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Fatal flaw in Epstein: if he ever used any of the info he gather he’d be toxic

like if it Bill Richardson wouldn’t play ball and vide...
Sienna immigrant nursing home
  02/14/22
How would anyone know it was even Epstein's footage, or that...
fighting idiotic stage
  02/14/22
Presumably Richardson would say so
Adulterous vengeful puppy
  02/14/22
All Richardson would know is that Epstein hooked him up with...
fighting idiotic stage
  02/14/22
because there would be a backstory and the location of the i...
Sienna immigrant nursing home
  02/15/22
it wasnt his operation. he was just a cog in a giant worldwi...
sick philosopher-king
  02/14/22
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Mentally Impaired Mildly Autistic Community Account
  02/14/22
not relevant. if the beneficiaries of his operation ever use...
Sienna immigrant nursing home
  02/14/22
There are always enough ppl willing to do anything to get &q...
sick philosopher-king
  02/14/22
cr
Clear very tactful brunch rigpig
  02/14/22
jfc
Sienna immigrant nursing home
  02/15/22
i'm no expert but i thought you keep 99% of it in reserve an...
concupiscible casino liquid oxygen
  02/14/22
"kike casino machine" is the proper defined term
Costumed Faggot Firefighter Den
  02/14/22
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Irradiated garrison twinkling uncleanness
  02/14/22
"Epstein" wouldn't be doing the blackmailing.
Mentally Impaired Mildly Autistic Community Account
  02/14/22
same argument applies to Mossad or whoever would be
Sienna immigrant nursing home
  02/14/22
Oh yeah, the truth would all come to light after Bill Richar...
Appetizing Slippery Becky
  02/14/22
"The flaw with nuclear weapons is that once you use the...
Well-lubricated Fear-inspiring Boiling Water
  02/14/22
great analogy
sick philosopher-king
  02/14/22
Really?
Well-lubricated Fear-inspiring Boiling Water
  02/14/22
Yep. There's theories actually that "nuclear weapons...
sick philosopher-king
  02/14/22
Your personal take?
Well-lubricated Fear-inspiring Boiling Water
  02/14/22
As far whether nukes actually exist? I have no idea, but the...
sick philosopher-king
  02/14/22
This makes zero sense. It requires that countries spend bill...
fighting idiotic stage
  02/14/22
"It requires the the people doing the blackmailing neve...
sick philosopher-king
  02/14/22
...
aphrodisiac unholy crackhouse
  02/14/22
...
sick philosopher-king
  02/14/22
Tell that to the USA and Japan
Sienna immigrant nursing home
  02/15/22
the costs to the "bill richardson" character for t...
exciting brindle range keepsake machete
  02/14/22
they'd never have to use it. just the threat of doing so wou...
Crusty claret locus
  02/14/22
exactly. its mutually assured destruction. it's the only way...
sick philosopher-king
  02/14/22
The threat to release the tape to family members would be us...
Stimulating set
  02/14/22
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Mlk-unco...
Stimulating set
  02/14/22
Wow didnt know about this, ty.
sick philosopher-king
  02/14/22
FBI was way worse in the 60s/70s than anything they have don...
Stimulating set
  02/14/22
Disagree. They've just devised better ways to keep things un...
sick philosopher-king
  02/14/22
They just killed Malcolm X daughter, days after his killer w...
fighting idiotic stage
  02/14/22
He spelled 'behavior' in the first sentence in a way that ma...
Well-lubricated Fear-inspiring Boiling Water
  02/14/22
yes, he would never use it himself, what's your point?
Clear very tactful brunch rigpig
  02/14/22
I'd still like to know what "He belongs to intelligence...
vigorous goal in life hospital
  02/14/22
Acute lacks of curiosity are the worst kind
Adulterous vengeful puppy
  02/14/22
this part is hardly a mystery
Sienna immigrant nursing home
  02/15/22
The [unnamed federal] prosecutor said that it was clear that...
vigorous goal in life hospital
  02/14/22
Can't you see Bob, that's the beauty of the whole thing! Now...
vigorous goal in life hospital
  02/14/22
Francis DeGraumont. I know that name. He's a vendor. We us...
vigorous goal in life hospital
  02/14/22
I didn't have anything to do with it! Then who did? I don'...
vigorous goal in life hospital
  02/14/22
He's a vendor, he provides services that certain people feel...
vigorous goal in life hospital
  02/14/22
Btw the CIA are allowed to recruit foreign visitors to the U...
vigorous goal in life hospital
  02/14/22
I think the operation, as alleged, would be more subtle than...
Outnumbered confused bbw
  02/14/22
agree with the first paragraph. but it was way too smooth...
exciting brindle range keepsake machete
  02/14/22
Sure, but I'm saying it wasn't Epstein and Maxwell showing u...
Outnumbered confused bbw
  02/15/22
oh absolutely -- agreed. and maxwell was even posting on sy...
exciting brindle range keepsake machete
  02/15/22
not only did she poast, but she had one of the highest karma...
sick philosopher-king
  02/15/22
Isn't it obvious that Ghislaine was Epstein's handler? She i...
ruby swashbuckling water buffalo whorehouse
  02/14/22
Bullshit she’s being sentenced in June
Sienna immigrant nursing home
  02/15/22
Her conviction got thrown out.
Appetizing Slippery Becky
  02/15/22
do you know what a cabal is
submissive patrolman
  02/15/22
how does it matter? what billionaire wants to be exposed as ...
Heady smoky electric furnace
  02/15/22
...
wine market hairy legs
  07/18/25
this is the point Mike Benz pushes, but even if it holds wat...
Cerebral Coral Bawdyhouse Reading Party
  07/18/25


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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:49 PM
Author: Sienna immigrant nursing home

like if it Bill Richardson wouldn’t play ball and video of him fucking a 14-year-old at Epstein’s ranch emerged as a result then nobody would ever associate with Epstein again which would destroy his entire honeypot operation. discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965838)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:19 PM
Author: fighting idiotic stage

How would anyone know it was even Epstein's footage, or that he had any role in leaking it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43966006)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:09 PM
Author: Adulterous vengeful puppy

Presumably Richardson would say so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968222)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 9:50 PM
Author: fighting idiotic stage

All Richardson would know is that Epstein hooked him up with the girl. He wouldn't know whether Epstein was directly complicit in any other aspect of the operation. For all he knows they have Epstein's nuts in a vice too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968743)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: Sienna immigrant nursing home

because there would be a backstory and the location of the incident would be widely reported on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43970975)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:50 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king

it wasnt his operation. he was just a cog in a giant worldwide machine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965844)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:51 PM
Author: Mentally Impaired Mildly Autistic Community Account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965851)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:52 PM
Author: Sienna immigrant nursing home

not relevant. if the beneficiaries of his operation ever used any of the info then the operation would be undermined

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965854)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king

There are always enough ppl willing to do anything to get "power". And i mean ANYTHING. Going to his island was one of the only ways to get access to a certain level of "elite" that you otherwise wouldnt be able to (unless you are born into it).

Most who went knew what was going on, they WANTED to become blackmailable, in order to get access to the club.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965872)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 6:00 PM
Author: Clear very tactful brunch rigpig

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43967605)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: Sienna immigrant nursing home

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43970979)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:56 PM
Author: concupiscible casino liquid oxygen

i'm no expert but i thought you keep 99% of it in reserve and on the rare occasion you need to play a card you have someone other than Epstein do a "concern troll" on the patsy.

"Bill Richardson, I know that you're getting a lot of heat about the upcoming vote. People are saying nasty things. Someone even told me that there's video of you and an underage girl fucking on some island. All I care about is your vote ..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965891)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:53 PM
Author: Costumed Faggot Firefighter Den

"kike casino machine" is the proper defined term

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965864)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:36 PM
Author: Irradiated garrison twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43967515)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:51 PM
Author: Mentally Impaired Mildly Autistic Community Account

"Epstein" wouldn't be doing the blackmailing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965848)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:52 PM
Author: Sienna immigrant nursing home

same argument applies to Mossad or whoever would be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965856)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:35 PM
Author: Appetizing Slippery Becky

Oh yeah, the truth would all come to light after Bill Richardson's trial, just like with Ghislaine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43966094)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Fear-inspiring Boiling Water

"The flaw with nuclear weapons is that once you use them you can no longer threaten to use them."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965870)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:55 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king

great analogy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965883)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:56 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Fear-inspiring Boiling Water

Really?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965888)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:58 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king

Yep.

There's theories actually that "nuclear weapons" dont actually exist and whenever the media talks about nuclear weapons, its actually code for nuclear level blackmail, so need to read between the lines to understand what theyre actually talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965902)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:20 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Fear-inspiring Boiling Water

Your personal take?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43966009)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:29 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king

As far whether nukes actually exist? I have no idea, but these days I dont rule anything out.

As far as comms (coded language) in MSM, those definitely exist and are used extensively by the deepstate, as is symbolism. They love using that.

“Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.”

― Confucius

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43966065)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:55 PM
Author: fighting idiotic stage

This makes zero sense. It requires that countries spend billions on scientific research that they mothball. It requires the the people doing the blackmailing never change or die, such that it become pointless to blackmail them anymore. How do India and Pakistan blackmail each other anyway? How does that work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43967588)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 7:49 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king

"It requires the the people doing the blackmailing never change or die, such that it become pointless to blackmail them anymore."

the people doing the blackmailing are not blackmailable themselves. they are an invisible force behind the scenes, puppetmasters, etc.

the blackmailed class are all top public figures, politicians, some lead scientists, ceo's, many top celebrities, actors, musicians, pundits, top "news" personalities. essentially most "tastemakers", "thought leaders", anyone the public has trust in, who are famous.

denying that blackmail exists is a bit silly. blackmail + false flags have been used as control mechanism since roman empire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968154)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:20 PM
Author: aphrodisiac unholy crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43966015)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:36 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43967512)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:17 PM
Author: Sienna immigrant nursing home

Tell that to the USA and Japan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43970984)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: exciting brindle range keepsake machete

the costs to the "bill richardson" character for taking this gamble would be immense, and one of the other johns would probably kill him if he started talking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965871)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:55 PM
Author: Crusty claret locus

they'd never have to use it. just the threat of doing so would be enough. and what's the guy gonna say "yeah i fucked a 14 year old but this guy epstein set it all up!" it's an incredibly risky bluff to call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965879)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:56 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king

exactly. its mutually assured destruction. it's the only way they could create 100% loyalty from all participants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965892)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:55 PM
Author: Stimulating set

The threat to release the tape to family members would be used to blackmail politicians or suggest they kill themselves. Hoover taped MLK fucking hookers and sent him the tape with a deadline of 34 days (before the Nobel ceremony) to commit suicide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965880)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:58 PM
Author: Stimulating set

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Mlk-uncovered-letter.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965900)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:04 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king

Wow didnt know about this, ty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965934)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:12 PM
Author: Stimulating set

FBI was way worse in the 60s/70s than anything they have done in the past 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965975)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:16 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king

Disagree. They've just devised better ways to keep things under wraps better (blackmail of all congress, key people in govt) and keep anyone from investigating them or the CIA. Also compartmentalizing everything inside, so only people at the very top knew everything going on, basically like ISIS/Alqueda terorrist cells are structured.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43965994)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:21 PM
Author: fighting idiotic stage

They just killed Malcolm X daughter, days after his killer was exonerated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43966017)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:22 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Fear-inspiring Boiling Water

He spelled 'behavior' in the first sentence in a way that made me pronounce it with a French accent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43966026)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:41 PM
Author: Clear very tactful brunch rigpig

yes, he would never use it himself, what's your point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43967535)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 7:32 PM
Author: vigorous goal in life hospital

I'd still like to know what "He belongs to intelligence" meant, and why Acosta was told to go easy on him. Our media seem to be suffering from an acute lack of curiosity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968057)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:10 PM
Author: Adulterous vengeful puppy

Acute lacks of curiosity are the worst kind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968229)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:18 PM
Author: Sienna immigrant nursing home

this part is hardly a mystery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43970987)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:19 PM
Author: vigorous goal in life hospital

The [unnamed federal] prosecutor said that it was clear that someone in Washington [D.C.] was calling the shots on the case.

-Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story, by Julie K. Brown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968277)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:50 PM
Author: vigorous goal in life hospital

Can't you see Bob, that's the beauty of the whole thing! Now let's say they need someone in their pocket. Now it's a pain to have to call up and say alright, we need so many legislators, go out and start setting 'em up. I spend my time setting 'em up beforehand. You see, I keep 'em on ice. And that way when they're needed I just turn to the old stockpile, there they are. Now, some of these guys we may never even use. That's okay! Let 'em sweat. Just last week I got a certain foreign ambassador in a midtown hotel with teen twins, real Amazon types. And the best part is, in this guy's home country that particular crime is punishable by death! I gotta tell ya Bob, I look forward to work when it's so much fun.

nbc.com/the-equalizer/video/the-lock-box/3767771



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968422)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:51 PM
Author: vigorous goal in life hospital

Francis DeGraumont.

I know that name.

He's a vendor. We use him to provide specific services when required.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968430)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:51 PM
Author: vigorous goal in life hospital

I didn't have anything to do with it!

Then who did?

I don't know, I swear. Look, DeGraumont was holding videotapes and pictures, a lot of very graphic material, and a lot of people, any of them has the juice to keep him out.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968435)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:52 PM
Author: vigorous goal in life hospital

He's a vendor, he provides services that certain people feel important. So as long as he has value he will be protected, correct?

Yeah, he's a lucky guy. They'll set him up somewhere else, better than here. They have to. It's like you said, the guy is too good at what he does.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968438)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:55 PM
Author: vigorous goal in life hospital

Btw the CIA are allowed to recruit foreign visitors to the U.S. (whether willingly or not so willingly). They operate out of front offices in commercial office buildings across the U.S. They apparently don't use the federal buildings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968453)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:58 PM
Author: Outnumbered confused bbw

I think the operation, as alleged, would be more subtle than that. If you're a dorky NYC private equity exec, and this fun, charming guy you bump into a random fundraiser invites you on his private jet to his estate to party with hot women, you're going to say yes. And after you attend said party and have sex with some of these women, you're going to be amenable to some usually minor request your new best friend until it snowballs to the point where you're full on conspirators.

I doubt he at any point brought up his actual blackmail, if it exists as alleged, to get what he wanted from his subjects. I think it was mostly just him being a glamorous pimp whose 'payment' are in kind favors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968463)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 9:17 PM
Author: exciting brindle range keepsake machete

agree with the first paragraph.

but it was way too smooth of an operation -- epstein knew what he was doing. and given maxwell's ties, of course it was used for government blackmail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968557)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 1:17 PM
Author: Outnumbered confused bbw

Sure, but I'm saying it wasn't Epstein and Maxwell showing up at some PE CEO's house with DVDs of him with a teenager. It was probably much more subtle and even cordial seeming than that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43971341)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 3:41 PM
Author: exciting brindle range keepsake machete

oh absolutely -- agreed. and maxwell was even posting on sympathetic reddit forums (and i wonder if she pulled anyone off of there who seemed important too lol). my point is just that, assuredly epstein (or his crew) did blackmail one or more people, explicitly. must have

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43972385)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 3:44 PM
Author: sick philosopher-king

not only did she poast, but she had one of the highest karma accounts on reddit and was a powermod.

https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarecity/comments/hnh2ve/umaxwellhill_the_reddit_account_with_the_8th_most/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43972395)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 9:51 PM
Author: ruby swashbuckling water buffalo whorehouse

Isn't it obvious that Ghislaine was Epstein's handler? She is literally scott free due to a convenient mistrial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43968750)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:21 PM
Author: Sienna immigrant nursing home

Bullshit she’s being sentenced in June

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43970997)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 1:04 PM
Author: Appetizing Slippery Becky

Her conviction got thrown out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43971242)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: submissive patrolman

do you know what a cabal is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43970978)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:19 PM
Author: Heady smoky electric furnace

how does it matter? what billionaire wants to be exposed as a child rapist so he can ruin epstein's future blackmail business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#43970988)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: wine market hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#49112643)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Cerebral Coral Bawdyhouse Reading Party

this is the point Mike Benz pushes, but even if it holds water it doesn't mean that Mossad can't gently play extortion years later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2#49112665)