However, once you are in, I don't think they ever kick anyone out so completion is relatively easy-you can skate by on the Harvard name for most of your career, especially in the private sector.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923078)

1/2 of what he said is just plain wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923123)

The programs in the top 10 notorious for cutting people are Penn and Chicago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923224)

This is what their website states:

he General Examination consists of three parts:

>>

First year students are required to take Econ 501 and 502 (micro), Econ 503 and 504 (macro) and Econ 517 and 518 (econometrics). Exams for 501, 503 and 517 are offered in January. They are in May for 502, 504 and 518. The students must pass (C- or better) all six exams and the average number of the numerical grades must average a grade of 2.5 where numerical grades are assigned as follows:

Make-up exams will be offered before the beginning of the Fall semester of the second year.

In the second year, students are required to take field examinations. Each field examination will be associated with a number (in most cases 2) of courses. In addition to field examinations, a student must take and pass (C- or better) 6 courses and achieve a GPA of 2.5. Up to two of the six courses can be taken outside the Department. Each general is written and graded by at least two faculty members. All aspects of the course evaluation are left to the discretion of the instructor.<<<

So where is the actual general exam? Or are they considering the final exam of each class a general? All it says is that you have field exams and that you have to get a certain grade in your courses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923290)

Edit: I see one, in the Business Economics program. I should also mention that like law, competition for these programs has gotten pretty extreme in the last few cycles. Many of these people currently on the job market would have been rejected in this past admission cycle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923305)

The best H students end up going to MIT. The cycle:

H ug -> MIT PhD -> H AP is fairly common

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923434)

Go through the CVs and get back to me. You're wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923457)

I see Cornell(2), Boston College, one Harvard (in business econ), Yale, Princeton, Swarthmore, Williams(2), Ohio State,

1 person from H, and he isn't even in the general econ program.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923521)

phds, in general, are not that hard to get. i don't know about harvard econ, specifically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923239)

1) getting a perfect gre math score is not that hard (and it's not).

2) getting into a phd program is not generally that hard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923299)

i know plenty of mediocre ivy grads at t10 phd programs in various fields. i am obviously not going to name them, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923412)

i don't get why you're so hostile about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923465)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923553)

that said, you're just speculating, but given some of the gre verbal scores i've seen at top-rated econ phd programs, i doubt they'll be killing the lsat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923592)

Neither did I.

"given some of the gre verbal scores i've seen at top-rated econ phd programs, i doubt they'll be killing the lsat."

Okay man, okay. First of all, I'd like to know where you're "seeing" these scores. Does everyone at top-ranked econ programs throw it on their CV? Second, foreigners face challenges on the GRE Verbal that they would not face on the LSAT. Vocabulary deficiencies will be far less of an issue on the LSAT, and to suggest that the average person going into top-rated econ programs (who have completed extensive math pre-reqs, if not majored in math, and have already aced several analysis based courses) can't manage the logic covered on the LSAT is laughable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923855)

Getting into an elite PhD program in virtually any field is more difficult, generally requires more intelligence/aptitude for study, and requires better overall credentials than getting into any law school that is not YLS. Note that this does not mean there aren't people at those places who could get into those PhD programs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923381)

while it may not be objectively easy to get into a decent phd program, it's certainly no more difficult than getting into a top 10 law school or any med school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923445)

You have to have taken all (or most) of the proper pre-requisite courses and received perfect (or near perfect grades), you usually had to have engaged in non-trivial research as an undergrad, and most importantly, you need to have three established and well connected professors in your field vouch for you with letters of reference.

A top 10 PhD requires more focus than a top 10 law school, and one could argue that it is harder to do all of the above than to get a high score on the LSAT, but I personally do not think the two are comparable since the both groups are so distinct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1409819&forum_id=2#15923575)