summer, so it's not representative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800288) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:23 AM Author: Galvanic private investor school cafeteria They didn't tell us exactly how many students got at least one offer- just how many accepted. A few firms didn't provide data either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798574) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:02 PM Author: jet-lagged partner stage for NYU? or for Columbia? because for NYU I'm looking at it and it says "70% of the 2L class reported receiving at least 1 offer for summer employment from an employer with whom they interviewed at EIW."
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 4:18 PM Author: Galvanic private investor school cafeteria CLS. Just has a table with "Total Offers Given" and "Total Accepted," for each firm. They didn't even bother to add them up on the Excel spreadsheet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14801500) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:27 PM Author: irate high-end theater Impressive. Did they mention anything about how grade cutoffs changed as a result of the new curve and crappy economy? They used to use 3.5 and 3.3 as general cutoffs for higher and mid tier firms, respectively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799860) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:04 PM Author: jet-lagged partner stage yea they said 3.3-3.49 is still the vast majority of firms, and that for 3.5 and above there are historically 10 firms but that like 16 or 17 other firms (that number may be off by a bit) kicked their hiring up into 3.5 or above, but that over half of those that did ended up getting no accepts by NYU students that they offered to.
So consensus seems to be that probably like 15-18 firms I guess will continue to look for 3.5 and above, but otherwise many of those firms will kick back down to 3.3-3.49 if they want to get any NYU students. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:16 PM Author: irate high-end theater 16 or 17 additional firms? Jesus.
Was Latham NY among these 3.5 firms? |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:58 PM Author: jet-lagged partner stage I don't remember. I don't think so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800740) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:00 AM Author: Alcoholic Theater Stage Old Irish Cottage whatever it is, puts a lot of ITE bloodbath speculation to rest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795891) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 10:17 AM Author: Bistre site liquid oxygen Tell that to the 100+ CLS students that failed to land a job in 2009 who would have been successful in 2006. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806879) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:08 AM Author: Alcoholic Theater Stage Old Irish Cottage #s are really impressive i tihnk. Top 20% for V10? sign me up. Top 70% or so for biglaw? well done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795999) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:09 AM Author: arousing hot garrison love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796015) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:10 AM Author: Alcoholic Theater Stage Old Irish Cottage well it was fucked compared to previous years. but i think C ITE is doing better than how MVP did pre-ITE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796037) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 8:52 AM Author: spectacular soggy pozpig rigpig um no. 80+% got something from OCI pre-ITE @ our MVP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797941) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:11 AM Author: irate high-end theater tbf, I'm sure at least some of those offers came from below market firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796052) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:12 AM Author: arousing hot garrison love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796063) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 9:55 AM Author: Cracking avocado piazza crotch no. what below market firms recruit at columbia? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798055) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:29 PM Author: irate high-end theater Serious question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799888) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:09 AM Author: Galvanic private investor school cafeteria We don't know the deferral rates yet though. CS told us to go check ATL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796014) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 3:18 AM Author: nubile cuck laser beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797411) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 10:46 AM Author: Galvanic private investor school cafeteria Not her. Do you really think a chick like that would poast on a site like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798285) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:35 AM Author: Kink-friendly trip persian rigor how many 1L Kent scholars were there last year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796357) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:43 AM Author: Titillating set nibblets That's not quite right for '06. Again, 388 was the number of accepted offers, which presumably double-counts people who split. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796887) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:42 AM Author: Topaz cruise ship hairy legs From CLS --> TTT all within one year of OCI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797283) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:38 AM Author: Wild Lime Base that confirms that hiring dropped off way more at lower-ranked firms than at V10 type places
btw there's a sizable contingent of each year's class that doesn't participate in eip. there's even a facebook group for it. probably like 20-25 people per year, including some on LR. dunno whether your ~400 participants number accounts for this. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:50 AM Author: Blue talented range It probably does (if inadvertently), since the total number of students, including transfers, is probably at least 420. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798824) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:56 PM Author: onyx misanthropic dopamine more than that. i think our year was 380+ pre-transfer. and something like 60-70 transfers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799537) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:30 PM Author: irate high-end theater True, though nalp numbers alone pretty much establish this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799896) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 10:03 AM Author: aquamarine school idea he suggested this is not really true. you can look at nalp for confirmation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806865) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 4:20 PM Author: bearded temple EIP and EIW include below market firms as well as some government agencies and consulting firms. There were more of these in 2009 than in past years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14801533) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 6:51 PM Author: Abusive harsh windowlicker For EIP, the "offers accepted" numbers show zero for gov. agencies (some may have accepted, but they aren't counted in the totals because a few of the agencies didn't provide numbers). Also, only one person accepted a consulting gig from EIP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14802956) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 9:32 AM Author: Blue talented range How many total firms/agencies were there? In '06 there were 335, including each office separately. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806840) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:06 PM Author: rambunctious indian lodge lettuce IIRC ~260 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14807321) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 9:58 AM Author: Burgundy hairless multi-billionaire 30% no job from interviews at NYU/CLS is a bloodbath.... what are you guys talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806864) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 10:18 AM Author: Bistre site liquid oxygen Exactly. That's 100+ students at each school who would have cruised into big firm jobs 3 years ago. From the perspective of a potential student, 70% is great and likely worth sticker.
From the perspective of a law student, it's shocking. It's 1 in every 3 people you know have a serious wrench thrown into their career and debt management plan. |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:01 PM Author: rambunctious indian lodge lettuce Of course it's a blood bath, but we already knew that before the numbers came out. Many had predicted it was much worse, given the anecdotal reports. Thus, the numbers are surprisingly good to some people on here [not me, they are exactly what I expected]. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14807289) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:09 PM Author: Histrionic mischievous nursing home definitely thought theyd be a lot worse. my estimation was 50% at CCN, 30% MVPD, worse for lower.
so im guessing we can revise those numbers upward?
80-100% (of those who did EIW) at HYS 70% at CCN 50% at MVPDB 30% at GNC
I dont think Berkeley should be that high. The combination of a shitty grading system, fewer east coast firms attending, and traditionally placing in the west coast (which was one of hte most hard hit) probably means they are a good bit lower than 50%, but that's just IMO. |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:10 PM Author: Provocative Cordovan Stag Film I have several 3L friends who STILL have no employment lined up. Graduation is in 3 weeks. These kids are in serious trouble.
I cannot imagine the disaster that awaits the class of 2011. Not all of the 140 jobless 2Ls are going to be able to find someting in public interest.
And this is CLS/NYU. I imagine 2Ls in schools 10-20 are well and truly fucked.
Maybe this will dramatically reduce law school applications?
I mean... holy fuck. |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:12 PM Author: rambunctious indian lodge lettuce "Maybe this will dramatically reduce law school applications?"
*snorts*
tyft |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 1:40 PM Author: Provocative Cordovan Stag Film yeah. fair. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808097) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 1:34 PM Author: cocky multi-colored gas station Subject: lol what kind of a douche gunner runs home from the EIP Orientation meeting and posts these stats? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808049) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 1:53 PM Author: Zippy pocket flask Me. As for the douche gunner part, see:
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1279494&mc=54&forum_id=2 |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 2:37 PM Author: cocky multi-colored gas station no one cares. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808470) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 3:16 PM Author: Zippy pocket flask Apparently SOMEBODY cares: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&mc=57&forum_id=2#14795798 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808737) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 3:39 PM Author: Histrionic mischievous nursing home since when is posting stats from school considered gunnerism? shouldnt a gunner be memorizing their 1000 page outline instead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808941) |
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Date: April 24th, 2010 3:41 PM Author: cocky multi-colored gas station no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808955) |
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Date: April 25th, 2010 1:30 PM Author: snowy swollen jap step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14816793) |