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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252934) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: obsidian casino new version “I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252952) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Gold adventurous gunner they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252972) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: bronze bbw 260k is a huge salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252984) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: Aromatic Red Base Kitty Cat Cr. Thats city janitor money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253068) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: lascivious crackhouse sweet tailpipe Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252986) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM Author: vigorous range striped hyena How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935785) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: razzmatazz messiness It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252995) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: Gold adventurous gunner they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253002) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231447) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#49178251) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Pink contagious love of her life theater omg 260k where do they get off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253074) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253521) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM Author: Silver turdskin p depressing news going into the weekend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253537) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM Author: Silver turdskin your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254215) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254517) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36256523) |
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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36743851) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: hideous chapel affirmative action yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253827) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: Fragrant stock car hell To be fair,
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933386) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM Author: geriatric crotch persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933826) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM Author: Cyan home hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949789) |
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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43271055) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM Author: glittery business firm masturbator I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933507) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM Author: mewling hall pervert holy shit
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency or at least give us vault range. that is really low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933783) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM Author: Floppy french chef Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933852) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: Floppy french chef That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933882) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM Author: Cobalt spectacular national security agency i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: mentally impaired bawdyhouse They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933851) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM Author: geriatric crotch persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933950) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM Author: glittery business firm masturbator No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935758) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM Author: mentally impaired bawdyhouse Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935989) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM Author: chartreuse elastic band Better partnership odds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935999) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM Author: mentally impaired bawdyhouse That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936016) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM Author: chartreuse elastic band Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936043) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM Author: comical underhanded police squad lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935828) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM Author: hairraiser light feces orchestra pit how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949811) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: fear-inspiring newt that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231452) |
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