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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Onyx swollen house
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
Alcoholic Well-lubricated Stage
  03/19/18
it's despicable
Onyx swollen house
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
comical lettuce
  03/19/18
lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, ...
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i gave my cousin head
  08/04/25
Trendash for life. What the fuck?
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self-centered histrionic crackhouse
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Supple office
  03/19/18
This literally does not exist in the English language. I hav...
Onyx swollen house
  03/19/18
(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers ...
self-centered histrionic crackhouse
  03/19/18
I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a ...
Onyx swollen house
  03/19/18
Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes
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jet-lagged rebellious jap whorehouse
  03/19/18
Is this flame
Motley beta sound barrier
  03/19/18
Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
claret floppy reading party business firm
  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
Bossy goal in life
  03/19/18
You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
Onyx swollen house
  03/19/18
cr, huge patent prole tell
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  03/19/18
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Onyx swollen house
  03/21/18
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spruce locale knife
  03/19/18
i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
mint liquid oxygen dilemma
  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
Onyx swollen house
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
bearded psychic
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
Onyx swollen house
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
bearded psychic
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
self-centered histrionic crackhouse
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
Salmon pit
  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
Onyx swollen house
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
Motley beta sound barrier
  03/19/18
...
self-centered histrionic crackhouse
  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
Alcoholic Well-lubricated Stage
  03/19/18
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
razzmatazz scarlet abode
  03/19/18
Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
Alcoholic Well-lubricated Stage
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
Onyx swollen house
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
Alcoholic Well-lubricated Stage
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
spruce locale knife
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo
  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
spruce locale knife
  03/19/18
...
Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo
  03/19/18
Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this ...
Salmon pit
  03/19/18
Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but t...
razzmatazz scarlet abode
  03/19/18
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Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo
  03/19/18
nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck abou...
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  03/19/18
*BEEP BEEP BEEP*
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  03/19/18
killself
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  03/20/18
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  03/20/18
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Big cordovan locus boltzmann
  03/20/18
I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and C...
vibrant aggressive half-breed scourge upon the earth
  03/20/18
This is — the credited criticism — so say I.
Crusty slimy sanctuary mediation
  05/12/18
The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the pr...
bearded psychic
  05/12/18
Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell...
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  05/14/18


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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Onyx swollen house

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Alcoholic Well-lubricated Stage

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Onyx swollen house

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: comical lettuce

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: self-centered histrionic crackhouse

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Exhilarant lime hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645246)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: House-broken giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35658763)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: self-centered histrionic crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050284)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#49155425)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Drunken boistinker

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: self-centered histrionic crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641327)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Supple office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641346)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Onyx swollen house

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: self-centered histrionic crackhouse

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641352)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Onyx swollen house

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: spruce locale knife

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641427)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Spectacular Avocado Depressive Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645264)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: marvelous domesticated market personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641354)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: titillating iridescent quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641366)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Spectacular Avocado Depressive Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641386)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: jet-lagged rebellious jap whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641406)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Motley beta sound barrier

Is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: claret floppy reading party business firm

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Bossy goal in life

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Onyx swollen house

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Saffron angry theater love of her life

cr, huge patent prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641765)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Onyx swollen house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35652523)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: spruce locale knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641869)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: mint liquid oxygen dilemma

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Onyx swollen house

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: bearded psychic

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Onyx swollen house

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: bearded psychic

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: self-centered histrionic crackhouse

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Salmon pit

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Onyx swollen house

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Motley beta sound barrier

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: self-centered histrionic crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Alcoholic Well-lubricated Stage

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: razzmatazz scarlet abode

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: Alcoholic Well-lubricated Stage

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Onyx swollen house

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Alcoholic Well-lubricated Stage

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: spruce locale knife

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: spruce locale knife

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641859)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: Salmon pit

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: razzmatazz scarlet abode

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641861)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Point Water Buffalo

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: boyish rehab

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641759)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Amethyst school

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645224)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Appetizing Ape Library

alt 0151

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645233)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Big cordovan locus boltzmann

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: vibrant aggressive half-breed scourge upon the earth

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Crusty slimy sanctuary mediation

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: bearded psychic

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: adventurous pale prole

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050530)