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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:32 PM Author: bistre wonderful lodge *works 180 days a year, from 8-3 p.m.*
*makes $90,000-plus with sweet benefits AND pension*
http://projects.mcall.com/teacher_pay/rankings/ave_salary/1/1/ (keep in mind those figures are 3+ years old) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:41 PM Author: Balding soul-stirring heaven To be fair, 8-3 is roughly contract hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809837) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:12 PM Author: gaped apoplectic roommate useless brakes http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/589006-pain-testicals.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810116) |
Date: August 17th, 2010 12:35 PM Author: Vivacious field mad-dog skullcap so......
u mad? |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:36 PM Author: bistre wonderful lodge yeah, property taxes are through the roof. meanwhile these greedy assholes threaten strike every time their contract comes up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809796) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:39 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry Property taxes? No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809820) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:39 PM Author: bistre wonderful lodge yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809825) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:42 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry Not really. I live here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809848) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:46 PM Author: bistre wonderful lodge yeah, really, i do too. know a ton of ppl moving outta Council Rock b/c they cant afford the taxes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809882) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:47 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry They probably can't afford to live there in the first place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809892) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:54 PM Author: bistre wonderful lodge some of these ppl have lived there for 25+ years. they have more of a right to be there than these upstart couples moving in with 5 kids, forcing everyone else to pay for their child's lavish education (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809952) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:57 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry If they are complaing about paying a lousy $5-7k a year in property taxes on their $350k house, then they can't afford to live there and should probably just move. There are plenty of people who can afford the property taxes who would happily take the property off their hands. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809977) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:04 PM Author: Arousing Keepsake Machete Office spoken like a main line douche bag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810055) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:05 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry If you can't afford a lousy $500 a month for property taxes, you're a poor and can't really afford to live there. Sorry, but it's true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810071) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:08 PM Author: stimulating confused hissy fit newt that's a shitload of money in property taxes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810088) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:08 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry Umm, not really, and if you think it is, go move to Southwest Philly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810095) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:12 PM Author: bistre wonderful lodge it's the principal. why should they be paying so teachers can get rich? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810111) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:12 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry $90k is hardly rich and probably can't be had until one has been teaching for a number of years. It's not like college grads are coming out and getting $90k teaching gigs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810114) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:24 PM Author: Turquoise Toaster Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810194) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:25 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry $350k assessed is a $600-650k house. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810206) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:25 PM Author: Turquoise Toaster Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810211) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:28 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry You have no idea what you're talking about. Do some research first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810241) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:43 PM Author: Arousing Keepsake Machete Office Actually, yes. Property taxes to support school districts are pretty bad. The high pay for teachers has not yielded much brainpower in the legislature, so they haven't come up with a solution to property tax relief yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809854) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:43 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry I live in one of the most upscale towns in PA (Main Line) and the property taxes aren't that bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809861) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:44 PM Author: Arousing Keepsake Machete Office People in the Main Line -- and certainly across PA -- disagree with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809868) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:45 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry My folks live in a $950k house and pay about $17k a year in property taxes. They aren't that high. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809874) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:25 PM Author: Turquoise Toaster Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810207) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:28 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry LOL YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AT ALL! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810245) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:32 PM Author: Turquoise Toaster Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810270) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:33 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry http://www.trulia.com/property/3024678052-738-Canterbury-Ln-Villanova-PA-19085
Year Value Land Improvements Total Tax 2010 Assessed $212,500 + $418,100 = $630,600 $17,516 (2009)
You have no idea what you're talking about and probaby don't live here at all. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:35 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry http://www.trulia.com/property/3013301789-516-Craig-Ln-Villanova-PA-19085
Year Value Land Improvements Total Tax 2010 Assessed $215,270 + $345,880 = $561,150 $15,586 (2009)
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:38 PM Author: Turquoise Toaster Property
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:40 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry That's really a $1.6 million house selling for $1.2 million. Property taxes on a home that has a true value of $900-950k in Lower Merion township will have property taxes of $16-18k, not $25k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810318) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:43 PM Author: Turquoise Toaster Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810334) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:44 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry If you're paying $2k a month in property taxes, the home is worth (or should be worth) around $1.5 million. In this market, you can find a $900k house selling for $750k or so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810344) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:46 PM Author: Turquoise Toaster Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810351) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:49 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry Don't buy Main Line then. Go look for something better in Blue Bell or something out in Devon, Wayne, Berwyn, Malvern. Also, why in such a hurry to buy an expensive home? Have you made equity partner already? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810370) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:53 PM Author: Turquoise Toaster Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810402) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:56 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry So you make over $250k a year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810423) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:58 PM Author: Turquoise Toaster Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810436) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:38 PM Author: Glittery Dingle Berry The assessed value is a totally seperate number from the actual home value. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810303) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:38 PM Author: Turquoise Toaster Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810308) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 2:16 PM Author: carnelian maniacal faggotry dilemma "My folks live in a $950k house and pay about $17k a year in property taxes. They aren't that high."
You mean somewhere around double what they would be in Scottsdale for a similarly priced house? |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:37 PM Author: Appetizing sepia resort pervert not to nitpick but I'm pretty sure teachers don't just show up when school starts and take the bus home at 3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809802) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:38 PM Author: bistre wonderful lodge mine did. of course, teh law profs were even worse. they'd get all bitchy if u came to see them during their rare office hours b/c they were trying to prepare for class (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809812) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:37 PM Author: Passionate alpha cumskin all teachers should get paid like this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809804) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:39 PM Author: At-the-ready Fuchsia Shrine Azn but then you have to be in pennsylvania. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15809821) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:01 PM Author: Metal Beady-eyed Church yeah, man, the 5th biggest city in the country is all uniformly pretty awful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810022) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:06 PM Author: At-the-ready Fuchsia Shrine Azn who cares, it's an ugly city with shitty weather and niggers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810078) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 2:22 PM Author: Metal Beady-eyed Church you could say the same about NYC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810592) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:02 PM Author: Metal Beady-eyed Church my math teacher was head of the union and a real stickler for coming in at 7:30 and leaving at 3. He made in the upper 5 figures and was awaiting a 75% salary pension for the rest of his life after retirement, with full benefits.
Pretty amazing life, imho.
(note: I didn't go to Masterman, fyi) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:11 PM Author: fear-inspiring famous landscape painting I'm not getting worked up about this.
Yes, they're overpaid, but the problem with the US economy isn't middle class types being overpaid. Complaining about this will just create more downward pressure on middle class wages, at a time when middle class worker in the private sector are underpaid as it is.
The main problem with wages in the US is the top 1% and especially .1% who are screwing this country left and right. That is what people should be bitching about. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:13 PM Author: bistre wonderful lodge you can say that about almost any issue - "oh we got bigger problems to deal with". and then nothing gets done (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810121) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:16 PM Author: fear-inspiring famous landscape painting Complaining about this will only cause more downward pressure on wages for the middle class. It will make the main problem, the 1% screwing everyone else over, worse.
Since IMO complaining about this makes the true wage crisis in the US worse, I'm not going to engage in it. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 2:03 PM Author: Glassy Church Building so wait, allowing the middle class teachers to screw over middle class workers in the private sector will make us better off? it's not like this money comes straight from the top income percentile. even if it did a lower tax rate on the middle class would be preferable to excessive salaries for those lazy fucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810468) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:14 PM Author: purple crusty hell juggernaut the problem with the US is that in past decades, some simpleton from Southeast Kentucky state could get this job and make this kind of money and not be a very good teacher. The problem they just aren't very good. So like everything else the schools are failures and a welfare apparatus for an entrenched group of underperformers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15810127) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 1:48 PM Author: ebony persian scourge upon the earth The problem is to a large extent, middle class UNION types being overpaid in benefits and pensions relative to private sector workers.
PA and NJ and NY are all big offenders because of unions. |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 6:13 PM Author: Supple filthpig what's the solution - pay them much less? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1398043&forum_id=2#15812184) |